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God the writing in this game is dire. The gameplay so far has been excellent (Lumera flying across the field to Ridersbane Vander was a fun surprise), but my god, between the stewards' fanboying, "Emblem Marth, to be clear", (not really spoilers) Evil Hooded Girl loving off even though she wasn't hurt, and Lumera's five minute death speech telling Alear to "fight on with the utmost divinity", I do not have high hopes for anything that happens plotwise from here. TheOneAndOnlyT fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jan 20, 2023 |
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'Emblem Marth, to be clear' is good
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 22:54 |
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Endorph posted:frankly armor units being able to turn off one of the game's core features feels a touch much, though i never thought he like, literally broke the game, he just seems a touch centralizing, at least on hard. personally id have just made armors immune to the first break each turn. I have spent years with bad armors. I deserve overpowered armored units for at least one game.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 22:55 |
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cheetah7071 posted:clanne is like, laser focused on having exactly the right stats for hard mode. Exactly one-rounding enemies that would otherwise take three combats Mages look to be really good this entry. Standard infantry movement, Tomes themselves have decent Might and being able to ignore the colossal terrain bonuses is so clutch. They can’t Break so they’re not an end-all-be-all solution but they seem to have a lot less obvious weaknesses this time around.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 22:56 |
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On one hand, a lot of the Alear worship is annoying On the other hand I love Clanne and Framme being the founders, co-presidents, and only members of the Alear fan club. That is funny.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:01 |
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clanne and framme are clearly meant to be a little overbearing and annoying going by alear's reactions to them, you arent meant to go 'haha yeah i AM awesome', its a joke clanne is a bit annoying even so but framme is charming enough also i dont understand the multiple people bringing up 'emblem marth, to be clear' it is the most banal line
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:03 |
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Alcryst's intro scene is great, by the way. Like it goes a bit cartoony for my tastes but I love the basic concept.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:06 |
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I’m about four chapters in and I actually don’t mind the story! The concept of emblems is deeply deeply stupid, and the divine one gets a bit grating, but the story is told quite well, and I thought the chapter 3 death scene was actually kinda touching! A heal staff was used! People don’t die that quickly! Dragon magic!! I’m pretty engaged in the plot, Saturday morning cartoon tho it may be.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:11 |
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The actual dialogue isn't fantastic, and the story beats are a bit standard but literally every single character so far except for Alfred and his retainers have been A++. I love how goofy this game is. Just enjoy it. Not everything has to be deep and morally ambiguous. Besides there's definitely some stuff happening with the lost memory, even if they're a bit predictable.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:15 |
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slapping Sigurd on Framme is extremely funny and also seems like it's going to be extremely good with a little bit of investment, this owns.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:16 |
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Having to run around and talk to everyone/pick poo poo off the ground after missions is such a bummer after a while. Just give it all to me on a loot screen after the battle!TheOneAndOnlyT posted:God the writing in this game is dire. I normally never do this, but I'm skipping cutscenes and mashing through dialogue. The combat is excellent, I like the Emblem system and all the troop management stuff, but the story and characters are just white noise.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:20 |
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If you go staight to the exit you will get all the bond fragments you missed, which is the most important reward unless you love Eggs
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:21 |
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Endorph posted:also i dont understand the multiple people bringing up 'emblem marth, to be clear' it is the most banal line If it were just the one time then it'd be whatever, but that line is emblematic () of a problem I've seen come up in the writing multiple times already, and I've only finished chapter 3. Characters keep phrasing things in ways that technically make sense, but that no human would ever utter aloud. I can deal with the plot being a Saturday morning cartoon if that's what it wants to be. But it's off-putting when characters keep saying weirdly-phrased poo poo.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:22 |
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I was kind of despising the cast when Alfred showed up with his group but later recruits have been better
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:23 |
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But. He is emblem marth. He is the emblem of marth. Hes emblem marth. Why wouldnt he say it like that.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:23 |
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I am Bond. James Bond, to be clear.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:25 |
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Also, the archer chick isn't jacked enough for all her lines to be about having big muscles, working out, etc. It's bizarre. She just has a deep voice!
