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You know, you gotta imagine that someone, somewhere, is pitching the idea to venture capitalists of "Twitter, but with an actual content moderation and ad sales team, and without the narcissistic manchild or billion-dollar debt payments". At this stage you could probably hire back most of the staff too.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:You know, you gotta imagine that someone, somewhere, is pitching the idea to venture capitalists of "Twitter, but with an actual content moderation and ad sales team, and without the narcissistic manchild or billion-dollar debt payments". If it was a matter of tech, and not that of the network effect, someone would’ve done it already.
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I don't understand why with modern video game consoles: If I OWN the game disc and have it installed on MY machine, why do I have to be online to play the loving thing? I've been monkeying around for about an hour now not being able to get any of my games to boot up (it won't recognize that I own the disc) only to find out they're having a server issue. I called support when I ran out of troubleshooting to see about maybe getting it repaired, suspecting it was the disc drive, and could not for the life of me understand half of what the guy was saying, then was put on hold so he could "escalate" the problem but then had silence for a half hour and hung up when my console said "we are aware of the issue" and the dude stopped talking to me. This online all the time poo poo has got to go IMO. I know I'm old and cranky but I don't think I'm out of bounds here longing for simpler times when you put the loving game cart/disc into the console and actually got to play it. I don't even PLAY online games and have zero reason to be online when I want to waste a couple of hours. One suggestion I read was to play offline, which I do anyway, but Elden Ring and Hitman for example will not let me play at all without being connected and require me to be online in the first place to TELL the game I want to be offline. Why? Part of the reason I like physical media is because I live in a hurricane zone that can also sometimes have spotty internet connections and, when that happens, my DVD and game library is nice to have. Also, if I buy a disc and install a game and register it, why does my console need the disc to verify the license? Can people honestly not take a copy of a game to a friend's house and play it anymore?
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't understand why with modern video game consoles: You may own the plastic thing the game is on, but you don't own the game. You purchased a license to use it and in that license they can basically do whatever including all of these things are are annoying you and everyone else.
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dr_rat posted:Does the judge seeing the case know about this? possibly because it's such a low stakes case and it's basically just advise to someone representing themselves, they won't care, but the judge caring will be the main thing. I think he said the judge didn't know, but then he deleted a bunch of tweets, including that one. In general, I think judges don't usually love people using their courtroom for publicity stunts like this? And traffic court isn't exactly known for its complex cases, so it's not like this is going to be particularly impressive. Electric Wrigglies posted:I don't really understand this argument because as far as I understand it, lawyers have perfect protection from liability. If they gently caress up your case from a creative point, you can't sue them for professional liability like you can with a mechanical engineer or a medical practitioner. Losing a case is because your case was wrong, a bridge falling over is because the engineer got it wrong and he (well, his professional indemnity insurance) has to pay. If a defense lawyer fails to uphold their obligation to represent you competently and responsibly, they can indeed be sued for malpractice, and in particularly egregious cases they can even face disciplinary measures from the state bar. Additionally, in criminal cases, your lawyer has a constitutional duty to provide you effective counsel, and a sufficiently incompetent or negligent lawyer can find themselves the centerpiece of an "ineffective assistance of counsel" appeal, which doesn't have any direct consequences to the lawyer by itself but can be rather difficult to explain to potential clients in the future.
