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I remember hating Prince Iaukea, especially when they did The Artist Formerly Known As gimmick. He struck me as the least necessary wrestler to ever hold a title.
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Wasn't King Curtis the guy that bladed when the cops came to bust up his unlicensed surf shop?
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TheKingslayer posted:Wasn't King Curtis the guy that bladed when the cops came to bust up his unlicensed surf shop? he probably didnt have to, he just willed it and the blood came 
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I know he worked all over the world - I know someone who's grandfather wrestled him in Rotorua in the 60s or 70s - but apparently he also wrestled for the other World Championship Wrestling in Australia - even won a bunch of their titles too. I wonder how many people on the WCW roster wrestled at an Australian WCW show at one point or another as well.
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Just saw this today: https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1614950473362190336 Had no idea that Dragon Kid was in WCW, thought he started with Dragon Gate a couple years later.
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Germansimp posted:Just saw this today: So Dragon Kid started training in 1994 with FMW, but Onita thought he was too small so he was only ever a referee there. When Ultimo Dragon opened his Toryumon gym in Mexico DK was referred to it by Jinsei Shinzaki, as Ultimo had no size restrictions. That started in '97, & so the first matches of the Toryumon first class were in Mexico. Dragon didn't actually start working in Japan regularly until Toryumon Japan opened in 1999. And yes, that entire first class of Ultimo students appeared in WCW, CIMA, Don Fujii, Suwa, Magnum Tokyo, Suwa & Dragon Kid. Public Enemy vs Don Fujii & Suwa is a match that happened on a 1998 WCW Saturday Night. Pretty sure it was all just Ultimo's hustling that got them those gigs, because they were all green as hell.
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Ultimo Dragon: LET'S ALL GO ON EXCURSION TO WCW TOGETHER! His Class: um...yay. Magnum Tokyo and CIMA seemed to get a lot of WCW work in particular. CIMA was just used as a jobber (as Shima(?) Nobunaga), Magnum Tokyo (as Tokyo Magnum) got to hang out with Disco Inferno and Alex Wright in an angle. CIMA probably got the better end of the deal.
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Are there any good videos or podcasts that rundown The Great American Bash 1986?
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forkboy84 posted:So Dragon Kid started training in 1994 with FMW, but Onita thought he was too small so he was only ever a referee there. When Ultimo Dragon opened his Toryumon gym in Mexico DK was referred to it by Jinsei Shinzaki, as Ultimo had no size restrictions. That started in '97, & so the first matches of the Toryumon first class were in Mexico. Dragon didn't actually start working in Japan regularly until Toryumon Japan opened in 1999. And yes, that entire first class of Ultimo students appeared in WCW, CIMA, Don Fujii, Suwa, Magnum Tokyo, Suwa & Dragon Kid. Public Enemy vs Don Fujii & Suwa is a match that happened on a 1998 WCW Saturday Night. Pretty sure it was all just Ultimo's hustling that got them those gigs, because they were all green as hell. It eventually became a tradition for Toryumon graduates to train and debut in Mexico before showing up in Japan. At one point, they had a training school in Kobe, from where those deemed worthy were sent out to be further improved upon in Mexico before debuting and gaining experience. ChrisBTY posted:Ultimo Dragon: LET'S ALL GO ON EXCURSION TO WCW TOGETHER! Fun sidenote, Disco Inferno was booked in 2002 to wrestle on the biggest show Toryumon had ever held at that point (Disco, Latin Lover & Magnum Tokyo vs Italian Connection). Alex Wright was on hiatus at that point, no clue if they tried to book him for the Boogie Knights reunion. Magnum also used the Alex Wright dance move as part of his entrance choreography as a tribute to Alex.
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Mr Hootington posted:Are there any good videos or podcasts that rundown The Great American Bash 1986? If you can handle listening to Conrad, one of his many podcasts is "What happened when" with Tony Schiavone and they do shows about basically all the old stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9BDc2nyjA
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MrBling posted:If you can handle listening to Conrad, one of his many podcasts is "What happened when" with Tony Schiavone and they do shows about basically all the old stuff. Yeah I tried watching the July 5th, 1986 Bash video and it was Conrad and Terry doing MST3K over still pictures. It was bad.
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Do people really dislike Conrad that much? Admittedly, I only listen to STW but I've never really understood the hate.
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sweet_jones posted:Do people really dislike Conrad that much? Admittedly, I only listen to STW but I've never really understood the hate. He's the carniest person on the planet, sleazy on a level even some carny fans can't get into. But the true carny respecters join the Conradisson.
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sweet_jones posted:Do people really dislike Conrad that much? Admittedly, I only listen to STW but I've never really understood the hate. I tried listening to that podcast with Tony and it was an exercise in futility. It was like 30 minutes of nonstop ads at the top of the show and I just couldn’t stand hearing him ramble on and on. Nothing against him personally, but he stinks at podcasting from what I’ve listened to.
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MassRafTer posted:He's the carniest person on the planet, sleazy on a level even some carny fans can't get into. But the true carny respecters join the Conradisson. I remember somebody saying that they saw Conrad holding court in the crowd with a little circle of admirers at one of the Starrcasts and never looked at the actual matches once. I genuinely don't think he has actual opinions on wrestling beyond whatever gets the other guy on his podcast to talk more. It's just a successful hustle alongside whatever that scam is that lets people pay off their houses sooner or whatever.
