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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

There's a weird and mostly-online obsession with being very explicit about ones kinks that I'm not entirely sure I understand the reason behind, but yeah that sure is a vocal minority.

when sex positivity goes too far

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BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Feels Villeneuve posted:

when sex positivity goes too far
I'm not convinced it's about sex positivity though, even if I'm sure you can find people who'll use that as an excuse.

If anything, I think it's more that they're also into shame play and haven't understood that "little" part about having explicitly consenting partners, or simply don't understand the notion given the kinds of people that usually turn out to be weirdly into feet and being vocal about it also seem to be incredibly regressive in order aspects of their lives

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Also, for what it's worth, i'm not convinced the straights aren't just as interested in sex as us queers are, they just don't talk openly about it.

Have you ever listened to a straight white guy on a podcast? because wow there's a lot of talk about their boners.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
half the time i see those supermarket magazines targeted for woman theres a thing on the cover about improving your sex life after menopause or some poo poo

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Hel posted:

Have you ever listened to a straight white guy on a podcast? because wow there's a lot of talk about their boners.
For some reason, I try to do my best to avoid that.

Can't think of why that might be, though.

Feels Villeneuve posted:

half the time i see those supermarket magazines targeted for woman theres a thing on the cover about improving your sex life after menopause or some poo poo
Case in point. cf. straights being obsessed with sex - it sells products even outside of the sex work and porn industries.

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

Feels Villeneuve posted:

half the time i see those supermarket magazines targeted for woman theres a thing on the cover about improving your sex life after menopause or some poo poo

Cosmo and stuff like it have been lining checkout line shelves for decades with (really really bad) tips on how to get and give epic orgasms lol

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

If anything, I think it's more that they're also into shame play and haven't understood that "little" part about having explicitly consenting partners, or simply don't understand the notion given the kinds of people that usually turn out to be weirdly into feet and being vocal about it also seem to be incredibly regressive in order aspects of their lives

i think there's a combination of people who are awkward/socially-misadjusted and just overshare (or are 50 year old white dudes who dont give a poo poo about what they post on Facebook) or people who do have a sort of "freak-the-normies-out" attitude about things that sometimes comes with being a homo. idk what the hell being into feet has to do with being regressive or some poo poo though that sounds like a reach friendo

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Here have a link to a video about anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsP3zNJR_6A

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

The foot fetish to CHUD pipeline...

Delphisage
Jul 31, 2022

by the sex ghost

YggiDee posted:

Here have a link to a video about anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsP3zNJR_6A

Really sick of seeing the word "BLIND" in Youtube videos.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
that kind of thing always makes me think of an old Onion article from like 2000

quote:

"After centuries of oppression as an 'invisible' segment of society, gays, emboldened by the 1969 Stonewall uprising, took to the streets in the early '70s with an 'in-your-face' attitude. Confronting the worst prejudices of a world that didn't accept them, they fought back against these prejudices with exaggeration and parody, reclaiming their enemies' worst stereotypes about them and turning them into symbols of gay pride," Thorne said. "Thirty years later, gays have won far greater acceptance in the world at large, but they keep doing this stuff anyway."

"Mostly, I think, because it's really fun," Thorne added.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Feels Villeneuve posted:

i think there's a combination of people who are awkward/socially-misadjusted and just overshare (or are 50 year old white dudes who dont give a poo poo about what they post on Facebook) or people who do have a sort of "freak-the-normies-out" attitude about things that sometimes comes with being a homo. idk what the hell being into feet has to do with being regressive or some poo poo though that sounds like a reach friendo
Yeah, that's a good point.

Delphisage posted:

Really sick of seeing the word "BLIND" in Youtube videos.
What the gently caress are you on about now.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

DaysBefore posted:

The foot fetish to CHUD pipeline...

It's less a pipeline and more of a processing facility.

