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fridge corn posted:It feels like this set has lasted forever. I havent played in like three weeks at least and still another three weeks to go. Was DMU around for this long cuz it sure didnt feel like it You're not wrong, there's a weird asymmetry in set releases where some of them are only the most recent set for two months and change, while others stick around for over three months. Makes some amount of sense in a world where people take a bunch of time off from playing at their LGS over the holiday season, makes way less sense for a digital game. I guess they're still constrained by the people at the print house taking holiday time off, though.
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# ? Jan 17, 2023 23:36 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 11:51 |
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my historic deck got thrown in the trash that's what I get for investing wildcards in an alchemized format
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 00:10 |
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Kashuno posted:my historic deck got thrown in the trash that's what I get for investing wildcards in an alchemized format What happened?
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 00:25 |
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Kashuno posted:my historic deck got thrown in the trash that's what I get for investing wildcards in an alchemized format If it's the goblin trapfinder deck, note that if they had just banned instead of nerfing you'd still only be getting 4 uncommon wildcards back and any rares you had spent to get the deck to actually work you'd still be out. Not an alchemy exclusive problem by any means.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 00:26 |
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yeah that's true, free mana stuff is always a risky investment of resources.fadam posted:What happened? nerfed trapfinder so it reduces cost by 1 instead of 2 so it doesn't go infinite with ominous traveler anymore. Sad times. For anyone playing alchemy formats: https://mtgarena-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/12438205894164-Patch-Notes-2022-22-50 Buffs for spirits and samurai decks
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 00:31 |
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Did a Kaldheim draft because I never got around to do it when it was current, but it's not old enough that I don't know the cards! I think it went pretty well. https://www.17lands.com/draft/cd5bef9432614a1e97c6a386d9369859 Too bad that I didn't get the GB Elf lord. Too good that I got the Planeswalker Elf lord instead, lol. Also, really can't complain about the rares in general. That's my build idea. I don't think going aggro with the four boastelves is going to work, and the Pick doesn't seem necessary either. I'd rather ramp/fix into some fat drops. I didn't get enough Snow together for Blessing to be worth it, I think. The Priests are therefore also not sensible. It's possible that the two Draugr Helmets aren't great, maybe I should take one or two out for the Recluse and the Pick?
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 00:39 |
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Where does "Math is for Blockers" come from?Jolo posted:The final matches for each challenge against people have all been really hard to understand. Played one earlier and the other player had a bunch of Werewolves that triggered a Day/Night status that buffed/debuffed his wolves. They ended up with a ton of creatures on their side and when my turn came, deciding whether to attack with my flyers, which he couldn't do anything about, was this very hard to parse math problem where I knew I needed to hold them back to block because they couldn't finish him off on that turn but deciding where to block and with what was just a nightmare. A lot of good info, I'd just add that different decks have different time commitments. I was running a grindy WG deck that would inflate big creatures and eventually swing for lethal once I had a dozen or so and didn't have to calculate anything. Games would last a while, 10+ minutes. I've switched to a mono-R aggro deck where things are over, good or bad, by turn 4. Games rarely crack 4 minutes, a lot more fun for the same time invested.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 01:30 |
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an aggro player probably coined it
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 01:42 |
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Oh thats what all the cards were after updating. Honestly trapfinder/traveler combo is annoying to play against so I can't say I'm sad to see it nerfed.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 02:02 |
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gently caress, they broke apart the draft token/mastery pass bundle. Guess I'm not spending any money on that poo poo anymore!
