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mawarannahr posted:What do they do in Florida when tuberculosis rears its head? Is there any legislation there or federally on that point? Blame it on Disney
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Reagan was mostly just incredibly lucky with timing. This is great thanks, always like the informative backstory material like this. I do remember my uncle saying that Reagan ended up getting a lot of the fruit of Carter's labor, so that tracks. It'll be interesting to see how long the Conservative base sticks to their protectionist isolationism once Trump is eventually replaced as the head of the party. And if MAGA candidates will be able to stick around or if MTG and Boebert will go the way of Michelle Bachmann.
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-Blackadder- posted:.... the fact that medium or small long term policy effects / "fruits of labor" takes more than 4 years is why I think some terms should be 5 or 7 years. yes this does mean theres timelines where donnie is in his last 1 or 2 years. and im almost sort of okay with that.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- The Democrats had "lost China" and "lost Vietnam" and Carter had failed to free the Iranian hostages. This also marks a turning point where Reagan can be seen as a bridge from the older, horrible GOP to the even more toxic morass it is these day. Regardless of whether or not Reagan actively colluded with Iranian officials to delay the release so Carter wouldn't reap the electoral benefits of it in 1980 (and for my money the bastard absolutely did), it certainly fed into the subsequent Iran-Contra affair that should by all rights have ended his presidency. He was however able to deflect and "aw shucks I just love Murika so much/doesn't matter if what I said isn't true, in my heart it still is*" his way out full/any responsibility and then get his various convicted cronies off the hook via presidential pardons. In this we can see the W and Trump era rejection of rules-based leadership and the move towards full authoritarianism in the GOP (which yes had always been there, but now was given full license to get away with as much as it could). Real piece of poo poo, that Ronald Reagan. Just an absolute fucker. *only slightly a paraphrase of what he actually said when caught out in a barefaced lie.
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Reagan was a much worse president than Trump, if only because Democrats are extremely unlikely to describe themselves as "Trump Democrats" 30 years hence.
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Trump was less worse than other recent Republican presidents specifically because he both did not start a war, and was too inept to actually do a tremendous amount. Nothing compared to Reagan.
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Apparently, Trump is coming back to Facebook and Twitter. Additionally, Elon is going to war against the federal government who will be weaponized against Twitter, but not Truth Social or Facebook for some reason. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1615775765702004737
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Reagan was a stupider person than Trump, or Bush 2, but he had way more competent people running him. Trump admin was mostly idiots at every level.
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I hope it was worth it, Hochul https://twitter.com/sammellins/status/1615799293381644305?s=46&t=6H6rW8D5MihThOgQHHQ_rg
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I am eager to see how Hakeem Jeffries explains jumping in to lend a hand to such a crap judge. What was he thinking? Crowley really was the heir apparent, Jeffries is the unprepared understudy.
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Jaxyon posted:Reagan was a stupider person than Trump, or Bush 2, but he had way more competent people running him. There's also the still not fully answered question of when Reagan's dementia got advanced enough to genuinely impair his ability to do the job. Certainly at some point in his second term people started noticing things, but was that just a case of it getting to the point his handlers couldn't cover it up/explain it away any longer? Who knows.
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selec posted:I am eager to see how Hakeem Jeffries explains jumping in to lend a hand to such a crap judge. What was he thinking? Crowley really was the heir apparent, Jeffries is the unprepared understudy. Probably a test of whether Hakeem Jeffries has the juice, either from his personal self-confidence or from being lobbied by people behind him. Either way, not a great step in his first year of national leadership, backing an anti-choice pro-racism loser in his backyard.
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Twincityhacker posted:...may I live a long and healthy life so I can see the 50 year reteospective on "wokeness ideology." It's not going to be a surprise, it's like a fifty year retrospective on southern heritage movements or the war on drugs and Welfare Queens or whatever, it'll 100% be "it was racism"
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mawarannahr posted:What do they do in Florida when tuberculosis rears its head? Is there any legislation there or federally on that point? Thank Jesus and Desantis that they have the freedom to die of a preventable disease.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I hope it was worth it, Hochul I wish I had a clearer sense of what Hochul was trying to get through this court admin figure that LaSalle had agreed to support.