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Dawgstar posted:I remember somebody saying that they saw Conrad holding court in the crowd with a little circle of admirers at one of the Starrcasts and never looked at the actual matches once. I genuinely don't think he has actual opinions on wrestling beyond whatever gets the other guy on his podcast to talk more. It's just a successful hustle alongside whatever that scam is that lets people pay off their houses sooner or whatever. He's a guy who loved wrestling in a certain period and maybe likes certain things now (I am willing to believe this since he's trying the weird Oceania promotion) but isn't a hardcore fan of anything. But he's just a deeply sleazy guy.
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Dawgstar posted:I remember somebody saying that they saw Conrad holding court in the crowd with a little circle of admirers at one of the Starrcasts and never looked at the actual matches once. I genuinely don't think he has actual opinions on wrestling beyond whatever gets the other guy on his podcast to talk more. It's just a successful hustle alongside whatever that scam is that lets people pay off their houses sooner or whatever. its works all the way down brother
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sweet_jones posted:Do people really dislike Conrad that much? Admittedly, I only listen to STW but I've never really understood the hate. he's good at getting his cohosts to talk about interesting things but the other 75% of time his mouth is open it's an incredibly obese man telling you what his favorite euphemism is for breast implants is in between sales pitches for boner pills (if you thought what he calls breast implants was funny, you're in for a real treat here) and financial schemes little munchkin fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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I've never heard of this person, but it sounds like a default format for radio shows (and now podcasts) that I hate. You have a guy who knows stuff about the topic of the show, and they're accompanied by a terrible comedian who punctuates everything with a middle-school sex joke.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGO1rLzIGhE This really hits home just how crowded the nWo was.
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Was everyone from WWF automatically debuted as part of the nWo for the first year or so?
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One of the interesting things about the nWo when they arrived was that they were so bad that even the other heel groups disliked them. They would get in fights with the Dungeon of Doom or whoever else there was (the 4 Horsemen of course were in that position of "technically heels but everyone loves them") and heels would cut promos against the nWo. A couple of years later, though, basically everyone who is a heel is in the nWo so they're just The Faction The Bad Guys Are In.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Was everyone from WWF automatically debuted as part of the nWo for the first year or so? double j wasnt at first
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The commentary assumed Jeff Jarrett was the newest NWO member when he debuted but it wasn't him. The swerve was it was either The Giant or Syxx instead, I forget which. Curt Hennig joined up and teamed with DDP before turning heel on him, but didn't join the NWO until the autumn after betraying the Horsemen. Hennig also betrayed the Wolfpac for Hollywood in 98. I remember a great promo of him and Rude laughing at Hennig's chronic backstabbing disorder and that Rude was the only person Hennig would never betray. They both shared an uneasy suspicious look after. Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Ted Dibiase, Vincent, Syxx, Brian Adams, Rick Rude all debuted in WCW as NWO members. Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Ray Traylor, Michael Wallstreet, The Nasty Boys, Curt Hennig, Scott Steiner, The Disciple, Lex Luger, Bret Hart, Jeff Jarrett, and The Harris Twins were all established in WCW before jumping to the NWO.
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Thank you, I appreciate it. Also, before watching that video I was somehow unaware that they were actually called the nWo B-Team on screen. I thought it was just the way fans, etc had decided to refer to them over the years.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Thank you, I appreciate it. My memories shot, but I think tbe official nWo B Team thing was post Hogan/Nash split.
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Jeff Jarrett was a horseman. Jeff Jarrett was never a horseman. The Jeff Jarrett Paradox
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Ray Traylor, Michael Wallstreet, The Nasty Boys, Curt Hennig, Scott Steiner, The Disciple, Lex Luger, Bret Hart, Jeff Jarrett, and The Harris Twins were all established in WCW before jumping to the NWO.
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syzpid posted:My memories shot, but I think tbe official nWo B Team thing was post Hogan/Nash split. The nWo B Team existed after the Hogan/Nash Fingerpoke reunion. The stars got to be in the nWo Elite while the rest had to be in the black and white.
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Did The B-Team exist for the sake of the optics of having Stevie Ray lead a group during their racism suit? (Launching Terry Taylor into the sun would have been better but what can ya do?)
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NorgLyle posted:I have absolutely no memory of Ray Traylor in the NWO. I am sure that he was since he was a former WWF guy who was around and didn't leave back to the fed until after the NWO had been around for a while but it is so strange to me trying to picture him in one of those shirts.  The hair didn't help.
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Didn't that lead eventually to his 'MAH NAME IS RAY TRAYLOR' promo and then he sort of puttered around for a while before going back to WWE with his iconic riot cop look?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
God was the riot cop Boss Man look so much better for him. Ray Traylor should never be in leather pants.
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They should have brought him back as Big Bubba Rogers
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Mr Hootington posted:They should have brought him back as Big Bubba Rogers They did according to wikipedia quote:World Championship Wrestling (1993–1998)
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More like Big CROSS Man am I right
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Tato posted:Jeff Jarrett was a horseman. I think he was an "affiliate," but not actually a member. Would've made a better Horseman than loving Paul Roma, though.
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Was Zbyszko on commentary during Roma's in-ring career? And if so, did he refer to him as Paul Aroma? Did he say things like, "Ya know Tony, somebody oughta throw TOMATOES at this guy!"?
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