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 02:22 |
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Captain Invictus posted:gently caress, they broke apart the draft token/mastery pass bundle. Guess I'm not spending any money on that poo poo anymore! It's such bullshit
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 02:35 |
Captain Invictus posted:gently caress, they broke apart the draft token/mastery pass bundle. Guess I'm not spending any money on that poo poo anymore! wait seriously? why the gently caress would they do that.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 02:55 |
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What are you two upset about? Instead of $50 for mastery pass, 3 draft tokens, and 1 sealed token it's now $40 for mastery pass, 2 draft tokens, and 1 sealed token. A draft sis $7.50 in gems so guess what the price is technically cheaper. Or just buy gems and draft with them.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 02:56 |
It's a very obvious trial balloon for them to split products into ever smaller sizes and gradually raise the prices over time to where you're paying more for fewer things. This time around the token pack is $15 and the Mastery Pass is $25, which is probably a savings compared to the usual $50 for them combined (: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/mtg-arena-announcements-january-16-2023. We won't know for sure until we see what the duration and rewards structure of the Mastery Pass is. Maybe that will be a one time exception for this particular set, but I doubt it and we're all better off not encouraging this trend to continue.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:02 |
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I'd rather have them split it apart even more. Being forced to buy the sealed token was a real drag because sealed doesn't have a very good return on investment overall - the average is decent because going 3-3 gives back 1200 gems and 3 packs plus the 6 you opened, but wins over 3 give very small rewards and wins under 3 have really bad returns. Premier draft is definitely better. Also, I really don't like sealed.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:06 |
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yeah, on first blush this lets people who just want one of the two pieces it's split into pick it up without spending extra money on things they don't want. maybe it'll turn into something bad in the future, who knows!
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:14 |
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Captain Invictus posted:gently caress, they broke apart the draft token/mastery pass bundle. Guess I'm not spending any money on that poo poo anymore! lol good i have enough gems saved up to just get the mastery pass without spending money
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:27 |
I have never seen alchemy spirits or samurai ever. Was someone at wizards sad their pet deck isnt good or somethibg?
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:37 |
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:I have never seen alchemy spirits or samurai ever. Was someone at wizards sad their pet deck isnt good or somethibg? The idea is that they buff some bad/middling cards to see if they get a boost and become playable. I think the philosophy was that they pick cards that are getting a "lot" of play (especially by casuals, a lot of the time tribal decks) and pump them up so that they win a little more? I forget where I read that and might have made it up completely.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:44 |
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:I have never seen alchemy spirits or samurai ever. Was someone at wizards sad their pet deck isnt good or somethibg? all the alchemy buffs have been to archetypes that didn't have decks happening previously, to make them potentially good enough to be run. it'd kind of defeat the point to buff decks and archetypes people were already successfully playing edit: Lone Goat posted:The idea is that they buff some bad/middling cards to see if they get a boost and become playable. I think the philosophy was that they pick cards that are getting a "lot" of play (especially by casuals, a lot of the time tribal decks) and pump them up so that they win a little more? I forget where I read that and might have made it up completely. nah, that's right, part of their metrics are looking at archetypes people tried to make successful that just didn't get there
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 03:45 |
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Ithle01 posted:What are you two upset about? Instead of $50 for mastery pass, 3 draft tokens, and 1 sealed token it's now $40 for mastery pass, 2 draft tokens, and 1 sealed token. A draft sis $7.50 in gems so guess what the price is technically cheaper. Or just buy gems and draft with them.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 04:04 |
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Yeah the prospect of turning bad decks into mediocre decks is like the greatest virtue to the concept of alchemy and if anything they don't do ENOUGH of that.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 04:08 |
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Mat Cauthon posted:It's a very obvious trial balloon for them to split products into ever smaller sizes and gradually raise the prices over time to where you're paying more for fewer things. This time around the token pack is $15 and the Mastery Pass is $25, which is probably a savings compared to the usual $50 for them combined (: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/mtg-arena-announcements-january-16-2023. We won't know for sure until we see what the duration and rewards structure of the Mastery Pass is. The Mastery Pass Details are out now, and March of the Machines releases on Arena on April 18th, so it will be around for 10 weeks.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 04:38 |
edit checked
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 04:41 |
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Mastery pass pack is the $15 one. It’s actually a good deal this time since the mastery pass itself is usually $17 worth of gems. Plus this comes with a pet I personally like, an elesh norn card back, and a copy of the new elesh norn. Seems fine to me.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 05:52 |
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newershadow posted:The Mastery Pass Details are out now, and March of the Machines releases on Arena on April 18th, so it will be around for 10 weeks. Oh yeah it's short-set season too. Cool.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 15:23 |
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Nice payout this week.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 15:55 |
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PhilippAchtel posted:Nice payout this week. aw, that's cute art.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 16:22 |
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I like that CGB is going a month of HBrawl content and it seems to mostly be "Here's how Paradox Engine breaks the game - again."