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack

Feels Villeneuve posted:

i think there's a combination of people who are awkward/socially-misadjusted and just overshare (or are 50 year old white dudes who dont give a poo poo about what they post on Facebook) or people who do have a sort of "freak-the-normies-out" attitude about things that sometimes comes with being a homo. idk what the hell being into feet has to do with being regressive or some poo poo though that sounds like a reach friendo

I think it's this, coupled with the fact that the relative anonymity and lack of immediate, negative feedback to their oversharing provided by the internet that fuels people like this. Dudes who won't shut up about sexy feet on the internet probably really want to also do that in real life, but have figured out that people don't like when they do that without really understanding WHY people don't like when they do that.

It really just reminds me, as a person who's spent the past two decades fascinated by weird internet communities, of how often you'll see posts that amount to "Dear internet, how do I trick people into participating in my fetish?" in niche fetish communities.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



KingKalamari posted:

It really just reminds me, as a person who's spent the past two decades fascinated by weird internet communities, of how often you'll see posts that amount to "Dear internet, how do I trick people into participating in my fetish?" in niche fetish communities.
Which is honestly kind of strange, because it's not like there's a shortage of online communities for people who're into a specific niche of kink.

Like, there's so many of them.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Which is honestly kind of strange, because it's not like there's a shortage of online communities for people who're into a specific niche of kink.

Like, there's so many of them.

right, but people don't want to participate in their kink with the other randos in their little online community. they want the hot person they're crushing on to suddenly embrace whatever thing they've got going on ideally without having to mention their kink in the first place so that they experience no vulnerability whatsoever.

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?


Delphisage posted:

Really sick of seeing the word "BLIND" in Youtube videos.

Pray tell what other term would you prefer for "I went into this knowing nothing with no pre-existing assumptions or expectations" then, we're all ears :v:

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

Mix. posted:

Pray tell what other term would you prefer for "I went into this knowing nothing with no pre-existing assumptions or expectations" then, we're all ears :v:

Since we are already talking about sex, obviously "Virgin" is the better choice.

But really being asked to not use terms for disabilities for stuff like this is a pretty common low effort thing, and spending 10 seconds trying to find a better term for your specific usage isn't really too much to ask. Especially since using blind in this case special isn't really the normal usage of blind as in unable to see, but meaning "No research " or "no exposure" or even ignorant.

For people doing streams / LPs I've seen just using "First playthrough" for roughly the same purpose, which works for that, and while that doesn't really fit for other media, maybe we don't need another word like "content" that covers every medium at once. Words like "first watch" "Zero exposure" or just "fresh" would probably have worked in this case.

Also pretty weird to just go of on someone because they said they were tired of seeing something.

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack
I'm gonna be honest, I'm just sick of "first impressions" and "First playthrough" videos in general so seeing any synonym for that in a video title immediately turns me off. Really I've just never seen the appeal of watching someone react to a thing in real time as entertainment content.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
i need to see people cry irl to the final fantasy 9 ending

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

CelticPredator posted:

Sucks idubbbz almost killed keemstar. wish someone would've come in with a swift blow to end that man from being online ever agian

Does anyone 'kill' anyone? Nerdcity and iDubbz have wrecked Logan Paul, Keemstar, that canadian twit that faked his girlfriend's death and kept invading places at night. Good videos, millions of views.....and the targets just keep on trucking getting richer and more established.

I mean, loving DarkSydePhil is still around and in a better place than he was at 4-5 years back, after being the internet's punching bag (even beyond what his oily little self deserved, to be honest).

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Sephyr posted:

Does anyone 'kill' anyone? Nerdcity and iDubbz have wrecked Logan Paul, Keemstar, that canadian twit that faked his girlfriend's death and kept invading places at night. Good videos, millions of views.....and the targets just keep on trucking getting richer and more established.

I mean, loving DarkSydePhil is still around and in a better place than he was at 4-5 years back, after being the internet's punching bag (even beyond what his oily little self deserved, to be honest).

