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Fellatio del Toro posted:yeah, feels weird saying this, but if I didn't care about cars being fun the new Prius might have been at the top of my list for a next car The one major downside that will continue to exist is dogshit performance, which is obviously the trade off for magic MPG with Dino juice. In Doug’s video every acceleration seemed painful and sad, and current gen is much worse. But of course, it’s not dangerously slow, few cars are, and most drivers don’t care.
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The Prius's tested performance seems respectable. Car and Driver recorded a 7.1s 0-60 time, and 8.1s in the 5-60/street start. These figures are only a half-second slower than the new Civic Si. The Prius also notched 0.87g on its all-season rubber in the skidpad, which matches the 0.86g a first-gen 86 got on all-season rubber. But raw performance does not equal fun, and while the newest Toyotas are much improved dynamically, I still wouldn't call them fun.
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That 86 and Prius had the exact same tires, makes sense in that skid pad performance is almost always only limited by the tires they are on. A lot of OEM cars sit on the bumpstops in steady state cornering.
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Twerk from Home posted:The manual base Corolla has rev-matching, right? I remember reading it was a pretty great stick shift. It is, and it’s great. Recently got a gr and it’s more wicked cool, but the e210 se w/ manual is a fun car. Both transmissions are great, notchy/mechanical feeling, good throws, good weight The base has a tiny amount of rev hang, nothing in gr
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Russian Bear posted:You’re going to miss the cavernous hatch but that Corolla seems to solve one of my big complaints with the Fit which is cabin noise. According to savagegeese, Corolla hatch is really quiet for its class. I wonder if the US market Corolla has better NVH or something, because the EU Corolla is one of the worst in its class when it comes to cabin noise. Every Toyota I've driven (newer and older) have been mediocre at best in that regard, come to think of it.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:The hatch was ridiculous on the Fit, I never ended up doing it but you could squeeze an air mattress back there and camp out.  and with a sleeping bag it's perfect for stealth-camping in a city  Nidhg00670000 posted:I wonder if the US market Corolla has better NVH or something, because the EU Corolla is one of the worst in its class when it comes to cabin noise. Every Toyota I've driven (newer and older) have been mediocre at best in that regard, come to think of it.
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mobby_6kl posted:I got some sort of foam mattress from Ikea for like I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to your newsletter, can you say more about how you do this or what this means? I just have a small car but have thought about in the warmer months going fun places and sleeping in it for a night. I would buy a Suburban or something and do it with that but big cars are hella more pricey. e: it’s a sedan not a hatch which seems to mostly kill this idea.
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Residency Evil posted:
Toyota seems to think that the Prius is a niche vehicle again: https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a42231906/toyota-doesnt-expect-to-sell-many-more-prius/. The 2022 Prius did not sell great, it got out-sold by among other things the Mitsubishi Outlander, the Corvette, Escalades, and a ton of other cars that I don't think of as huge sellers. The Prius is not even dominant in its category anymore, 2022 saw 33k Prius sales to 29k Kia Niro sales: https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2022-us-vehicle-sales-figures-by-model/. It sucks, because I'm interested in this new Prius gen, but not if they're marked up over MSRP for years to come. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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One is a performance hatchback produced in very low volumes geared towards an enthusiast buyer. The other is geared towards fuel economy and meant to be produced in mass quantities. I doubt the overlap of buyers cross shopping the two is significant.
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I mean this new Prius redesign was probably intended to bring back attention to the nameplate and reverse slowing sales.
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Godzilla07 posted:But raw performance does not equal fun, and while the newest Toyotas are much improved dynamically, I still wouldn't call them fun. I’ll take ‘much improved but boring’ over the ‘loathe every minute behind the wheel’ dynamics of some of the older models.
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no lube so what posted:It is, and it’s great. Recently got a gr and it’s more wicked cool, but the e210 se w/ manual is a fun car. Both transmissions are great, notchy/mechanical feeling, good throws, good weight Yeah but the problem is the engine. No powerband whatsoever and slow as poo poo, I was thoroughly disappointed when I test drove one.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Yeah but the problem is the engine. No powerband whatsoever and slow as poo poo, I was thoroughly disappointed when I test drove one. Yeah, 160hp/3200lb isn’t good. Na Miata type power/weight. If you’d take it towards redline, It was fun. The power kinda boiled and was fine from 4.5-redline.
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the previous generation prius was one of the ugliest cars on the road. this one fixes that problem right up
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Yeah the Prius is a great car and I think if there’s any limit to whether you get one it has more to do with the supply chain crisis and the growing demand for fuel efficient cars with higher gas prices. I’m betting you can probably get one at MSRP or slightly less within a year
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Kraftwerk posted:Yeah the Prius is a great car and I think if there’s any limit to whether you get one it has more to do with the supply chain crisis and the growing demand for fuel efficient cars with higher gas prices.  I kinda doubt that.
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That sheet feels like it was created specifically by a dealer to scare people into paying whatever insane markups the dealer was charging
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What, the Excel table formatting doesn't look official enough?