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Kwyndig posted:Any legal experts want to chime in on the legality of this asinine plan? I'm hearing from my attorney "John Madden! John Madden! John Madden! aeiou aeiou"
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Motronic posted:You may own the plastic thing the game is on, but you don't own the game. You purchased a license to use it and in that license they can basically do whatever including all of these things are are annoying you and everyone else. OK fine. Except MS/Sony already know that I own the game.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:I don't really understand this argument because as far as I understand it, lawyers have perfect protection from liability. If they gently caress up your case from a creative point, you can't sue them for professional liability like you can with a mechanical engineer or a medical practitioner. Losing a case is because your case was wrong, a bridge falling over is because the engineer got it wrong and he (well, his professional indemnity insurance) has to pay. e;fb on the bad job part Vegetable fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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Volmarias posted:The gold fringe on the flag in the courtroom means that there's an ear trumpet within the flag stand that can be removed for use if necessary. As a venerable an relatively ancient institution the SCOTUS has on hand an old southern gentleman in Kentucky Colonel costume who, upon request, will stand next to a hard of hearing court participant and yell everything loudly into their ear in the style of "AH SAY SUH, THE RIGHT HONORABLE JUDGE ALITO WANTS TO KNOW IF YOU ENJOYED THE PAELLA HIS WIFE MADE LAST NIGHT" while fanning himself
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Main Paineframe posted:I think he said the judge didn't know, but then he deleted a bunch of tweets, including that one. Somehow I doubt lawyers are required to disclose ineffective assistance of counsel motions that were granted on them, but they probably should be come to think of it.
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ErIog posted:ML is, itself, also heavy marketing smoke too. Less so for some implementations, but it's an industry where people frequently call automated regression, "machine learning," when it's clearly an application of statistical modeling. "Being tortured for eternity by a clear application of statistical modeling" doesn't sound as sexy, though.
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Coherent piece on ChatGPT vs Google. TLDR: there are no miracles, Google has just let search rot ever since their merger with DoubleClick. https://www.readmargins.com/p/google-vs-chatgpt-told-by-aglio-e
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't understand why with modern video game consoles: It’s DRM OP. If they don’t phone home you could be playing a copied/pirated version of the game and god forbid you deprive some exec at actiblizz their bonus.
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Twerk from Home posted:I'm hearing from my attorney "John Madden! John Madden! John Madden! aeiou aeiou" "Hey! LISTEN!" "Hey! LISTEN!" "Hey! LISTEN!"
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Motronic posted:You may own the plastic thing the game is on, but you don't own the game. You purchased a license to use it and in that license they can basically do whatever including all of these things are are annoying you and everyone else. And it's still maddening because when I go to the online store it says right there that I already have the loving game installed (?) Why do I need the disc? Why do I need to be online? It's already ON my hard drive and I've ALREADY jumped through all the installation hoops and registered the game. Just let me play the games I bought and installed. Is that a lot to ask? Is it something where they don't want me password sharing with my friends? Like, if I go to their house and they log in their console with my account info, then they can play Elden RIng, NBA 2k or Hitman after I leave if I install it on their console? Because it seems to me there are far simpler ways to deal with that if that's what they're worried about. In my line of work, I go through this all the time with Adobe because it thinks I'm offline or not logged in when I am. Plus, Adobe already solved this problem 20 years ago by tracking your serial # once you installed the software you bought. How is this managing to actually get worse instead of better? Besides greed and data tracking I mean. ... So, yeah, it's an issue with MS servers or whatever. I think. To troubleshoot it, I put a Blu Ray in and, if it were the disc drive, the movie wouldn't play, right?
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't understand why with modern video game consoles: Please drink your verification can.
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The answer to questions like these is always: "they think it gives them a bit more profit or control, and they can get away with it."
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BiggerBoat posted:How is this managing to actually get worse instead of better? Besides greed and data tracking I mean. You answered your own question pretty thoroughly right there.
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BiggerBoat posted:
Can anyone verify this? If it was a hardware issue and related to the disc drive, then the CD, DVD and Blu Ray I put in there wouldn't work either, correct? It's only games that won't fire up but movies and music load fine. Guess I'm gonna watch Momento this afternoon instead of Elden Ring Absurd Alhazred posted:The answer to questions like these is always: "they think it gives them a bit more profit or control, and they can get away with it." I mean, yeah, I guess this is true and they can so long as people camp out around a city block and have riots every time a new console or phone is released so why should they care? I just don't see how they make more money by sporadically making my games unplayable and don't see the angle. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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ianmacdo posted:What about hearing aids with Bluetooth? Do they make hearing impaired people pull them out to check that Bluetooth is turned off? Nah, they won't care. I thought about this too but I'd be suspicious of how many lawyers wear hearing aids given the profession is exceedingly hearing-based.