No, there's no lasting consequences for anything on the internet anymore. Five years ago it was revealed that Doug Walker was the knowing face of a veritable video content sweatshop that abused its talent and protected and promoted multiple known predators and he can still, to this day, poo poo out a terrible video on a Monday morning and get at least 400,000 people to watch it before the week is finished.

The only time these people ever go away is when they die, or willingly chose to stop engaging with the environment.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 18, 2023

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Also, for what it's worth, i'm not convinced the straights aren't just as interested in sex as us queers are, they just don't talk openly about it.
If they weren't, sex work and porn wouldn't be the big industries they are, and I'm not sure the human species would've rounded 8 billion people.
straight people talk all the loving time about sex. the difference is, imo, that their talk takes place largely within the context of the dominant heteronormative culture where the function of talk is primarily about reinforcing that culture and minimising/policing perceptions of the speaker and other's deviation from it, so large portions of it take the form of negatory and derisive speech rather than the affirming and positive speech that queer cultures use in claiming their spaces outside of that cultural paradigm.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
How the gently caress can you come to the conclusion that straight people don't like to talk about sex, on the internet, in 2023? Where the gently caress do you go?

Conservative Evangelicals are the people who aren't interested in talking about that poo poo, and they never have been, and it's never been about straightness but instead about Evangelicals. I suppose normal straight people don't talk openly to strangers about who they wanna gently caress, but that's a normal thing for people to do

How can porn be a giant industry, everyone know the "come play my lord" jokes, everyone know the references about rich furries and porn mods/games, and people somehow come to the conclusion that straight people are uptight about sex? Did you just miss Sex in the City? 50 Shades of Grey? Every goddamn ad aimed at men up until like 4 years ago? There's just no way around this exasperation. Everyone's horny all the time and I have no idea how in the whole world you can think otherwise.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

A more relevant question is why are so many straight people so loving puritanical that they have to make sex into a big deal by repressing it because of some fake moralistic nonsense.

It’s an excuse. Always be offended and always demand concessions for being offended. Whenever the line moves, invent new reasons to be offended.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

who you gonna call...

Macavity!!!

Genthil
Sep 24, 2007


I found out that Hbomberguy appeared on the Mega64 podcast a couple days ago.

https://twitch.tv/videos/1708766933

Edited version's on YouTube if you prefer watching it there.

Babaduck
Apr 30, 2022

Hel posted:

Since we are already talking about sex, obviously "Virgin" is the better choice.

I'm not sure virgin is a huge improvement. It just seems like such a gross word, and I don't think I'm alone in that. As far as a better term, I dunno. Maybe "Introduction" or "First Time"

I feel like the idea of virginity starts to fall apart when you have to really define what constitutes as sex. There are plenty of Christians who do things I would define as sex, but because they don't, it doesn't count as "pre-marital sex."

Babaduck fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jan 18, 2023

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

Genthil posted:

I found out that Hbomberguy appeared on the Mega64 podcast a couple days ago.

https://twitch.tv/videos/1708766933

Edited version's on YouTube if you prefer watching it there.

Yeah that was a fun surprise

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Grondoth posted:

How the gently caress can you come to the conclusion that straight people don't like to talk about sex, on the internet, in 2023? Where the gently caress do you go?

Conservative Evangelicals are the people who aren't interested in talking about that poo poo, and they never have been, and it's never been about straightness but instead about Evangelicals. I suppose normal straight people don't talk openly to strangers about who they wanna gently caress, but that's a normal thing for people to do


The George Carlin 7 Words You Can't Say on TV sketch even made fun of this. He noted how many sitcoms and game shows for grandma loved the "Oh, they're going on their honeymoon *winks at camera, audience goes ooohhhh*" joke. And Carlin pointed out that that joke is literally just "Lol, lotta loving happening" except acceptable for TV without using the naughty words. So nothing new.

