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leftist heap posted:We're gonna get right on making streets safer any day now. tired: vision-zero wired: vision vision-zero
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leftist heap posted:We're gonna get right on making streets safer any day now. Vision zero is loving bullshit anyway, you know the solution isn't going to be "cars are overwhelmingly what kill people so lets have a lot less cars and a lot more everything else" it will be "we need to make cars even safer (for the occupants) and spend a ton of money on road infrastructure while also strongly discouraging or preventing walking or cycling as those are inherently dangerous activities". Also my partner and I were walking towards the local shopping area yesterday and she commented on how terrible it is to walk to. It's was probably built in the 80's or 90's and is the kind of place where the shops are surrounded on all sides by carpark with zero thought put towards how a pedestrian would get to the shops without having to mingle with all the cars. The same place also has this absolute basket case of an intersection, no traffic lights or pedestrian crossing or anything, basically just good luck and hope that cars coming towards you are actually indicating correctly (lol we almost got hit by a tesla who was not indicating). 
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Jan 20, 2023 19:48
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Some brain genius managed to flip a car in rush hour traffic downtown.
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I'm impressed that the Tesla didn't explode during the whole debacle.
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there has been some progress made here in the main two streets that go through what is called uptown, hennepin and lyndale avenue lyndale had a 4 to 3 conversion hennepin also has a major rework approved https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download/RCAV2/27339/Hennepin-Ave-S-Street-Reconstruction-Project-Layout.pdf unfortunately our dumbass mayor vetoed having the bus only lanes be 24/7 but whatever, it's definitely an improvement some dumbass "business owner/investor" wrote an op-ed bitching about the loss of street parking lol (his wealthy suburban customers demand being able to park right in front!) for context 
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Jan 20, 2023 21:01
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BonHair posted:Countdown to the constitutional amendment securing the unalienable right of every American to drive a car wherever and whenever they want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ
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Jan 20, 2023 21:17
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always laugh at this vid
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Jan 20, 2023 21:26
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It's because it's funny especially taht gary johnson is literally less stupid than the average libertarian
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Lib and let die posted:I'm impressed that the Tesla didn't explode during the whole debacle. How are Teslas still legal??
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Corrupt oligarchy
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actionjackson posted:hennepin also has a major rework approved Obligatory... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlI7vaxBm9o
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so a few weeks ago some lady took her SUV off road and it made the local news. https://westseattleblog.com/2023/01/1-injured-in-crash-near-west-end-of-west-seattle-bridge/  but what I just noticed is that she's the first comment on the story and here is what she goes with: quote:It was me! I miraculously walked away with only normal seatbelt injuries. I am concerned about that top section of the West Seattle bridge. I don’t know if anyone else has had this experience but it’s awfully slick as you come around that curve. I felt my Yukon truck do a small shimmy and next thing I knew I wasn’t a full hydroplane flying across both lanes into the pole. The electrical box that controls the signals flew up into the bushes a good 10 feet that’s a very large box to move that far. I think Estrom should take a closer look at the pavement irregularities around that slick spot same as is you’re coming up Roxbury heading towards white center. I’m just grateful no one else was in my vehicle, and no one else was injured. Take care West Seattle Peeps. the way she typo'd "was in" as "wasn't" makes me think she uses voice to text a lot.
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albert burneko: car brain https://defector.com/how-not-to-interrogate-the-ethics-of-teslas-busted-autopilot-technology Some joker says that Tesla who put it into killer robot mode have made the informed choice to be Tesla's guinea pigs for autopilot. Albert writes that, no, the guinea pigs are the other people walking and driving on the road have been made into unwilling test subjects for autopilot. My carbrained brother, no road users other than drivers have made the informed, voluntary choice to die as red pulp on a front air dam--that's okay, I'll still keep cooking that chili recipe.
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Greg12 posted:albert burneko: car brain alberts right
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lobster shirt posted:alberts right yes, and he's carbrained. human-pilot cars kill over 40,000 people every year in america alone. just like the people the autopilot kills did not give informed consent to be sacrificed to self-driving automobility, the people who aren't in the cars did not give informed consent to be sacrificed to automobility. his carbrain keeps him from seeing that.
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Jan 21, 2023 16:34
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lmao i wanna be a libertarian now 
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Jan 21, 2023 16:37
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keep the nanny state OUT of my air fryer
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Blackhawk posted:Vision zero is loving bullshit anyway, you know the solution isn't going to be "cars are overwhelmingly what kill people so lets have a lot less cars and a lot more everything else" it will be "we need to make cars even safer (for the occupants) and spend a ton of money on road infrastructure while also strongly discouraging or preventing walking or cycling as those are inherently dangerous activities".
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:so a few weeks ago some lady took her SUV off road and it made the local news. Never change, West Seattle.
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Jan 21, 2023 17:23
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looks like this is where she crashed https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5701245,-122.3727633,3a,75y,226.99h,85.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seSTZZCXBg8mo4SZev00UPg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 interestingly it's an uphill curve, so to collect enough water to hydroplane there it would have to be raining pretty hard definitely not a time and place to stomp on the gas on a 400hp truck
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Dustcat posted:looks like this is where she crashed But the commercial shows a Yukon doing 70mph in the snow
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I had to drive today and burned with self hatred and misanthropy. Then I saw a guy riding a bicycle with trailer out in the suburbs and that cheered me up a bit, but I had a smile on my face seeing a dude riding a horse through the suburbs. Destroy all cars. More bikes and horses.
