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Facebook Aunt posted:Presumably they have obvious visual differences, and those differences are explained during the mandatory gun safety lectures. Hollywood and stage plays have had a good long time to work out a reliable system. there's really never been a comparable incident before where a high profile actor was involved in an on set shooting because of mishandled weapons, so, uncharted waters and everyone deserves a break 
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Even if they had some standardized protocol, would it have made a difference when he brought scabs along after the union guys walked out?
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Jan 20, 2023 21:49
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The film is still gonna be released right? If it does well will it start a trend of getting actors to kill staff members?
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Jan 20, 2023 21:51
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i'm going to pay full price at the theatre admission to see the moment alec cracks a sick one liner and shoots directly at the camera, as is his wont
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:i'm going to pay full price at the theatre admission to see the moment alec cracks a sick one liner and shoots directly at the camera, as is his wont they're gonna cgi it now obviously.
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Jan 20, 2023 22:01
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and the greatest irony is that after the artists finish their fifth consecutive 100 hr week of lovingly rendering a baldwin-alike abomination, they'll try to unionize and the studio will send someone to shoot them all in the head too
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:i'm going to pay full price at the theatre admission to see the moment alec cracks a sick one liner and shoots directly at the camera, as is his wont If Alec shoots you in a movie you die in real life
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Jan 20, 2023 22:02
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:If Alec shoots you in a movie you die in real life noones ever acted so good they caught real charges for it befor its revolutionary
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Jan 20, 2023 22:04
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You look at 'em and there's definitely an obvious difference between a real bullet and a blank. Differences between real bullets and dummies too.  There are several kinds of 'fake' bullets you might use for various situations. All with clear differences.  If anyone had checked the mistake would have been caught. Nobody bothered to take 10 seconds to check.
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:If Alec shoots you in a movie you die in real life Is that what those 4D theatres are?
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Facebook Aunt posted:You look at 'em and there's definitely an obvious difference between a real bullet and a blank. I think for movies they sometimes use a blank cartridge with the bullet, so that it looks normal whenever they're on camera.
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Jan 20, 2023 22:38
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mobby_6kl posted:I think for movies they sometimes use a blank cartridge with the bullet, so that it looks normal whenever they're on camera. I think that's what the "dummy" is. It has a bullet tip, so a shot of a six shooter or whatever where the bullets are visible will look right. The dummy doesn't have any gunpowder at all though, because that would just be a bullet. Since dummies look like bullets from the front, they have a dimple in the back and/or crimped sides so it is still super obvious which ones are the dummies. Dummy - tip but no gunpowder Blank - gunpowder but no bullet Practice - Just bullet shaped plastic to practice dry firing.
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Jan 20, 2023 22:52
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The Bramble posted:Life and Beth was a good show but this is a bad joke I'm not sure she understands they just saved her from a bad joke, like yeah it also hurts the industry too but that's incidental to how lame that joke is
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Jan 20, 2023 23:20
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First you get your joke approval then you do the edits, otherwise you're wasting your time on good untold jokes
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Jan 20, 2023 23:23
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You don't kill your cinematographer in the audition, as they say
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I find it hard to believe alec baldwin was charged with involuntary manslaughter. he couldn't even make a child laugh when he's trying, what makes you think he could make a man laugh by accident no I'm not going to check if some version of that joke has already been made itt
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kalel posted:no I'm not going to check if some version of that joke has already been made itt Amy?!
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Jan 21, 2023 04:09
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Why dont they just use fake prop guns and cg the fuckin bullets?
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Why dont they just use fake prop guns and cg the fuckin bullets? 
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Why dont they just use fake prop guns and cg the fuckin bullets? because it looks like poo poo
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Facebook Aunt posted:If anyone had checked the mistake would have been caught. Nobody bothered to take 10 seconds to check. No amount of training and practice will circumvent human idiocy.
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So what took so long, anyways? Cause the timing feels like the DA heard about the settlement and the plans for the film to be completed and thought "you've gotta be making GBS threads me!"