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:26 |
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I had to switch to JP for a while because of hortensia. And I heavily tolerate high pitch but that was like a special audio spectrum.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:27 |
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Tbf she has noticeable abs which is more than alfred has
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:27 |
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Imo it's ok for video game dialogue to not be 100% realistic to the way people talk irl, because the way people talk irl would be incredibly boring to read/listen to.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:30 |
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so far the story is insanely generic but the gameplay is very polished and fun so I'm happy. lmao @ Etie having the character design she does and then finding out her personality is "bodybuilding maniac"
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:31 |
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I mean I think the “to be clear” line is supposed to indicate that these aren’t like. The literal spooky ghosts of the old protags.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:31 |
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yeah theyre like, projections or w/e. they didnt nab marth and stick him in a ring its just a projection of a Legendary Hero From Folklore... or something. so when marths saying 'im emblem marth' hes saying 'im *emblem* marth'. which is a perfectly reasonable distinction for a real person to make and appending the title to make that distinction is pretty natural.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:36 |
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Endorph posted:But. He is emblem marth. He is the emblem of marth. Hes emblem marth. Why wouldnt he say it like that. Cattail Prophet posted:Imo it's ok for video game dialogue to not be 100% realistic to the way people talk irl, because the way people talk irl would be incredibly boring to read/listen to.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Because he could have just said "I am the Emblem known as Marth"
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:38 |
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'i am doctor johnson' 'i am the doctor known as johnson'
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:38 |
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It's not clear to me if Emblem is a title like Doctor but okay, fine. "I am Emblem Marth", then. Still much better than what they used. Given that all the weird phrasing I've seen so far has been in CG cutscenes, I actually kinda wonder if some of it is just padding to line up with the JP lip-sync.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:41 |
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Endorph posted:'i am johnson. dr. johnson to be precise'
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Endorph posted:'i am doctor johnson'
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RevolverDivider posted:I was kind of despising the cast when Alfred showed up with his group but later recruits have been better I've seen a couple of people point to Alfred and co as noticeably weaker characters than the rest of the cast but they don't seem that bad imo. Maybe Alfred himself because its weird to get another big fanboy a chapter after Clanne and Framme but I was expecting worse. Like they're kinda generic but in the history of early game fighters and archers I don't think Etie and Boucheron compare badly.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:44 |
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Etie’s cool and has a good design I just hate Alfred and want to stuff him in a locker.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:46 |
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boucheron is somewhere above dorcas and somewhere below bartre. the best thing about alfred is how insanely homoerotic his supports are.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:47 |
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you know is sigurd's horse the one he had in fe4 or is it just a generic ghost horse. can the horse understand the concept of being an immortal ghost hero. these are the deep question fire emblem engage raises.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:54 |
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Boucheron's a good lad. Into fishing, hiking, relaxing. Beefcake.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:55 |
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In terms of quirks I don't think 'loves bodybuilding and muscles' is a bad one, I'm just not sure if Alfred and both of his retainers needed to share it.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:55 |
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I can always get behind a simple country lad.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:55 |
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The true mystery from Engage is why are half the downtime clothes formal attire and half casual hoodies from Uniqlo.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:56 |
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Hellioning posted:In terms of quirks I don't think 'loves bodybuilding and muscles' is a bad one, I'm just not sure if Alfred and both of his retainers needed to share it. all the nobles and retainers share a theme but they usually iterate on it better i feel like. like both of alcryst's retainers have confidence issues too but they express it in different ways from alcryst, lapis just wants to keep her head down and do the work given to her and citrinne feels the need to be like, hypervigilant and a proper noble since shes technically part of the royal family.
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# ? Jan 20, 2023 23:58 |
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Treehouse loves putting lower voice girls for JP higher pitch, but they also do it in the reverse for guys for some reason. Like Alfred is way deeper in JP, also they gave him a squeek vocal for some reason.
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etie's abs are nowhere near visible enough in gameTae posted:Treehouse loves putting lower voice girls for JP higher pitch, but they also do it in the reverse for guys for some reason. Like Alfred is way deeper in JP, also they gave him a squeek vocal for some reason. britain canonically being this one tiny island in firene is funny though, does jean's village have a distinctive accent with the jp voices too lih fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jan 21, 2023 |
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