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Open Source Idiom posted:Yo, what's the last anyone's heard about the upcoming seasons of: WIth the Superman show, I follow Jake Wyatt on twitter (he's co-exec producer) and it seems to be moving along fine. A bunch of storyboarders were saying they wrapped up their parts on it recently so it's in the midst of animation production I'd guess
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I wasn’t even aware they were doing a new Adventure Time show, do we have any details yet? Still no news on Hilda though. I’m curious what they’re going to do with it though since as far as I know there’s no more comics to adapt and a large portion of the show’s main conflict was resolved in the movie
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Also apparently Biker Mice From Mars is coming back at some point: https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/biker-mice-from-mars-reboot-returning-new-show-toys/
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My only guess as to where Hilda will go is that Hilda's mom might start dating.Larryb posted:(I notice they’re also keeping Fifi around despite her Looney Tunes counterpart Pepe basically being retired at this point, but then again I don’t remember the Tiny Toons version being quite as extreme in regards to her affection towards the opposite sex) She's less extreme, but also the genderswap really does change a lot of the dynamic. That and the fact that Tiny Toons relied on having an ensemble cast, so Fifi was important as one of Babs's friends, especially when they needed a counterpart to the trio of Buster, Plucky, and Hamton. The fact that she's in the back might mean that she'll have a reduced role as well. A lot of 90s cartoons, especially the attempts at doing a revival of the animation traditions of old theatrical shorts, were very weird about sex, since they were nominally targeted at children, but borrowing heavily from cartoons that used humor more targeted at adults, so there's a lot of characters being debilitatingly aroused or crazed with lust.
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Larryb posted:Also apparently Biker Mice From Mars is coming back at some point: I see we've reached "gently caress It, Just Reboot Everything" mode in regards to the late 80s and early 90s. Also this article is how I learned Ian Ziering starred in Biker Mice From Mars. What the gently caress
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Fifi is interesting in that regard, probably helps that while they initially had her often pursue Furball in an imitation of the Pepe/Penelope relationship but that soon got discarded(the writers seemed to prefer treating Furball as a regular cat than as a proper talking Toon character) and while she would still sometimes pursue other one offs they mostly settled on her and Hampton as a mostly consensual couple Also hopefully by the time the final product reaches us they'll have dropped the idea of having Babs and Buster be siblings in this new version, it's just going to make things super awkward and indeed already has
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Also I guess we'll know we've TRULY hit the "gently caress it, remake everything" event horizon when someone tries to remake COPS in this current political climate. Who amongst us has the balls to try and reboot America's #1 most badass copaganda 80s cartoon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4YFDSDW4w
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VibrantPareidolia posted:WIth the Superman show, I follow Jake Wyatt on twitter (he's co-exec producer) and it seems to be moving along fine. A bunch of storyboarders were saying they wrapped up their parts on it recently so it's in the midst of animation production I'd guess I was on layout and the last of design just rolled off last week. Animation is coming back from overseas, the theme song is fully animated, everything is fully boarded and designed for the first two seasons. When the WB axe murders were going on, we were all pretty spooked and our security was brought up in meetings. Jake said that it was likely we'd be okay since we were a VERY cheap production tied to a very big brand. It looks like that held true as there's still discussion on further seasons. I know Jake was being honest on his end at least, because that lad is absolutely poo poo at lying. I'm glad to say that despite the shoestring budget, it was looking really good. Everyone was really into the project and most of us had worked together before.
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nine-gear crow posted:Also I guess we'll know we've TRULY hit the "gently caress it, remake everything" event horizon when someone tries to remake COPS in this current political climate. Who amongst us has the balls to try and reboot America's #1 most badass copaganda 80s cartoon? People still like cop shows.
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nine-gear crow posted:I see we've reached "gently caress It, Just Reboot Everything" mode in regards to the late 80s and early 90s. We reached that during the early '90s
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IShallRiseAgain posted:People still like cop shows. Revival of Filmore when?
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Filmore reboot where Filmore discovers the terrors of the school-to-prison pipeline and turns in his badge
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Filmore was so dumb, I loved that stupid show
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SlothfulCobra posted:The picture in the article also is interesting since it shows some returning characters, a couple of which have had redesigns. There’s an episode that starts with Buster introducing Bunny Day or some such, and Sweetie interrupts him, saying, “Everything is always Rabbit This and Bunny That! Why can’t I have an episode?” And then it’s a whole episode of Sweetie, with Tweety showing up as a mentor in one. It wasn’t the greatest episode, but it did make me wonder why they never bothered developing anyone besides Plucky and the rabbits when they knew that was an issue. Take Sneezer. He sneezes a lot. But he’s also clearly a riff on Chuck Jones’ Sniffles the Mouse, whose last appearance was in 1946 when the show went on the air. Sniffles had a cold in his first appearance but otherwise his name is a just a weird artifact. He’s turned up a few times since Tiny Toons ended - he somehow made the team in Space Jam - but it’s still not clear if Sniffles and Sneezer know each other or if the old mouse teaches the young one to sneeze or be cloying or anything like that. Could they be funny together? I don’t know, here’s Elmira squashing the cat again.