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Jan 21, 2023 08:14
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it's like that "what're you gonna do stab me" - stabbing victim thing only it's the perp going "stick 'em up lol i won't murder you" - murderer
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Buce posted:what are the odds alex baldwin would be able to tell the difference between a blank and a live round even if he did check the weapon before poppin off? Live rounds have bullets in the end of them, blanks do not. There are also dummy rounds that look like live rounds except they have a ball bearing instead of gunpowder and should rattle when shaken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5rkF0hgJUw What happened to Brandon Lee is that a bullet from a dummy round got lodged in the barrel of the gun, and the armorer didn't check that the barrel was clear before loading blanks, and the blank launched the bullet into Brandon.
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Jan 21, 2023 11:08
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So new episodes of Match Game when?
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mudskipp posted:The film is still gonna be released right? With how slap-dash this whole thing sounds, I get the impression that this was only ever a direct-to-DVD/streaming release anyway. The kind of thing you’d find left over at the bottom of the $5 bin at Walmart after the Black Friday rush.
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I know people who had hiring stipulations that they wouldn't work props on set with that specific armorer a year before this happened, she's pretty hosed idk what that means for Baldwin, but exec producer and all
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Jan 21, 2023 19:34
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So even this small film has a budget in the millions. Big ones go to tens or hundreds of millions. Why is it necessary to use real guns that are even physically capable of firing bullets? Surely they could afford to make props? If you go the real gun route, it seems like you should give firearms training to any actor or other employee who touches them, which they also don't seem to want to do. And it's also challenging because characters are usually supposed to be doing dangerous things with guns.
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Elukka posted:So even this small film has a budget in the millions. Big ones go to tens or hundreds of millions. Because only real guns look like real guns. Pretty sure they all receive firearms training, they just immediately forget it because they majored in drama.
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Elukka posted:So even this small film has a budget in the millions. Big ones go to tens or hundreds of millions. it's because alec baldwin has an insatiable lust for murder by firearm
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This is not really the same as the Brandon Lee shooting where a piece of a dummy round broke off in the gun and then fired. Also Michael Massee has said in interviews that he still has nightmares about killing Brandon Lee.
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Elukka posted:So even this small film has a budget in the millions. Big ones go to tens or hundreds of millions. Because they cut corners everywhere possible.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Because only real guns look like real guns. Pretty sure they all receive firearms training, they just immediately forget it because they majored in drama. it would be entirely possible to modify real weapons with special firing pins and receivers such that they would fire specially made blank rounds that more or less resemble real bullets, but the weapon will no longer chamber real bullets just sounds like money no one ever wanted to spend
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Cabbages and Kings posted:it would be entirely possible to modify real weapons with special firing pins and receivers such that they would fire specially made blank rounds that more or less resemble real bullets, but the weapon will no longer chamber real bullets That’s still a real gun in my book, they should do that. They really need to bring back squibs and blood packs though, the CGI poo poo looks like garbage.
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Jan 21, 2023 22:28
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Oh no, not Alec Baldwin he's seems like such a nice guy, what a shame, gosh darn
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Hollismason posted:This is not really the same as the Brandon Lee shooting where a piece of a dummy round broke off in the gun and then fired. Also Michael Massee has said in interviews that he still has nightmares about killing Brandon Lee. True, but an armorer not doing his loving job properly was involved. There should never have been real live rounds on set. Reportedly, the weapon was taken off set and used by some crew to shoot at cans using live ammo. What probably happened is it still had some live rounds left in it when it was brought back, and then was likely not checked in properly. https://www.thewrap.com/halyna-hutchins-live-ammo-target-practice/ Elukka posted:So even this small film has a budget in the millions. Big ones go to tens or hundreds of millions. Prop weapons are cheaper most of the time, and can usually be rented from prop weapon shops all ready to go. Real guns are only cheaper if you're being sponsored by some gun dealer
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No matter what, I will always stand behind Alec Baldwin. Especially if he's holding a gun
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Cabbages and Kings posted:whatever happens here is still more consequences than William Burroughs ever saw for literally shooting his wife in the head during an argument while they were all drunk and high on / withdrawing from drugs! Burroughs had the good sense to do that in (Old) Mexico, though.
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The surefire way to get away with it is to do it on Future Mexico soil
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