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Scalding Coffee posted:They made Survive much easier over time and you are wasting time fighting anything at the start since upgrades are progress gated. Still a lot of fun for a zombie game and the co-op stuff was great too if uneven in dealing out rewards. Yeah, the big thing you want to remember is "beeline forward ASAP for the ability to make useful things", a mistake I also hit and had to be told to remedy. I hate that I have to say this but "if you still can't craft a pot yet, keep going". That was the first gateway for me where it felt like it had finally taken the rails off and let me do my own thing.
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That sounds like a terrible game all around. I know you guys are reminiscing about it, but seriously.
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some of the best games are bad games
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it seems like a generic survival craft em up like rust or valheim or whatever complete with generic zombies to stab those games are really popular still! i don't know why though. they seem pretty uninteresting unless you're doing coop stuff
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the only thing i remember about trying out the beta of metal gear survive is that the menus within menus within menus being a hideous nightmare
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Serephina posted:That sounds like a terrible game all around. I know you guys are reminiscing about it, but seriously. Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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I really liked Survive but it was definitely slow about unlocking things. The 'build fence and poke through it with a spear' is just an effective combo that you get relatively early. Eventually you get rolling and have all kinds of tricks, guns, etc. They saved a lot of stuff (including whole bosses and things) for a sort of 'meta game' after the single player campaign as well. There is also a shitload of amazing end game stuff hidden behind the coop multiplayer (which I actually had fun with honestly).
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Survive also came out after Konami hosed Kojima and was purely a Konami creation.
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Serephina posted:That sounds like a terrible game all around. I know you guys are reminiscing about it, but seriously. its not that hard to enjoy a terrible game. I mean, look at how popular Blizzard games are
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Didn't we agree on not discussing Dark Souls anymore in this thread?
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Triarii posted:Some people tried to paint it as "the entire game is you just building a fence and then poking zombies through it with a pole" but that's something you do in, like, your first fight before you get better weapons. And yes, you unlock more stuff in postgame. The only trouble is that the postgame consists exclusively of lovely base defense missions. e: And it reuses maps from MGS5. Can't have a decent craft'em'up without satisfying exploration. Ugh. I really wanted to like that game and it managed to disappoint in every regard. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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There is 30 guns and bows, with a couple dozen other weapons. Several grenades too. Many other structures you can make to block off, walk on, distract, etc. You also have ways of fighting enemies with button prompts and depending on which enemies you fight, letting you do cool things to them. Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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I'm glad people mentioned Roadwarden, I'm really enjoying it. It release a year ago? I'm surprised I never heard of it until now.
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Has anyone in the world actually played We are the Caretakers? Came out a couple of weeks back, but all the reviews are from its initial Early Access release in 2021. I remember playing its demo in a festival back in the day and finding its afro-futurist ecologist XCOM premise interesting.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:[Yakuza LAD Mahjongg] Hey can I get more info about this? I've grabbed a couple mahjongg apps but none seem like they would let me cheese mahjongg in Yakuza. Maybe I'm just not understanding what this means. Edit: if there's a way to cheat Mahjongg for maximum gains I would love to know 
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the whole 'copy the ai' thing doesn't even make sense since mahjong is a poker type game all about drawing random cards/tiles and trying to make a winning hand??? like the tiles you draw in the mahjong app will obviously not be the same ones that kiryu's opponent draws in yakuza
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:the whole 'copy the ai' thing doesn't even make sense since mahjong is a poker type game all about drawing random cards/tiles and trying to make a winning hand??? Yeah i don't know
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Yeah that strategy only works for chess, not anything that has an element of randomness (manjongg, all card games, etc).
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what is it that supposedly sucks about LAD's mahjongg anyway mahjongg is fun (admittedly i only know riichi, but)
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Ciaphas posted:what is it that supposedly sucks about LAD's mahjongg anyway I can't pull out a gun and shoot my opponent
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Begemot posted:Yeah that strategy only works for chess, not anything that has an element of randomness (manjongg, all card games, etc). although apparently yakuza has a Shogi minigame too, and Shogi is a chess-like boardgame that this would work for
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i mean neither can ichiban, or kiryu for that matter!!
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Yeah I assume they were thinking of the Shogi game.
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Ciaphas posted:what is it that supposedly sucks about LAD's mahjongg anyway The only thing I can think of is that I don't think Yakuza mahjongg has a recommended tile assist, but other than that it is pretty good, in that you can bring up the rules and a list of winning hands at any time. I think the real reason why mahjongg has a bad rap in Yakuza, AND I AM SAYING THIS AS SOMEONE WHO LIKES MAHJONGG AND BASICALLY BRUTE FORCED MY WAY INTO LEARNING IT VIA THE YAKUZA GAMES, is that riichi mahjongg itself is a mess of not easily understood, often contradictory rules. That said, my advice to anyone who wants to learn mahjongg is to never, ever meld (call chi or pon) unless you absolutely know what you are doing. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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i like the windows 95 mahjong where you match the pairs on the pyramids
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Cowcaster posted:i like the windows 95 mahjong where you match the pairs on the pyramids
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mystes posted:Mahjong solitaire isn't actual mahjong.... sure it is, it's right there in the title
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okay, you've got me
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*dusts off hands* another productive conversation in the steam games thread
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Cowcaster posted:i like the windows 95 mahjong where you match the pairs on the pyramids I preferred Chip's Challenge personally.
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Angry at this thread for irresponsibly neglecting to recommend the best Metal Gear games, Syphon Filter and WinBack.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I preferred Chip's Challenge personally. hell yeah that was the first video game I ever played and I was genuinely so happy when we got chip's challenge 2 randomly one day
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Good news nostalgia buffs https://store.steampowered.com/app/346850/Chips_Challenge_1/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/348300/Chips_Challenge_2/
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You can't kill The Final Boss of Metal Gear Survive until you teach it the concept of death.
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Croccers posted:You can't kill The Final Boss of Metal Gear Survive until you teach it the concept of death. Which rules. That scene absolutely rules.
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secretly best girl posted:Which rules. That scene absolutely rules. Now I am curious and have to watch this.
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Portable Ops might be skippable and Peace Walker's kinda hard to come by outside of emulating the PSP version with its weird control scheme (or maybe the PS3 version with the beter one if that's possible?) but they do have very cool main themes both. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr9rMO7GKj4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDajkN_GBC4 Unlucky7 posted:The only thing I can think of is that I don't think Yakuza mahjongg has a recommended tile assist, but other than that it is pretty good, in that you can bring up the rules and a list of winning hands at any time. I'm a little curious which mahjong rules you find contradictory, some of the point calculation stuff can be kinda arcane but it's not super relevant unless you're digging real deep into it. I did also learn mahjong from Yakuza, and ended up liking it enough that I played a whole bunch of it online afterwards. It's fun! Bullshit at times just like most games of that nature, but fun! Shogi though, just the idea of getting legitimately good at it hurts my brain. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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Cowcaster posted:i like the windows 95 mahjong where you match the pairs on the pyramids  I didn’t know there was any other kind…and I have like 4 Mahjong apps (with literal hundreds of “shapes”) on my iPad and PC.
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