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People bring up the SNES example a lot but that was before games sold millions of copies and earned hundreds of millions in profit along with all the microtransation and service-oriented stuff so I don't think it's really relevant imo
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Tiny Timbs posted:People bring up the SNES example a lot but that was before games sold millions of copies and earned hundreds of millions in profit along with all the microtransation and service-oriented stuff so I don't think it's really relevant imo Controlling for inflation, video games are literally half as expensive now.
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Jan 18, 2023 17:32
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Controlling for profit margins they should be even cheaper
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Jan 18, 2023 17:33
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so why do they all suck poo poo
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Jan 18, 2023 17:33
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Tiny Timbs posted:Controlling for profit margins they should be even cheaper actually, as the supply of new games is dropping, the price of them will rise, due to the law of supply and demand. people are forecasting the price of PS5 games to hit infinity dollars in 2025
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zoux posted:Controlling for inflation, video games are literally half as expensive now. thankfully wages and wealth have kept up with inflation nicely (this is all a non argument anyway with steam in the picture, thanks benevolent storefront dictators)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:actually, as the supply of new games is dropping, the price of them will rise, due to the law of supply and demand. people are forecasting the price of PS5 games to hit infinity dollars in 2025 Joe Biden is going to make pixel art indie roguelikes illegal and then Sony will really rake it in
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Jan 18, 2023 17:35
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Feels Villeneuve posted:actually, as the supply of new games is dropping, the price of them will rise, due to the law of supply and demand. people are forecasting the price of PS5 games to hit infinity dollars in 2025 Dark Souls 3 will finally go back on sale at 25% off infinity dollars
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Tiny Timbs posted:People bring up the SNES example a lot but that was before games sold millions of copies and earned hundreds of millions in profit along with all the microtransation and service-oriented stuff so I don't think it's really relevant imo Also like look at the price of the console itself. Came with DKC too, sick
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Jan 18, 2023 17:35
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Spacewar! cost like $20k in 1960s dollars so really, we're being spoiled
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Jan 18, 2023 17:36
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victrix posted:thankfully wages and wealth have kept up with inflation nicely Hail Valve MMF Freeway posted:Also like look at the price of the console itself. Came with DKC too, sick Did you guys know any Neo Geo kids growing up? You know, millionaires
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Jan 18, 2023 17:36
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Slimy Hog posted:Yeah, this is likely the new standard for AAA games on release. When was the last bump up to $60? Early 2000's? ps1, ps2 and xbox games mostly cost $50, the bump came with the 360
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Jan 18, 2023 17:36
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if you asked me right now what an average new release videogame costs i would say $50, i feel like $60 is still only for high profile releases. $70 is silly.
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Jan 18, 2023 17:40
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luckily almost every AAA game is godawful garbage so they can charge $100 idc. let the pigs feed at the troth, more room at the table for me
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Jan 18, 2023 17:40
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I don't care cause I'm rich + don't buy a million games a year.
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Jan 18, 2023 17:41
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flipping through the steam store page now and no, they're all just $60 nowadays, huh
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Jan 18, 2023 17:41
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the $70 is necessary to ensure games reliably release with quality and completeness
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Tiny Timbs posted:People bring up the SNES example a lot but that was before games sold millions of copies and earned hundreds of millions in profit along with all the microtransation and service-oriented stuff so I don't think it's really relevant imo
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Jan 18, 2023 17:42
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i think manufacturing costs especially with custom chips in some SNES games was probably a big deal then, it wasnt like how the PS could take advantage on how cheap CDs were to make
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While we're wishing for things that won't ever happen, why not just wish that all games were free? I don't want some motherfucker tripping over a lamp at the beach and wishing that games reflected the cost of production.
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Jan 18, 2023 17:43
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it's hard to directly compare the costs of cartridge games with disc games, since with carts larger file sizes translate directly to increased manufacturing costs for the rom chip. the $40 games in that flier are on 2-4 megabit carts while the $70 games are on 24-32 mbit carts. but with a ps1 game or whatever it costs just as much to press discs with 100mb of data as it does to press them with 650mb
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Jan 18, 2023 17:44
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also i just noticed steam's doing a "chinese new year" sale, which isn't interesting in it of itself, but i thought these days the preferred term was "lunar new year"
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Jan 18, 2023 17:45
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yeah there are different sizes of switch cart too but storage is so cheap these days that i doubt it makes that much of a difference except for when Capcom cheaps out and doesnt pay for a cart that can hold both Resident Evil Origins games on it
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Cowcaster posted:also i just noticed steam's doing a "chinese new year" sale, which isn't interesting in it of itself, but i thought these days the preferred term was "lunar new year" there are tons of cultures with a lunar new year celebration. this is the chinese one, for chinese games
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MMF Freeway posted:How does this franchise have fanboys already??
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Tiny Timbs posted:the $70 is necessary to ensure games reliably release with quality and completeness No more triple-A Early Access Betas, all games shall release feature complete and bug free, if we can but accept $80 as the price to pay
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Weedle posted:there are tons of cultures with a lunar new year celebration. this is the chinese one, for chinese games oic i should've clicked through
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Weedle posted:it's hard to directly compare the costs of cartridge games with disc games, since with carts larger file sizes translate directly to increased manufacturing costs for the rom chip. the $40 games in that flier are on 2-4 megabit carts while the $70 games are on 24-32 mbit carts. but with a ps1 game or whatever it costs just as much to press discs with 100mb of data as it does to press them with 650mb
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https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation
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Jan 18, 2023 17:51
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oh no, i'm not falling for clicking a link with the words "monkey inflation" in it again
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Cowcaster posted:oh no, i'm not falling for clicking a link with the words "monkey inflation" in it again Lol
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Cowcaster posted:oh no, i'm not falling for clicking a link with the words "monkey inflation" in it again oh is the bored ape game on steam?
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KazigluBey posted:No more triple-A Early Access Betas, all games shall release feature complete and bug free, if we can but accept $80 as the price to pay if games start releasing feature complete people would start getting mad about how the game they paid EIGHTY DOLLARS didn't get a SINGLE content update!!
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I mean it's one video game Michael, what could it cost? 10000 dollars?
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Jan 18, 2023 17:54
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Who wants to play an adorable Roomba in puzzle Mario Galaxy? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1550270/Togges/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZQakG85ws
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Mordja posted:Even so, I feel like the launch discounts are usually 5-10% off GMG does similar amounts for unreleased pc games all the time, I got deathloop, death stranding, monster hunter rise, a destiny expansion from them all for about 18% off. I think elden ring was the least discount at 12% off.
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Estel posted:The start is different but after the tutorial levels you continue the normal storyline. Perf, thanks!
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:GMG does similar amounts for unreleased pc games all the time, I got deathloop, death stranding, monster hunter rise, a destiny expansion from them all for about 18% off. I think elden ring was the least discount at 12% off. you have to bear in mind that GMG (or similar) purchases are non-refundable though, you're hard committing to the purchase in exchange for that discount
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great now i own devil daggers and hyper demon and haven't played either and now i gotta eventually buy returnal
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