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Anti-Hero posted:Do the folks itt who order these chairs have an opportunity to sit in them beforehand? there's usually showrooms available and many workplaces orders these chairs in bulk like my workplace has a bunch of aerons and mirras (but no embodys unfortunately)
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BCRock posted:Thanks again for the feedback about chairs and guitar playing. I'm now deciding between the Embody and Gesture as my top 2 choices and I'd love a quick rundown of the major pros/cons of these two before I impulse buy one or the other. It has recently come to my attention that I am a manlet (thought I was 5'11 since HS, had that pointed out to be [no longer?] true recently, RIP me) so I won't have the best opinions for height. That being said, I've had extensive experience with both chairs now, so I feel qualified to type a bunch of words!  Gesture: Pros: • None • Just kidding • If you're a headrest guy, you can get it from the factory with a headrest!  • Arm mobility (not just out of the way, but iirc they move around to all sorts of positions. Nothing TOO crazy, but more than just up/down) • Something like 5-6 positions you can lock the back tilt in - all the way from straight vertical to quite far back Cons: • Lumbar support didn't really feel like it did much • Really one big one for me, but going to split it into two components: • The fabric felt too "smooth" • I still can't place exactly what the seat pan did, but it felt like it was always, ever-so-subtly, trying to slide me off the front of the chair and dump me onto the floor The last one was the dealbreaker for me. I sat in one for 1.5 years in the office and it always felt like I had to engage my quads to stop from sliding out of the chair. Sitting in it for more than like 20 minutes stopped being restful and eventually felt like work. Ostensibly the reclining mechanism had some sort of synchro-tilt but it definitely wasn't aggressive enough; I could see it (subtly) working in my co-workers' chairs but it sure didn't FEEL like it was doing anything. Also not that it matters but I never had the option to try the headrest. Ultimately, I did not really enjoy the Gesture and grew to dislike it. It DID make me use the sit-stand desk at work frequently, though, so who can truly say if it was good or bad? *insert Dril tweet here* Embody: Pros: • Everything • Not actually sure I'm joking there • Back support is phenomenal • Like, seriously, this is only the second chair I have ever sat in with good enough upper-back support that I can honestly say "Yeah, no, it doesn't need a headrest actually" • Tilt mechanism feels good (i.e. back of the seat pan drops an appropriate amount *glares at the Gesture*) • Arm Mobility (not as strong as the Gesture, but in addition to up and down with a large number of catch-points they tip in and out, towards/away from you; better than most chairs for sure) • It has a lot of settings but tbh the guy I bought it from had it dialed in well enough I haven't even bothered playing with them really Neutral: • Aftermarket manufacturers are starting to make headrests for it if that's your jam • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1o_22cYQLc Cons: • No first-party headrest • No, really, Herman-Miller, get off your loving high horse • The one aftermarket headrest I saw being advertised on YouTube was like $200; unknown what else is out there • Somehow that YouTuber also somehow managed to make a 30 minute video about a loving headrest but apparently he did bring a 6'3" person in to give their thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5BRAfAJQA I purchased a Cosm back in like August 2020 when it became apparent that I would be spending a LOT of time in my chair at home. Absolutely adored the thing and still really like it. Awhile later one of my close friends decided he needed to upgrade and after trying my Aeron-C for a month or so ended up deciding on an Embody. Back then, I wasn't impressed with the Embody when I tried it in the showroom, but he was happy so whatever. A year or so later, he found that he didn't like how the chair fit him - he's about my height, but broader in the shoulders and likes to put his hands behind his head while he's on calls and/or just thinking about whatever it is that Electrical Engineers think about (presumably daydreaming about the sweet release of death, like the rest of us). However, clasping his hands behind his head would cause his shoulderblades to pop out and rub on the side edge of the chair. (I suspect he had a habit of leaning sideways while doing this as well, given the feedback he had about the Cosm). Eventually he decided it wasn't going to work, I swapped him my Cosm for a month with the understanding that if he liked it and I liked the Embody, maybe we could trade or something. The Cosm wasn't quite for him either, but I had fallen in love with his stupid Embody and parted ways with too many of my USD friends for it. Now I have an expensive Herman Miller chair awkwardly lording its large mesh backrest over my spot at the dining room table . . . because I'm still using the Embody for WFH even after the Cosm was returned to me. Like I said, back support is phenomenal - literally feels like it is cradling you. (The Cosm is the same way - I've never felt back support on par with either of these chairs before.) Herman Miller is kinda obnoxious about how they feel like all their chairs are good enough and don't need headrests (so they don't make them) and . . . I have to begrudgingly admit that at least for the Cosm and Embody, they're probably actually right. I saw an ad for (what appeared to be) a pretty high-quality headrest for the Embody, but it was on preorder for like $189. So, yeah. I currently own an Embody because my buddy didn't like how the very edge/top of the backrest interacted with his frame. However, his issue was width rather than height. I'm afraid I don't have a clue how the back of this chair will fit those gifted with height, and/or if an aftermarket headrest would appreciably change that in any way, but for my average-height frame I'm a fan. I'm probably going to be slightly sad when I offer to sell one of my chairs to a friend next month and she inevitably picks the Embody  That's a lot of words, this post is terrible, but I'm tired of trying to make it suck less (and also just tired) so I hope it was at least somewhat useful! Zarin fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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Peachfart posted:I'm sitting in it now. I love it.
