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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i don't suppose anybody knows of an lp of last of us 2 that isn't dogshit? i used to be able to rely on the lp subforums to have something at least decent for most any game, but i guess the death of the forums has slightly dampened lp production. after taking a quick peak the options youtube presented me, i'm willing to settle for an lper that isn't actively obnoxious It's not quite an LP but you might try Gamer's Little Playground on youtube. They tend to stitch together the cutscenes with moments of gameplay featuring dialogue so you're not missing any of the story beats while also skipping any moments where a player might get caught dying on a tough section.
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veni veni veni posted:Why don’t you just play it? as far as i know it hasn't been ported to pc Arc Hammer posted:It's not quite an LP but you might try Gamer's Little Playground on youtube. They tend to stitch together the cutscenes with moments of gameplay featuring dialogue so you're not missing any of the story beats while also skipping any moments where a player might get caught dying on a tough section. thanks, i'll check it out GhostofJohnMuir fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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Ah, indeed it has not.
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No iirc the other 200 dogs I killed might have been technically optional but gently caress video game dogs. Real dogs, cool. Don't kill em. Video game dogs, not cool. kill em all.
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I was super impressed by the first episode. I have some detailed thoughts on some things that worked better in the game or better in the show, but that's overwhelmed by a general relief that this adaptation clearly GETS the game and is very likely to do it justice. It's a live action video game adaptation and not only have they NOT completely hosed it up, but it's actually simply good without needing any qualifiers. The adaptation curse has been lifted. I was shocked by how 1:1 some sections were, and enjoyed nerding out at the stuff that was clearly added to bait game-players (the car crash fakeout, the kid dressed a lot like Ellie). Amongst the changes that have been made, most of them make sense and serve to streamline events a bit, or bypass the need for game levels of violence which wouldn't work in this medium. Others might be more consequential (Joel is still in touch with Tommy, Ellie isn't close to Marlene) so I'm looking forward to seeing how all that pans out. Nico Parker nails it as Sarah, and I'm sorry to hear about the toxicity she's had to put up with. The prologue as a whole was very effective at building up a sense of the world going to hell around you. About the casting decisions and race and such, I'll make one comment. I hope it doesn't make me sound like a racist jerk who hates any kind of inclusivity or change. * Joel, Tommy, Maria (apparently), and Sarah were white in the game and are played by actors of different races in the show. * Marlene, Riley, and Henry+Sam were non-white in the game and are played by actors of the same race in the show. Without wanting to draw conclusions from n=8, this suggests to me that HBO might have practiced "colour-blind casting" for white characters, but not for non-white characters. My enjoyment of the show hasn't been affected at all, but if that was their policy, I can understand why some eyebrows could be raised about it.
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Joel and Tommy are the same ethnicity they were in the game: Texan.
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Well, at least Tommy is. Joel is just Pedro Pascal with 15% less accent. I did find it funny that Diego Luna goes ham on the Tommy voice and Pedro Pascal barely even tries to sound like Joel. He plays it well though idgaf.
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Seven Round Things posted:Without wanting to draw conclusions from n=8, this suggests to me that HBO might have practiced "colour-blind casting" for white characters, but not for non-white characters. Eh. As an absolute fan I don't think Naughty Dog games have been meaningfully diverse until uh, maybe Last of Us 2. It's nice to have some more representation.
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Seven Round Things posted:I was super impressed by the first episode. I have some detailed thoughts on some things that worked better in the game or better in the show, but that's overwhelmed by a general relief that this adaptation clearly GETS the game and is very likely to do it justice. Lol. I think it's more who already has an in with HBO. I don't think it's a coincidence Sarah is played by Thandie Newton's daughter, and Pedro and Bella are GoT vets. This just isn't LoU. I notice HBO recycles its actors a lot if they did a good job in a previous project.