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I remember Hampton and Montana Max getting a decent amount of focus as well
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Montana was the antagonist. Closest they had, at least. Gogo Dodo got a few episodes.
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One thing I am impressed by is how obscure some of the stuff Tiny Toons pulled from was (Gogo Dodo and the aforementioned Sniffles the Mouse only appeared in one Looney Tunes short each to my knowledge and Shirley the Loon I think was loosely based on a minor love interest of Daffy’s that appeared in a few shorts) Also at times it felt like the staff was more writing for themselves than they were for the kids watching (there was one episode that consisted entirely of 70s/80s songs and another one dedicated exclusively to the band They Might Be Giants) Larryb fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jan 20, 2023 |
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The baby plucky episode was quoted a ton when I was a kid, and adults around me found it charming because, well, small kids do that. They get obsessed with flushing stuff.
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Potty go down the hoooooooleLarryb posted:One thing I am impressed by is how obscure some of the stuff Tiny Toons pulled from was There was a reverence for animation that was nice. A few times the concept of a Looney tunes school was put to good use (Buster ripping off the Bugs dance). I feel like the Whackyland stuff could have been an excuse to get that minimalist 60s background stuff in more. Not that it turned out that way. For the second, hell yes it's great when writers do that. And it's not like the original Merrie Melodies shorts didn't pull from poo poo like golden age Hollywood, opera, etc. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jan 20, 2023 |
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Larryb posted:Also at times it felt like the staff was more writing for themselves than they were for the kids watching (there was one episode that consisted entirely of 70s/80s songs and another one dedicated exclusively to the band They Might Be Giants)
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Yeah those kind of episodes were fun (and as mentioned it’s not like Looney Tunes didn’t do stuff like that too), Warner Bros did that with a lot of its shows come to think of it (there’s an entire Pinky & The Brain segment that’s literally just a sendup of an old Orson Wells commercial)Xelkelvos posted:I'm fairly certain you're misremembering those episodes. Those were riffs on MTV iirc and at least one of them was a countdown style best videos. They were all mixed and there were only 2 TMBG ones: Particle Man and Istanbul. Ah ok, I thought I remembered an entire episode that was basically a big TMBG tribute but I could be wrong
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Larryb posted:One thing I am impressed by is how obscure some of the stuff Tiny Toons pulled from was (Gogo Dodo and the aforementioned Sniffles the Mouse only appeared in one Looney Tunes short each to my knowledge and Shirley the Loon I think was loosely based on a minor love interest of Daffy’s that appeared in a few shorts) Sniffles was in 12 shorts, he just wasn't any good. From that awkward period when Looney Tunes was still looking for more main characters because they weren't satisfied with. Gogo I think was the character who probably shows up way more in Tiny Toons than his predecessor. Furball is probably the one who is the most different from his Looney Tunes version, since the writers apparently wanted to do cute sad animal shorts, probably followed by the not-foghorn leghorn because there was no modern equivalent of copying a 1940s radio show stereotype that was already old when Foghorn Leghorn was created. Mary Melody was a character. Fun idea, never really became much more than a background character. Maybe the only black character in the Looney Tunes "canon" that hasn't had the cartoons they appeared in banned.
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Was Babs supposed to be based on anyone in particular for that matter? Tiny Toons predates Space Jam and the only other female rabbit I can think of was a girlfriend of Bugs’ that only appeared in a few games and maybe a comic or two. I’m guessing the Bosco and Honey shorts though I’ve never actually seen any of them myself and until recently just assumed Tiny Toons made them up for that particular episode. Speaking of, I’m curious if Lola’s going to show up in the reboot at all Larryb fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jan 20, 2023 |
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Larryb posted:Was Babs supposed to be based on anyone in particular for that matter? Tiny Toons predates Space Jam and the only other female rabbit I can think of was a girlfriend of Bugs’ that only appeared in a few games and maybe a comic or two. I doubt much thought went into Babs beyond "girl kid Bugs Bunny to balance out boy kid Bugs Bunny". Otherwise yeah she's the lone case where she predates her actual Loony Tunes counterpart.