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TenementFunster posted:fedex and ups drivers are so loving overworked and every second of their shift is scrutinized to the point that special requests (especially for something as big as an embody) are often overloooked due to lack of time. i’m sure the nationwide expectation of 2-day Treat Delivery has made their lives hell FedEx Ground is a local contractor who pays poo poo while still being massively overworked. The FedEx Express guys are the direct FedEx employees and they get paid to drive those trucks even in Florida (the 20 year employee I talked to regularly in 2017 was pulling $40/hr with 4 weeks vacation and separate PTO which is p loving good for manual labor). So Express generally cares more. They’ll also make a second attempt to deliver if a signature is required. Source: me, a former oral (heh) oncology pharm tech who shipped $5-15m in drugs a day and dealt with FedEx for a living
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UPS is actually unionized, at least where I live. The drivers I've talked to still get worked to death and micromanaged to a ridiculously dehumanizing degree, but at least the pay and benefits are solid and at least the drivers with enough seniority can't be forced to work unscheduled overtime.
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We leave out a tray of snacks and drinks during holiday season for our delivery people and it seems to be a nice little thing for them. I encourage everyone to give that a shot if you live in an area where this would work. Chair talk, I think my only qualm so far is the embody gets hot with the fabric I chose. This could also just be from friction because I tend to shift around a lot in my chair and I realize this is a bad habit I need to curb.
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The delivery drivers around here know that they can fill up a water bottle if they want, or stop off to take a whizz.
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couldcareless posted:We leave out a tray of snacks and drinks during holiday season for our delivery people and it seems to be a nice little thing for them. I encourage everyone to give that a shot if you live in an area where this would work. I feel like moving around in the chair a lot is a good thing, though. Maybe just means you should get up and take a short walk every so often instead Good idea on leaving stuff out. My apartment building orders a lot of stuff, no reason I couldn't do something like that year-round.
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couldcareless posted:We leave out a tray of snacks and drinks during holiday season for our delivery people and it seems to be a nice little thing for them. I encourage everyone to give that a shot if you live in an area where this would work. I wish there was a mesh Embody for this reason, I am a warm person in a warm climate and that fabric is just a hard no-go 
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Unsinkabear posted:I wish there was a mesh Embody for this reason, I am a warm person in a warm climate and that fabric is just a hard no-go I’m in Florida and the fabric is Florida man approved (in that Florida man would regard it too highly to make makeshift drug paraphernalia out of it) Fix your ac, nerd 
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tehinternet posted:I’m in Florida and the fabric is Florida man approved (in that Florida man would regard it too highly to make makeshift drug paraphernalia out of it) From nola, apparently if you don't live in the gulf south, blasting your AC (or having AC at all) is potentially a totally foreign practice
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I rent, which means my apartment has a shitbox AC unit that floods and dies if I blast it, which means I die. We live at a permanent 75 freedom units in this house, even when the summer is at its shittiest and most humid and you want it cooler than that.