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:I had to drive today and burned with self hatred and misanthropy. Then I saw a guy riding a bicycle with trailer out in the suburbs and that cheered me up a bit, but I had a smile on my face seeing a dude riding a horse through the suburbs. Say neigh to cars.
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Greg12 posted:yes, and he's carbrained. your reporting here is confusing, because in your own summary you say he described them as unwilling test subjects. we would typically not expect consent from the unwilling. e: ok i think i see what you are getting at, in that the self-driving part is not very important relative to the car part and you wish to focus on the broader issue. or at least this is my best guess.
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Good news, everyone! Fiat are equipping their newest performance EV with an external subwoofer to finally solve the worst problem with electric cars 
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an actual frog posted:Good news, everyone! Fiat are equipping their newest performance EV with an external subwoofer to finally solve the worst problem with electric cars I cannot express how much this pisses me off. I've been supportive of the whole "hey if you have to buy a new car, at leasst an ev is nice because it makes the road quieter/nicer for pedestrians and cyclists noise wise" but the noise generator poo poo is INFURIATING.
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engines arent even that loud, its tire noise thats defeaning. a problem that will not be solved by a heavier vehicle.
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lobster shirt posted:engines arent even that loud, its tire noise thats defeaning. a problem that will not be solved by a heavier vehicle. Tires do have a baseline road noise however engines are loud as all gently caress. I walk at least a few miles a day and envitably multiple stupid fucks who tune their engines as loud as they possibly can roll by and its like my god drat ears bleed. I live on a semi busy 4 lane in the city and I get woken up almost every night at least once by someone BRBRRRTRBRBTBTBBRBRBBTBTBTBRBBTBTTing as loud as possible
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silicone thrills posted:I live on a semi busy 4 lane in the city and I get woken up almost every night at least once by someone BRBRRRTRBRBTBTBBRBRBBTBTBTBRBBTBTTing as loud as possible  Some unrelated good news. In London at least, it seems that closing some residential streets to through-traffic doesn't shove all the traffic onto other routes but can actually lead to a reduction in overall car journeys?  https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/19/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-boundary-roads-londonquote:Low-traffic neighbourhoods significantly reduce the number of motor vehicles within their boundaries without appearing to push traffic on to roads around their edges, the most comprehensive study yet of such schemes in the UK has concluded. quote:Prof Rachel Aldred, the director of the ATA and co-author of the study, said: “The research indicates there has been overall ‘traffic evaporation’ as a result of these schemes, as the mean average reduction in motor traffic on internal roads is around 10 times higher than the mean average increase on boundary roads, adjusting for background trends.
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In Omaha, a Streetcar Named Undesirable by Warren Buffett:quote:For 60 years, I have been interested in the transit industry. In three cities — Dallas, Buffalo and New Bedford — I was a modest-sized owner for many years and in other large cities I have been a creditor of transit operators. I have seen projections and listened to proposals, some by the well-intentioned and some by profit-seeking promotors and advisors. Disappointments almost invariably have followed. The mistakes became imbedded and the costs rolled on. Shut the gently caress up, Warren Buffett. quote:In the Midtown neighborhood near downtown, Rebecca Boylan, whose frame shop has been on Farnam Street for 27 years, said she had mixed feelings about the streetcar plans. Shut the gently caress up, Rebecca Boylan. You probably drive a Pontiac Aztek and park it in front of your store.
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Here's my new favorite sub-genre of car activity: using cars as weapons to take stuff you want to have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQPQDcnAss
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Lol, she is literally worried that the value of her store's location will go up, because that will increase the taxes? She does realize that the value of a store location is basically a function of how many potential customers come by it, right? And that having public transport means more people at her shop? I know it's the wrong
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BonHair posted:Lol, she is literally worried that the value of her store's location will go up, because that will increase the taxes? She does realize that the value of a store location is basically a function of how many potential customers come by it, right? And that having public transport means more people at her shop? I know it's the wrong well...she's kinda right? on top of paying more property tax (rent?) she will make more money from more customers, putting her into a higher tax bracket and costing her even more in personal income taxes. Someone has to take a minute and think this crazy plan through.
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“Things can’t get better for young people because a boomer is upset about streetcars looking like they came out of an irrelevant fifty year old movie” sounds about right
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Boomers are uniquely bad at judging situations involving multiple factors.
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silicone thrills posted:Tires do have a baseline road noise however engines are loud as all gently caress. I walk at least a few miles a day and envitably multiple stupid fucks who tune their engines as loud as they possibly can roll by and its like my god drat ears bleed. It's not the engine. They changed their exhaust to be louder. It's like sticking a whistle on an exhaust pipe to whistle all the time. DR FRASIER KRANG posted:Here's my new favorite sub-genre of car activity: using cars as weapons to take stuff you want to have Ironically a bike store near me was robbed 3 times like this.
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:It's not the engine. They changed their exhaust to be louder. It's like sticking a whistle on an exhaust pipe to whistle all the time.  neato. Thank you for that moment of car pedantry. No loving poo poo sherlock
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:It's not the engine. They changed their exhaust to be louder. It's like sticking a whistle on an exhaust pipe to whistle all the time. The price of bikes is too drat high
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:It's not the engine. They changed their exhaust to be louder. It's like sticking a whistle on an exhaust pipe to whistle all the time. if we're gonna be pedantic, you're talking about something else entirely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0
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