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BiggerBoat posted:And it's still maddening because when I go to the online store it says right there that I already have the loving game installed (?) Yeah grandpa I know. I know you were in the war grandpa. Let's get you to bed. Doesn't a nap sound nice?
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Magic Underwear posted:Yeah grandpa I know. I know you were in the war grandpa. Let's get you to bed. Doesn't a nap sound nice? No. But I tied an onion to my belt. Cost me five bees.
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BiggerBoat posted:No. But I tied an onion to my belt. Five bees, sorry but you got ripped off. No one pays more than two bees for a belt onion these days, old timer.
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BiggerBoat posted:No. But I tied an onion to my belt. That bit originally aired almost thirty years ago. 
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Captain_Maclaine posted:That bit originally aired almost thirty years ago. It was the style at the time
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dr_rat posted:Five bees, sorry but you got ripped off. No one pays more than two bees for a belt onion these days, old timer. I bet they do in the Philippines.
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So are they just going to give up cooking? Like without onions, what's even the point? Well at least they'll still have halo-halo. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:The answer to questions like these is always: "they think it gives them a bit more profit or control, and they can get away with it." This is specifically not true with Elden Ring, at least as the primary motivating factor. Elden Ring was designed from the ground up to be online, and the Souls games in general have been since game 2. This was likely an early architecture choice and a lot of how the game is designed and starts up assumes that you're online, because 99% of players are. This is especially true since a lot of people play in online mode purposefully for it, and the anti-cheat protection is built in at the basic "connect to internet" level, especially for the console versions. If you look on the back of your box you'll see somewhere it says something to the effect of "Broadband internet service required." Hell, the asynch multiplayer is a specific selling point of the series. Yes it sucks, but Elden Ring is probably a bad game to signal out for this, because it misunderstands what the product is. Elden Ring is designed around internet connectivity and community, even if it is often in an abstract or asynchronous way. That they've built in an offline mode that you can opt into once you've connected, or if you're having internet connection issues (usually) is them being cool about it. It sounds more like there is some issue going on between the console service (PSN/Xbox) chatting with verification servers or possibly the handoff between the console service and the Elden Ring services. Which does, indeed, suck.
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Legal malpractice works exactly like medical malpractice.
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BiggerBoat posted:And it's still maddening because when I go to the online store it says right there that I already have the loving game installed (?) I stand with you on this my dude! Recently I wanted to transfer a save from my PS4 to PS5 and it refused to save them to the USB stick that it KNOWS is connected unless I was signed into PSN with the latest firmware.
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You're not wrong, it's horrible, but welcome to the future sir! You own nothing, and you'll enjoy it! (until someone cracks the DRM)
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TaintedBalance posted:This is specifically not true with Elden Ring, at least as the primary motivating factor. Elden Ring was designed from the ground up to be online, and the Souls games in general have been since game 2. This was likely an early architecture choice and a lot of how the game is designed and starts up assumes that you're online, because 99% of players are. This is especially true since a lot of people play in online mode purposefully for it, and the anti-cheat protection is built in at the basic "connect to internet" level, especially for the console versions. If you look on the back of your box you'll see somewhere it says something to the effect of "Broadband internet service required." Hell, the asynch multiplayer is a specific selling point of the series. None of this is true. Offline mode works fine in the PC version. I know this because I started naked and didn't want messages in early areas so I could have more fun exploring them myself and figuring out where to get loot. Offline has worked completely fine in every one of the games dating back to Demon's Souls where it was the recommended way to do a lot of things on a 100% run so that your world tendency didn't get wrecked. If anything, this is a fuckup on either Sony's part or From misunderstanding something about the way the new online infrastructure works.
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I was able to play fine on PS4 during an internet outage that lasted more than a day. It just said that it was unable to connect to the Playstation Network and it was starting in offline mode. Which was fine, because I was playing offline mode anyway since I'm not about to pay for Playstation+.