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack

Babaduck posted:

I'm not sure virgin is a huge improvement. It just seems like such a gross word, and I don't think I'm alone in that. As far as a better term, I dunno. Maybe "Introduction" or "First Time"

I feel like the idea of virginity starts to fall apart when you have to really define what constitutes as sex. There are plenty of Christians who do things I would define as sex, but because they don't, it doesn't count as "pre-marital sex."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8R5x6Uodqk

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!
I keep thinking about the time Somerton claimed that video games where you have the option of playing as an LGBT or having such a romance was bad representation because it's optional.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Fire island is the better movie anyway
Did he talk about it

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Solitair posted:

I keep thinking about the time Somerton claimed that video games where you have the option of playing as an LGBT or having such a romance was bad representation because it's optional.

I remember when non-gender locked romance stuff became more common, The Discourse was that it was bad because bisexuals are basically straight so it doesn't count as LGBTQ representation. God drat it sucked being bisexual online back then (it still sucks rear end lmao the takes I've seen)

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Sephyr posted:

Does anyone 'kill' anyone? Nerdcity and iDubbz have wrecked Logan Paul, Keemstar, that canadian twit that faked his girlfriend's death and kept invading places at night. Good videos, millions of views.....and the targets just keep on trucking getting richer and more established.

I mean, loving DarkSydePhil is still around and in a better place than he was at 4-5 years back, after being the internet's punching bag (even beyond what his oily little self deserved, to be honest).

Edups mortally wounded leafy until his stupid rear end snuck under the porch to die.

I checked up on the ol chinless wonder, he got arrested lmfao. Dunno for what. He’s out now.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i can sort of get the idea that 'every romanceable option is just bi and theres no real dialog differences' doesnt really represent anyones actual sexuality, and i kind of agree with not liking that kind of thing, but also if you aren't doing anything interesting with it anyway it doesnt really hurt anything

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

I've been torn on how I feel about that tbh. On the one hand it's fine like whatever, but on the other it does kind of take away from characters feeling like real people with real sexualities that go beyond "I want to have sex with the Main Character". I dunno, doesn't really matter and it's not like it's universal across every game ever.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

Fire island is the better movie anyway
Did he talk about it

Only to mention that it was buried by Disney same as they buried Strange World.

Endorph posted:

i can sort of get the idea that 'every romanceable option is just bi and theres no real dialog differences' doesnt really represent anyones actual sexuality, and i kind of agree with not liking that kind of thing, but also if you aren't doing anything interesting with it anyway it doesnt really hurt anything

I am fine with "player sexual" romance options in games, but part of that probably comes from how a lot of the "big" games are completely poo poo at writing those options or will have maybe 1 gay option to 5 straight ones. Like in the Mass Effect games, very little of the dialog changes for a lot of the characters. So your romanceable squad mates will open up and phrase things in a way that implies a chemistry between you and them, up until you hit the point in their dialog trees where it checks if you're Manshep or Femshep and either triggers a kiss scene or the "Error: wrong gender" dialog loop.

But then that series has a bunch of other problems, like how the gay romance branches were cut from 2 after Fox News freaked out at gay kissing in the first game, and the only gay male romance options are in 3. One of which is the most commonly killed-off character in the series, and one of which is.... Cortez.

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

YggiDee posted:

Here have a link to a video about anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsP3zNJR_6A

cool, totallynotmark's one piece series was entertaining so I'll check this one out

in return have a different link to a different video about a different anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Mcr5XVc1o

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BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand

Nuns with Guns posted:

But then that series has a bunch of other problems, like how the gay romance branches were cut from 2 after Fox News freaked out at gay kissing in the first game, and the only gay male romance options are in 3. One of which is the most commonly killed-off character in the series, and one of which is.... Cortez.
How dare you. Cortez is goals! :argh:

Which reminds me that Somerton just flat-out forgot Cortez existed in that vidya games video, which...huh. And then goes on to praise the gay romance in ME: Andromeda because you...get to end up with a baby? I mean, not to knock it, but is that not technically a very heteronormative narrative? Also he likes Sera from Dragon Age which............................huh.

Ahh, I don't like to dogpile on the guy 'cuz it's honestly not that big a deal. ..But it is fun to dogpile on the guy.

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