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The drain on that is nearly clogged then. Also buy a dehumidifier
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couldcareless posted:From nola, apparently if you don't live in the gulf south, blasting your AC (or having AC at all) is potentially a totally foreign practice I remember going up north to Pennsylvania in the summer the first time as a child and being floored that all houses didn’t have AC by default. It’s still a weird concept to me It was 100 degrees there and 85 back home in Florida because of loving course it was Unsinkabear posted:I rent, which means my apartment has a shitbox AC unit that floods and dies if I blast it, which means I die. We live at a permanent 75 freedom units in this house, even when the summer is at its shittiest and most humid and you want it cooler than that. Look up your model of AC (YouTube will probably have a video) and see where the drain pan is. Clear that poo poo out; it’s a super easy fix that will save you misery. When I say super easy, I mean it’s generally find pan, remove pan, dump poo poo water out, clean if needed, put back in. tehinternet fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jan 6, 2023 |
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The clog will be some years-old fluff with stagnant water backed up behind it, be prepared for it to stink
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tehinternet posted:Look up your model of AC (YouTube will probably have a video) and see where the drain pan is. Clear that poo poo out; it’s a super easy fix that will save you misery. Their AC guy has come out and done this a few times and I have no problem with doing it myself instead, but it's not a periodic problem. It happens every single time I try to drop the temp to 65 or whatever for sleep hygiene, or it has to run harder than usual to stay cool in the summer. There's something wrong with the way the drainage is set up that the AC guy grumbles about every time, which apparently would need to be fixed to actually stop this, but it's Greek to me. Good to know it's something I can just handle myself next time, though. brand engager posted:The drain on that is nearly clogged then. Also buy a dehumidifier This is probably the actual solution to the summer swampass problem anyway
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I've searched the forum, but I don't think this has been answered. I need to turn our spare bedroom into a semi-temporary office space. The room is used as a guest bedroom most weekends, so I have to set up and take down the office related stuff pretty frequently, and I need to be able to store it. The only available storage is a small closet, 22 inches deep, with a 28 inch doorway. My daily driver office chair is an Aeron, size B, so I'm fairly spoiled in terms of seating. I'd like something that's vaguely ergonomic, or that can be modded to be ergonomic (aftermarket lumbar support, etc.), but the absolute number 1 requirement is that it fit in the closet. What are my best options for a tiny chair that is also fairly comfortable and won't destroy my back? Because it's a temporary setup, I don't want to spend too much (under $200?) but if that's not a reasonable ask, I can cope.
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Can you get a Herman Miller Setu used for that sort of price?
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There's one on eBay for about $340, and it's from the same vendor that sold me my Aeron (refurb). I normally hate to jump on things without doing a lot more research or getting more opinions, but there's only one left in stock, and it's the right size, and (at the risk of being a brand snob) Herman Miller chairs are comfortable and last forever. Merry Christmas to me! Thank you!
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Hungry Squirrel posted:There's one on eBay for about $340, and it's from the same vendor that sold me my Aeron (refurb). I normally hate to jump on things without doing a lot more research or getting more opinions, but there's only one left in stock, and it's the right size, and (at the risk of being a brand snob) Herman Miller chairs are comfortable and last forever. Merry Christmas to me! Thank you! Let us know how it goes!
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If you need a way of setting an office up and putting it away again quickly then something like this is a good option - I would assume someone in the US is making similar sort of products https://pithandstem.com/droptop/
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Unsinkabear posted:Their AC guy has come out and done this a few times and I have no problem with doing it myself instead, but it's not a periodic problem. It happens every single time I try to drop the temp to 65 or whatever for sleep hygiene, or it has to run harder than usual to stay cool in the summer. There's something wrong with the way the drainage is set up that the AC guy grumbles about every time, which apparently would need to be fixed to actually stop this, but it's Greek to me. Some bleach poured down the drain can prevent the poo poo from clogging as quickly assuming it’s grime clogging it (make sure you don’t overflow the pan)— I’m honestly not sure how the drainage for an apartment block would work though. I’m in a house, I pour a cup of bleach every month or a two, but my drainage to the outside pipe is only like 50 feet of PVC, so YMMV there. Running your AC at 65 is the lowest I’ve heard of someone running it — what’s the ambient outside that you’re running it that low? This is more a curiosity thing, my family is in Florida and we keep it at 76. You mentioned sleep hygiene with that number; I hadn’t heard that before. Could I ask where you heard that? That would be interesting if true
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There have been some studies that indicate you get better sleep when the temperature is around 60 - 65 F: https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/features/cant-sleep-adjust-the-temperature
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:There have been some studies that indicate you get better sleep when the temperature is around 60 - 65 F: https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/features/cant-sleep-adjust-the-temperature I need it to be cold like that temperature to sleep, so agreed.
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I received the Herman Miller Mirra 2 Butterfly for my home office yesterday. Really glad my work has a budget for WFH- furniture. I feel like the chair was moulded for my body. I did not know that back support was a thing. The recline function is a dream.
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Turambar posted:I did not know that back support was a thing. The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > Computer chairs: I did not know that back support was a thing That was exactly my reaction the first time I sat in the chair I ended up buying, though. I'd had good chairs at some of the places I'd worked, sure, but nothing that stood out to me. When you finally find one that is what you're looking for . . . well, you'll just know.
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Just a heads up if anyone in the Las Vegas area is looking for a steelcase leap v2, New Life Office has a few left for $250. Pretty good price, but they are silver painted finish/light gray plastic with a gray geometric fabric so not to everyone’s taste. I paid an extra hundred for the all black version at a different store.
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Do we have a similar thread for desks? Where do I buy a good desk? I feel like everything I find on amazon/wayfair in the configuration I want is cheap particle board and real furniture stores like raymour and flanigan only sell giant mahogany things for $3k.