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Babs I think is very clearly derived from Bugs Bunny just like Buster is, just Tiny Toons with its ensemble cast wanted some kind of equal distribution of genders, which is also why there's so many characters genderswitched from their originals. Jellystone did something similar when it wanted to use a bunch of Hanna Barbera characters, but so many of the main characters from old HB shows are dudes so they randomly made a bunch of them girls. Both Buster and Babs borrow heavily from Bugs's bits. I was more surprised when I saw people say that Daffy actually had some kind of female counterpart that Shirley McLoon draws from, since otherwise she's mostly just a weird dated celebrity reference.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I always felt bad for Furball cause he was just a cat. It's funny how he's visually based more on Sylvester and various other talking cat characters but ended up with a personality closer to the more cute & animalistic cat characters like Penelope or Pussyfoot
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Das Boo posted:I was on layout and the last of design just rolled off last week. Animation is coming back from overseas, the theme song is fully animated, everything is fully boarded and designed for the first two seasons. This rules. I'll definitely check it out when it airs!
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Larryb posted:Yeah those kind of episodes were fun (and as mentioned it’s not like Looney Tunes didn’t do stuff like that too), Warner Bros did that with a lot of its shows come to think of it (there’s an entire Pinky & The Brain segment that’s literally just a sendup of an old Orson Wells commercial) This is 90% of Animaniacs. There's an entire segment where the joke is the Warners are being harassed to take a survey on whether they like beans and George Wendt. The kids, they love George Wendt.
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Das Boo posted:I hope it's The Loony Toons Show Lola. The other one is boring at best so I hope so too
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Really enjoying Mystery Incorporated. It's got an amazing deadpan sense of humour, delivering absolute daffy cartoon logic like "i would sell the super helium to the Australians for their massive zeppelin fleet" with an exaggerate ernestness. There's a tendency towards minor transgressions that I enjoy too, like the season ending joke about Scooby being sent to "live on a farm", or the HP Lovecraft clone being unable to write for "urban" youth, or the epicly overplayed romance between Fred and Daphne. Every character is appealingly dumb, except Velma who's a low key monster and control freak. I love Fred's belief that they'll all get married and live together forever. I can sort of see where the childishness in the The art if gorgeous too, and the scripts are just such obvious labours of love. I swear every episode hss a cheesy B movie shout out to the poo poo of yesteryear. The mysteries are, like, whatever, fine. The reveals are obviously just a formality to get to the dumbest and most convoluted explanation, or to reveal that people of utterly impossible shapes or sizes somehow morphed into wolf men outfits. Oldmate OP from the other day was right, I just didn't get what this show was doing at all. I love how they hold back some of the cliches of the original show and then play them absolutely straight in the finale, does a good job of feeling like a really loving pastiche of the series. I'm glad I stuck with the show now.
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Larryb posted:Was Babs supposed to be based on anyone in particular for that matter? Tiny Toons predates Space Jam and the only other female rabbit I can think of was a girlfriend of Bugs’ that only appeared in a few games and maybe a comic or two. Both Bugs and Daffy got male and female kids to fill their roles. Buster and Babs are pretty similar, Plucky is a Daffy clone, Shirley is based on Shirley MacLaine. There were odd female rabbits occasionally in the old shorts, and ducks too, they just never developed them. The longest lived was Millicent the Siberian rabbit who was nothing like Babs. SlothfulCobra posted:Sniffles was in 12 shorts, he just wasn't any good. From that awkward period when Looney Tunes was still looking for more main characters because they weren't satisfied with. I like the Sniffles shorts, though some can be dull. I really prefer the experimental 30s and 40s shorts to the “classic” era of the 50s. Roadrunner cartoons are too repetitive.
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Perfectly good Silly Symphony clones. Nothing bad, won’t stick with you. They used to show the on Nick around 1990. Finding Buddy is the real challenge. I don’t think I’ve actually seen one.
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Larryb posted:On that note, how were the Bosco and Honey shorts? Tiny Toons is literally the only reason I know they exist SlothfulCobra posted:I was more surprised when I saw people say that Daffy actually had some kind of female counterpart that Shirley McLoon draws from, since otherwise she's mostly just a weird dated celebrity reference.
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Larryb posted:On that note, how were the Bosco and Honey shorts? Tiny Toons is literally the only reason I know they exist Not very good. Bosko's main gimmick earlier on was that they paid extra attention to syncing with the audio, which left the cartoons pretty stiff and not very much happening. They were better than a lot of the other Leon Schlesinger cartoons at the time, but Fleischer Studios and early Disney cartoons really put them to shame. You can find a lot of 1930s cartoons on Youtube if you wanna check out yourself (and the ones that aren't on Youtube tend to be on Dailymotion).
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