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It’s a helluva drive from Austin to Boston. I like the confidence of a show that doesn’t feel the need to explain it though. “Yeah it’s been 20 years, things happened, big whoop wanna fight about it?”
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So far as casting representation goes, I believe it boils down like this. There’s a plethora of Caucasian roles for any archetype imaginable. They’re constantly being cast. If one of those roles is flipped, it’s not a huge loss in representation, there’s plenty more being cast every day. There are far less roles available for many minorities, especially outside of stereotyped archetypes, so when one of those is flipped it is a loss in representation. Casting trends are trying to level the playing field, and so many existing characters are cis white and the industry is so heavily based around adaptation of existing properties that the only way to do that is to change the ethnicity or orientation of some cis caucasian characters. That’s why it’s applauded when a character is flipped toward diversity and derided when a character is whitewashed.
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Bugblatter posted:Wait, killing the dog is optional??? Bear is optional (along with all the others), Alice is mandatory.
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Sentinel Red posted:Bear is optional (along with all the others), Alice is mandatory. Okay, that’s what I thought.
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:Eh. As an absolute fan I don't think Naughty Dog games have been meaningfully diverse until uh, maybe Last of Us 2. It's nice to have some more representation. I would say until Uncharted Lost Legacy but I suppose that's DLC so not as widely known. Still excellent though, Chloe rules.
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Aphex- posted:I would say until Uncharted Lost Legacy but I suppose that's DLC so not as widely known. Still excellent though, Chloe rules. It was a full seperate release but marketed as sort of an Uncharted 4.5 so yeah it's probably not quite as known as the main series games.
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Also Nadine in Uncharted is voiced by a white person lmao
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Escobarbarian posted:Also Nadine in Uncharted is voiced by a white person lmao Chloe also, despite the fact she’s supposed to be indian.
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I also liked in the 60s news talk segment the camera shifts to talking directly to the viewer about how this happened to really hammer it home.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:as far as i know it hasn't been ported to pc its worth buying an old PS4 for
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i don't suppose anybody knows of an lp of last of us 2 that isn't dogshit? i used to be able to rely on the lp subforums to have something at least decent for most any game, but i guess the death of the forums has slightly dampened lp production. after taking a quick peak the options youtube presented me, i'm willing to settle for an lper that isn't actively obnoxious I haven't actually watched her playthrough but Materwelonz has a full blind lp of it here (https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAIcZs9N4170HCnoiTheHyHcWT1PIXoXO). Everything I've seen of hers is very chill and focused on finding all the bits and pieces of lore and really focusing on the story and the characters.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i don't suppose anybody knows of an lp of last of us 2 that isn't dogshit? i used to be able to rely on the lp subforums to have something at least decent for most any game, but i guess the death of the forums has slightly dampened lp production. after taking a quick peak the options youtube presented me, i'm willing to settle for an lper that isn't actively obnoxious I would have said Welonz too but since I was beaten to it check out the playthrough of someone that calls themselves Symbalily also on YouTube. I'm phone posting from work so I'll edit in the link later but it shouldn't be hard to find. She works as a videogame environment artist so she occasionally gives some perspective from that angle and she genuinely appreciated what the story did with it's characters and plot structure.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i don't suppose anybody knows of an lp of last of us 2 that isn't dogshit? i used to be able to rely on the lp subforums to have something at least decent for most any game, but i guess the death of the forums has slightly dampened lp production. after taking a quick peak the options youtube presented me, i'm willing to settle for an lper that isn't actively obnoxious TLOU 2 is sooooo frigging long. I can't imagine watching someone play it and that remaining interesting.
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as someone who couldn't stand tlou2, seeing the left behind references in the pilot makes me feel a lot better about the prospect of a much less clunky storytelling that bridges part 1 and 2 i wonder how left behind will be folded into season 1
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kliras posted:as someone who couldn't stand tlou2, seeing the left behind references in the pilot makes me feel a lot better about the prospect of a much less clunky storytelling that bridges part 1 and 2 In the teaser at the end of the episode it shows at least one thing from it, so they'll do flashbacks for the stuff that takes place before TLOU1.