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Just get The Perfect Console™, The Nintendo Switch.
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Kwyndig posted:Any legal experts want to chime in on the legality of this asinine plan? IANAL however courtrooms usually have rules regarding what, if any, electronic devices are allowed. Considering that this is effectively providing legal counsel via a non-licensed party I can't imagine the judge being too happy about if it they aren't told in advance and give their blessing under the understanding of "if you gently caress up your case because you used this AI, that's not ground for an appeal." I think that Legal-focused AIs could be very useful for helping research arguments for a case since it could theoretically find other relevant cases and flag them to you both for your arguments and to prepare for counter arguments which could be a huge help to the nation's overworked public defenders. That is not what this company is trying to do though because it wouldn't get them the same amount of attention as this stupid stunt will. Lead out in cuffs posted:You know, you gotta imagine that someone, somewhere, is pitching the idea to venture capitalists of "Twitter, but with an actual content moderation and ad sales team, and without the narcissistic manchild or billion-dollar debt payments". Does Facebook have anything like it in the their app? Not the usual wall of update poo poo but a literal, shameless clone of Twitter but accessible to their billion+ daily users? If not, maybe they should've made that instead of set fire to billions of dollars making a VR miiverse but worse. BiggerBoat posted:OK fine. They're probably afraid that if they didn't have the always online component, people would just... not go online on their consoles and sell the physical copy while keeping access or something? Companies continue to worry about piracy while forgetting that all those hoops are what drive people to it.
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Several months ago, I couldn't play my PS4 digital copy of The Cruel King and the Great Hero without an internet connection. When my internet connection was down, trying to boot up the downloaded and installed game just didn't work, without any explanation or an error message - I tried repeatedly, and the game just hanged or crashed after the boot-up screen every time. When my internet connection came back up, I could play the game again. The Cruel King and the Great Hero is a single-player RPG with no online functionality at all (except for trophies, I guess) so I assume it's just an issue, intentional or not, caused by either the developer or by Sony.
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Souls games work just fine offline, in fact there's a few cases to be made in favor of playing only offline. All online functionality is replicated in one way or another. In Souls games it's not a core gameplay thing but From's vision for their games more generally. If you want to play online on a console you've gotta buy the online sub for the console, no escaping that except with couch co-op. They're closed, private, for-profit ecosystems and will do whatever they can get away with. The alternative is playing on PC. GamePass includes online for Xbox and you get loads of free* games to boot and is in the honeymoon phase where they still have to offer good value for the buck because the competitors aren't quite crushed yet. Switch gives you some old games as a reminder as to why we're all very glad we aren't in the NES era anymore and is like $12 a year. I've got a big stack of old install discs, some even for games where that's the only way to even find them anymore, but that era was dead even 2 console generations ago.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Coherent piece on ChatGPT vs Google. TLDR: there are no miracles, Google has just let search rot ever since their merger with DoubleClick. https://www.readmargins.com/p/google-vs-chatgpt-told-by-aglio-e quote:If generative AI tools make the internet a worse place for a bit, that will only be because we are used to a certain type of internet that is taxed by big tech and subsidized by ads. If we are inundated with even more spam, and our search result become even more useless, it’ll only mean that we should move past those business models. 'For a bit' and 'move past those business models', right. What kind of alternative business model would reduce the effectiveness of engagement-bait, or those dreadful 'frozen-elsa pregnant spider-man spinal surgery' youtube channels? What kind of business model would mean Facebook no longer had to be a gigantic, ungovernable, unaccountable data-harvesting apparatus? Obviously that's not going to happen, so we should ... get used to it? I feel that the author is blind to the fact that this is the Internet that 'big tech' wants. Your search result was a sea of ads? Great, that means someone's doing their job right, hopefully they'll convert you into a customer. Your recipe website popped something up over the text asking for your name and email? Fantastic, that means they get to send you more of what you want. What's the problem?
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