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:01 |
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As someone that didn't play during the New Phyrexia block and hated poison counters in Kadlheim, how much will I hate this new expansion when I'm getting poisoned by big gently caress off creatures?
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:20 |
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So far relatively few of the Toxic creatures are huge or have Deathtouch, so mostly as long as you have enough blockers you're fine. But then Kaldheim had almost no poison counters so I'm not sure why they deserved that much hate.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:34 |
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SalTheBard posted:As someone that didn't play during the New Phyrexia block and hated poison counters in Kadlheim, how much will I hate this new expansion when I'm getting poisoned by big gently caress off creatures? Decks in ONE look like they will be more likely to kill you through pure damage in most cases before the poison does, unlike infect from NPH which really needed you to go all in to build. The real pain points will probably be 1 (for proliferate) and 3 (for corrupted). If there's a lot of repeatable cheap proliferate, that first counter could be a much bigger deal than the 2-4 damage getting through, and getting Corrupted feels like it is gonna be a big deal. That tapper that reduces its tap ability from 4 to 1 when an opponent is corrupted is one of those commons I think may define the format if getting to 3 counters isn't too tough.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:37 |
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SalTheBard posted:As someone that didn't play during the New Phyrexia block and hated poison counters in Kadlheim, how much will I hate this new expansion when I'm getting poisoned by big gently caress off creatures? You likely don't just instantly lose from two poison counters to a dipshit 2/1 with an X pump spell on it, since Toxic is a fixed number of poison regardless of how much regular (life) damage you'd take. But you might instantly lose to a creature that does a high amount of toxic (we've seen toxic 6 already, though that's on a seven drop) if there's a trample combat trick, so let's say you'll hate it it 8/10.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:39 |
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TBF you'd lose (in limited) to that 7 drop even if it didn't have toxic 6, it's an 8/8 with ward 4 trample and haste that can;t be countered, it probably kills you in two swings even without toxic by the time it's cast. And if someone's playing a 7 drop against you in constructed and you don't already have the game on lock something's gone wrong anyway. There's also a toxic 9 creature which is hilarious but the requirements to animate it from its artifact form are absolutely nonsensically hard to achieve.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:46 |
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thespaceinvader posted:TBF you'd lose (in limited) to that 7 drop even if it didn't have toxic 6, it's an 8/8 with ward 4 trample and haste that can;t be countered, it probably kills you in two swings even without toxic by the time it's cast. I meant the uncommon 5GG 6/7 toxic 6 that can't be blocked by power 2 or less, not the mythic. I assumed we were talking about limited lol
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 21:56 |
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Lone Goat posted:I meant the uncommon 5GG 6/7 toxic 6 that can't be blocked by power 2 or less, not the mythic. I assumed we were talking about limited lol Oh lmao i missed that one. That;s probably also gonna be a problem, though not as much of one as the mythic. Ah i see there's way more on magicspoiler than on scryfall, i should have been looking there. I forgot.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 22:38 |
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thespaceinvader posted:But then Kaldheim had almost no poison counters so I'm not sure why they deserved that much hate. Probably because of Fynn, the Fangbearer most likely. He gives deathtouchers the ability to add poison counters when they deal player damage.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 22:40 |
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Horace Kinch posted:Probably because of Fynn, the Fangbearer most likely. He gives deathtouchers the ability to add poison counters when they deal player damage. Like i said, almost no poison counters. I know where they came from, even in that block in both limited and constructed I almost never saw the Fynn deck and never found it a particularly bad experience when i did.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 22:44 |
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Kaldeheim draft is fun and being phantom means I could go with a berserker deck without any regrets. Bloodsky massacre with a backing of immerstrum predator and tergrid, which without multiple skull raids isn't as back breaking as I would have thought. I did have an opponent name berserker with crippling fear and wiped their own board.
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 23:09 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 11:51 |
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Do we have any idea what the Battle card type is going to be? Or waiting for more spoilers?
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# ? Jan 18, 2023 23:09 |