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Neo_Crimson posted:
5 year lead time for a Sienna? lmao what the gently caress is that dealer smoking
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dealershit owner trying to squeeze a 3rd vacation house and boat in before the crash.
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Sagebrush posted:5 year lead time for a Sienna? lmao what the gently caress is that dealer smoking “Our waitlist has 100 people on it and our allocation is only 20 vehicles so…”
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The fact that it’s in an excel table makes me more inclined to believe it’s real it's still too nice looking for an oem communication, dealer probably cobbled it together from a bunch of text exports
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I tried to get on the waitlist for a rav4 prime and they denied me, saying the waitlist is already longer than the rest of the model run and they can’t take reservations for the next gen that doesn’t even exist yet. Maybe I’ll be able to get a used one from some poor gently caress who paid 60k for it and can’t afford the payments anymore
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Scrungus posted:Maybe I’ll be able to get a used one from some poor gently caress who paid 60k for it and can’t afford the payments anymore Yeah sure you can, for $58k with 60k miles lmao
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So my Cars and Bids auction ended 2 weeks ago. Dude was supposed to come pick it up last week, but had to delay a week because "his paycheck wasn't what he expected". Apparently the buyer took out a loan to ensure he'd have my money this week, he wants me to text a photo of the title to his credit union for the loan lol. Now he just texted me saying he needs to pick it up on a different day than we agreed, will be a few hours away for work and is going to get a U-Haul to bring the wagon home but he asked if I'd be willing to pick him up so he could get a UHaul from somewhere near me to save a little money. Nah dude I'm not doing a 7 hour round trip road trip just so you can save $200. I knew my wagon wasn't the cleanest, but I really thought it'd fetch a bit more than it did on C&B. When I told the dealer that I'd be selling it instead of accepting their trade offer an employee made me an offer that ended up being more money than I got off C&B (and obviously would've saved me this whole hassle of trying to coordinate with a buyer)  Live and learn I guess lol. Wouldn't care if it weren't for getting the run-around on actually completing this sale...
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Keyser_Soze posted:
I actually could use a truck for towing and I'm fighting it with every part of my being for now, so far my xB is doing a decent job towing my (small) boat and I still have a few more upgrade options before I break down and get a truck. As long as i can keep all the fluids cool enough and stop quick enough I'll be good. Haven't been on any long-ish trips yet tho so the jury is still out, if the car struggles too much I'll either have to sell the boat or get a truck 
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Keyser_Soze posted:
lmao now do a superduty
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cursedshitbox posted:lmao now do a superduty Back when I worked at a beach resort, people would come in on vacation with their quad cab dually super duties and expect to find a place to park.....Like if you could afford that you can't afford a normal sized car as well to take to the beach or the grocery store? Nope it's their daily driver They would get so mad that we couldn't give them a parking space and they could barely navigate the parking lot to begin with. Pro tip for giant truck owners, make sure the place you're staying has parking available for your monstrosity.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I actually could use a truck for towing and I'm fighting it with every part of my being for now, so far my xB is doing a decent job towing my (small) boat and I still have a few more upgrade options before I break down and get a truck. As long as i can keep all the fluids cool enough and stop quick enough I'll be good. I bought a Silverado 4x4 LT CC for $39k back in the "$12k of cash on the hood" glory days of Jan 2018 as a 2nd fuckoff vehicle and used the piss out of it for a long list of delayed projects at my house and at my senior aged parents house for a good year or two. It was very handy no doubt and it was great just making dump/nursery/lumberyard/etc runs without having to plan it out and go rent a truck etc. By the end of 2020, it pretty much ran out of its usefulness and was really taking up too much space in my garage so I sold it during the truck frenzy of early 2021 for $37k  . I do miss it sometimes and it's nice V8 rumble but an SUV with a hitch and a wee trailer will be taking care of what it was doing in the future. I was pondering an extended cab GMC Canyon RWD too and they can be had for $34k I bet. The issue was they are ridiculously high off the ground too unless you want to spend 2k+ lowering it. Here was the article: https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history https://twitter.com/DavidZipper/status/1617511883271028737 Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 24, 2023 |
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Who the gently caress can afford to "pleasure drive"?
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Back when I worked at a beach resort, people would come in on vacation with their quad cab dually super duties and expect to find a place to park.....Like if you could afford that you can't afford a normal sized car as well to take to the beach or the grocery store? Nope it's their daily driver I've been a guest at resorts where I've been able to see this. My favorite is because their giant rear end truck is so long, they think they are fixing things by backing into the space, using the depth of the sidewalk as extra parking space for the bed to overhang. The fact that they think it's acceptable to block the sidewalk and cause an accessibility issue rather than do literally anything else tells me all I need to know about the owner. It's not a rare thing either, the last time I was at a place like that, it was about 80% of the trucks that parked that way.
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Speleothing posted:Who the gently caress can afford to "pleasure drive"? If you can't, just take out a longer loan and reduce your monthly so you can afford pleasure fuel.
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Speleothing posted:Who the gently caress can afford to "pleasure drive"? People who buy 60k vanity trucks
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BraveUlysses posted:People who buy 60k vanity trucks 60? try 100+. 60k buys a shagged out 6.4 psd.
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