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i really love my uplift desk and it wasn't outrageously expensive for an electric sit/stand (although you can make them pricey with a lot of options)
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The best mid-price desks I've seen that are widely available are the Ikea Bekant. They're not office grade by any stretch but they are decent. A metal frame underneath the surface so they don't bounce around, if the top ends up getting destroyed then you can put your own sheet of wood on there without any trouble.
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Vari desk 30x60 is my pick for best sit stand desk. It’s very comparable to Uplift just a little less expensive. We do have a desktop thread I’ll edit and link it later. My desk was like $700 and is built like a tank, perfect Goldilocks of price and quality. It’s gonna be laminate at that price though. Real wood is gonna get you closer to $1k, but my fake top feels great and is maybe more durable than wood. Inner Light fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jan 21, 2023 |
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I found it, thanks for letting me know. Wasn't searching for the right thing I guess! I'll move my inquiry there.
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explosivo posted:Do we have a similar thread for desks? Where do I buy a good desk? I feel like everything I find on amazon/wayfair in the configuration I want is cheap particle board and real furniture stores like raymour and flanigan only sell giant mahogany things for $3k. I have an uplift desk for a long time and really liked it. Recently however, I found myself separating my work from home life from my leisure life and wanted to build up a gaming room. So my old uplift desk went to the office room and I ordered a new desk for the gaming room and after a lot of consideration I ended up going with Desk.haus and holy poo poo these things are amazing. Way more sturdy than my uplift ever was. To be clear both my uplift desk and my desk.haus desk are 4 leg versions. But the desk.haus has ZERO monitor wobble both sitting and upright. The legs are tanks! For the uplift desk I bought both the legs and desktop from them. For desk.haus desk I only purchased the legs from them. I had a custom desktop made from a local craftsman. I highly recommend both uplift and desk.haus but I really really like my desk.haus and I think they come out on top. xgalaxy fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jan 21, 2023 |
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Inner Light posted:Vari desk 30x60 is my pick for best sit stand desk. It’s very comparable to Uplift just a little less expensive. We do have a desktop thread I’ll edit and link it later. I just bought one of these today for 499 at a office furniture liquidation place. It’s for my wife’s home office as she wanted something adjustable and a little wider than the 48x30 Benkant desk she has now. It’s really nice especially at that price https://www.officefurnituresa.com/o...-standing-desk/
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skipdogg posted:I just bought one of these today for 499 at a office furniture liquidation place. It’s for my wife’s home office as she wanted something adjustable and a little wider than the 48x30 Benkant desk she has now. Yeah buddy!! That’s the same top I have, I’d prefer a solid pattern but it’s fine and the top is nice and durable  e: I was wondering why the price was a bit lower, it is a slightly older model, I don’t think their new ones have the crossbar or they sell different lines. But I would expect that to affect usability little for most people.
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The story they told me is that they’re new but can’t be sold as new. Either customer returns or sometimes they’ll get someone who canceled an order and they’ll liquidate it for them. For 500 bucks it’s way better quality than anything I could get from Amazon. Even IKEA would be more expensive. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was an older model. We also got 2 of the monitor arms for 30 bucks each. Retail is like 179. Can’t pass that up. The place I got it from is fun to visit their inventory changes almost daily and they do a daily Facebook live event. I saw Friday they had a bunch of adjustable desks come in so we went yesterday to snag one. Now I need to find one of those walking pads/treadmill things.
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Look for an office furniture liquidator in your area and ask what they have. Any new chair under $100 is going to suck after 6-12 months
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That sucks, I don't feel like chairs are worth $500-1500 either, unless one of them will last 20 years ($75/year of value out of a $1500 chair) I've used $500? chairs at work and those things last 2-3 years at best before there's something wrong with it. Maybe I should just get a wooden chair haha
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GreenBuckanneer posted:That sucks, I don't feel like chairs are worth $500-1500 either, unless one of them will last 20 years ($75/year of value out of a $1500 chair) In my mid-20s I worked in a machine shop; this meant that all our chairs were hand-me-downs from whenever the last time the office folks had a furniture refresh. Some of the better chairs out there were Herman Miller and Steelcase items nearly as old as I was. Chair price will tell you less than the warranty; most of the higher-end chairs in this thread are rated for 24/7/365 shift use and still carry a 12-year warranty. Generally this means if I use it anywhere between 4-12 hours a day, I can expect it to last longer than that. I just got a (gently-used) Embody and my expectation is that I will probably not be in the market for another chair for the next decade and a half (at minimum). Naturally, we'll see how this plays out but based on historical performance, it seems like a reasonable expectation to me.
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