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Queering Wheel posted:I just hope that it doesn't eventually work after they push their bullshit hard enough. I'm loving terrified of the wave of anti-LGBTQ+ bills throughout the states. It's only January. oh yeah, red states are gonna get so much worse and awful unfortunatly, but most of this poo poo will die in purple and blue. the suburban moderates tend to be socially progressiveish at least in the sense that they actually know or are someone who is a POC or LGBTQ+ and the Chud stragtigy of "scream slurs and make people hurt themselves while whining about disney movies or whatever" isnt popular. FlamingLiberal posted:I hope it was worth it, Hochul what a loving dumbass. like if your lovely bipartisan choices is that loving hated, pick someone else less lovely instead of digging the loving hindeburg line over it.
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Gerund posted:Probably a test of whether Hakeem Jeffries has the juice, either from his personal self-confidence or from being lobbied by people behind him. Does the House Minority Leader ever have any juice in state matters? Heck, does the Speaker? (Chuck Schumer kept his distance, didn't he?)
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Discendo Vox posted:I wish I had a clearer sense of what Hochul was trying to get through this court admin figure that LaSalle had agreed to support. Probably just inherited Cuomo’s fear of losing next GE to a Republican. Plus once she nominated LsSalle she wouldn’t want to look like she caved.
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OddObserver posted:Does the House Minority Leader ever have any juice in state matters? Heck, does the Speaker? Local campaigns get endorsements from national political figures that happen to be seated next door all the time; Pelosi and Feinstein both endorsed local campaigns in San Francisco almost every year. Hakeem Jeffries supporting an anti-choice pro-racism loser is the only notable difference here.
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Discendo Vox posted:I wish I had a clearer sense of what Hochul was trying to get through this court admin figure that LaSalle had agreed to support. I've tried to research it a bit, but it's mostly petty interpolitical feuding with very little coverage. So far, the big one seems to be this: With tough-on-crime politicians like Eric Adams openly opposing NY's bail reform law, it became a political issue in the election. Hochul (who was supporting the law at the time) somehow ended up accusing judges of failing to keep up with the law and apply it appropriately. She even publicly threatened to create a state-funded training program for cash bail and force judges to attend. NY judges and legal organizations didn't take kindly to this, and the court administrator actually went to the press to openly criticize it. I have no idea who's in the wrong on that, and my gut instinct is that they all are, but it seems like exactly the kind of situation where having a loyalist as court administrator might be helpful.
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Hochul says that the state constitution requires a full Senate vote on nominees and that the state Judiciary committee can't just refuse to hold a vote. She has retained a lawyer to sue and argue the case, but has not actually sued yet. https://twitter.com/luisferre/status/1615816882271002628
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LOL NYS governor going harder on her legislature than Obama did on congress and for a republican judge.
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The New York State Senate is nearly united against the Governor and doing a good thing. It's basically bizzaro 2010.
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I refuse to believe that the George Santos saga is still getting crazier. https://twitter.com/MarisaKabas/status/1615808517176234020 And not only did his mom not die on 9/11 (which was later revised to her being in the towers on 9/11, but not dead), but she wasn't even in the United States. https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1615808958958080022
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mawarannahr posted:What do they do in Florida when tuberculosis rears its head? Is there any legislation there or federally on that point? If tuberculosis pops up they're hosed anyways - the vaccine is only 20% effective. Obvs 20% > 0%, but extremely high breathough rate plus people not continuing the entire course of medication because of price plus medication resistant strains of tuberculsis it would just be a Bad Sceen.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I refuse to believe that the George Santos saga is still getting crazier. At this point if you said his mother was still alive and locked up in a basement dungeon somewhere, I'd believe you.