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Arc Hammer posted:I expect you'll just get the first game for season 1. The content of the episodes have already leaked. Season 1 is 9 episodes and will cover the whole first game with episode 7 being "Left Behind". Fake edit: Here's the episode list justlikedunkirk posted:
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Anonymous Zebra posted:The content of the episodes have already leaked. Season 1 is 9 episodes and will cover the whole first game with episode 7 being "Left Behind". Maybe if the show is a big enough hit then The Last of Us Part 3 will just be season 3 of the show and Druckmann can finally achieve his dream of making TV shows instead of video games.
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I actually have no idea how you adapt TLoU Part 2 into a TV show. A key part of that game's gut punch is that you spend so long physically playing as both women that you can't help but start to shift into their POVs just from familiarity. If HBO really has giant brass balls, they'd cliffhanger season 2 with Abbie having a gun to Ellie in the theatre and then just cold open season 3 and play out the entire Abbie storyline without showing Ellie till the very end.
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Great premier. I hadn’t played TLOU since it launched but I remember enough of the story beats I could tell what was new, changed, and everything different seemed for the better. Standout moment was, as others have said, grandma twitching that was legitimately unnerving. As for spores, the games played fast and loose with the concept so I’m glad the tv series just drops it. Like the spores in the games are either super lethal and you need your mask RIGHT NOW or it’s like “oh there’s some spores behind this door better be careful I guess idk”.
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Arc Hammer posted:Maybe if the show is a big enough hit then The Last of Us Part 3 will just be season 3 of the show and Druckmann can finally achieve his dream of making TV shows instead of video games. in theory, they could do some cool things with it, especially given that druckmann's expressed how much he likes miyazaki's approach to worldbuilding in elden ring, but we'll have to wait and see whether they screw it all up before we get our hopes up
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I actually have no idea how you adapt TLoU Part 2 into a TV show. A key part of that game's gut punch is that you spend so long physically playing as both women that you can't help but start to shift into their POVs just from familiarity. If HBO really has giant brass balls, they'd cliffhanger season 2 with Abbie having a gun to Ellie in the theatre and then just cold open season 3 and play out the entire Abbie storyline without showing Ellie till the very end. I would forgive (almost) all the fuckery that hbo has done if they did this.
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I'm surprised Left Behind is a whole episode. I just don't remember there being that much content. Do we know if all the eps are going to be 90 minutes long?
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Madurai posted:I'm surprised Left Behind is a whole episode. I just don't remember there being that much content. Do we know if all the eps are going to be 90 minutes long? Someone posted that the next episode is 55 minutes and the third one is like 80 again e: the rumors I've been seeing suggest the shortest episode is only like 43 minutes, which makes sense considering some "arcs" of the game are much smaller in scope Arist fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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Left behind could be pretty short, as long as they don’t cut Skeleseer
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Madurai posted:I'm surprised Left Behind is a whole episode. I just don't remember there being that much content. Do we know if all the eps are going to be 90 minutes long? Left Behind would encompass Joel getting rebar'd at the college, Ellie getting him safe, frantically scouring the mall for meds and avoiding cannibals and poo poo while flashbacking to the fateful trip with Riley. It can totally make an normal length episode.
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Madurai posted:I'm surprised Left Behind is a whole episode. I just don't remember there being that much content. Do we know if all the eps are going to be 90 minutes long? Am I the only one who spent like an hour in the halloween shop?
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flashy_mcflash posted:Rewatching the episode and Anna Torv really does seem to be struggling with the accent in a way that I don't remember her ever doing in 5 full seasons of Fringe. I've never seen that happen before with an actor. OIM NOOT A FIIAAHFLYY!!!
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Sierra Nevadan posted:yea mold spores get everywhere all the time. And they can just sit there active
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