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cat botherer posted:Trump was less worse than other recent Republican presidents specifically because he both did not start a war, and was too inept to actually do a tremendous amount. Nothing compared to Reagan. I don't believe that this is true; recall that Trump only had 1 term while GWB had 2 terms, the number of opportunities presented to Trump were limited; and in some cases he clearly did things that were just as bad, like allowing Turkey to attack the Kurds and assassinating a top Iranian general, and of course reversing course on the Obama era policy to normalize relations with Cuba. You don't "have to hand it to him" to Trump just because the rocks he threw only lightly scratched the glass.
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Just a reminder too that one month into the Biden Presidency CNN was giving DeSantis celebratory blow jobs about how well he handled Florida's pandemic response and how radically different it was than everywhere else without mentioning that he had to silence his scientists and misreported data to make things look better than they were.Raenir Salazar posted:I don't believe that this is true; recall that Trump only had 1 term while GWB had 2 terms, the number of opportunities presented to Trump were limited; and in some cases he clearly did things that were just as bad, like allowing Turkey to attack the Kurds and assassinating a top Iranian general, and of course reversing course on the Obama era policy to normalize relations with Cuba. Don't forget pulled out of a nuclear treaty with Iran for ~rEaSoNs~.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I refuse to believe that the George Santos saga is still getting crazier. Did you cover this yet https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1615821355521277956
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I refuse to believe that the George Santos saga is still getting crazier. I’m assuming that as long as he didn’t read stories to children at libraries, Republicans are still just nodding along.
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Twincityhacker posted:If tuberculosis pops up they're hosed anyways - the vaccine is only 20% effective. Obvs 20% > 0%, but extremely high breathough rate plus people not continuing the entire course of medication because of price plus medication resistant strains of tuberculsis it would just be a Bad Sceen. Is that BCG, or is there something newer?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Hochul says that the state constitution requires a full Senate vote on nominees and that the state Judiciary committee can't just refuse to hold a vote. i hate to be that person but if she wants some republican so bad, why doesnt she just pick another one, some boring lawful evil dickhead, why die for this rear end in a top hat. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The New York State Senate is nearly united against the Governor and doing a good thing. It's basically bizzaro 2010. is it because they are realizing their leadership screwed them in the midterms?
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Is Santos actually gay or not? I thought it previously came up that he was gay, but like with everything else that may not be accurate.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i hate to be that person but if she wants some republican so bad, why doesnt she just pick another one, some boring lawful evil dickhead, why die for this rear end in a top hat. He's the only one picked by the nominating committee who'll support her choice for court administaror.
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Paracaidas posted:Kuttner (Prospect, Economic Policy Institute, assorted punditry) has thoughts about debt ceiling options that aren't minting the big coin. Yeah, this is the important part here. The folks who replied that are focusing on the hypocrisy argument are missing the real issue at hand.
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OddObserver posted:Is that BCG, or is there something newer? This is BCG. I missread an earlier explination So while it's 20% effective from preventing infection the bacteria, but prevents 50% from developing full blown tuberculosis.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Is Santos actually gay or not? I thought it previously came up that he was gay, but like with everything else that may not be accurate. At this point, who knows? He's shown himself to be compartmentalized and mercenary to be gay for a payday, whatever he defines as a gain in that scenario, because, you know, he's probably a serial killer or some poo poo 
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FlamingLiberal posted:Is Santos actually gay or not? I thought it previously came up that he was gay, but like with everything else that may not be accurate. we can be reasonably certain that he has had sex with men whether that means he's gay or bi or whatever is as much a mystery as anything else about his real identity
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mawarannahr posted:What do they do in Florida when tuberculosis rears its head? Is there any legislation there or federally on that point? Of course the Democrats are against a core tenant of Capitalism. Typical Socialist idiocy. First the come for consumption, then they come for your paycheck.
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