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Some Guy TT posted:i think pop culture has really screwed up peoples perceptions about what artificial intelligence is capable of given how commonly everyone seems to think its even capable of interpretation at all yeah AIs will never misinterpret anything https://twitter.com/ciura_victor/status/1581613573960179712?lang=en
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 This has been the only bit of cultural footprint I've seen of the movie outside of Chapo calling Cameron the American Napoleon, wait theres also the picture of that Navii dressed up like an Operator so already more cultural purchase than the first movie
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Jan 23, 2023 07:04
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Want to see a more realistic killer robot movie where the robot is just trying and failing to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
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Jan 23, 2023 07:07
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operator navi and spider are two pretty good memes that you luckily don't need to watch the movie to appreciate
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Jan 23, 2023 07:08
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Trixie Hardcore posted:Want to see a more realistic killer robot movie where the robot is just trying and failing to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. you could probably find some OSHA videos about industrial robots, those fuckers have one task and they will do it no matter what weak human flesh interferes edit: 1stGear posted:are ai's the proletariat or bourgeoisie they are the hammer ymgve has issued a correction as of 07:17 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Jan 23, 2023 07:10
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are ai's the proletariat or bourgeoisie
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Jan 23, 2023 07:16
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😑 what’s going on with hideo this week       
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Jan 23, 2023 08:23
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mawarannahr posted:😑 what’s going on with hideo this week Seems like he's working as intended
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Jan 23, 2023 08:45
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Dasha from Red Scare is in a new movie with Jennifer Connolly that just premiered at Sundance 
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Jan 23, 2023 09:41
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Wizard Master posted:Dasha from Red Scare at some point she's probably going to be more well-known for being an actress than being a podcaster
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Jan 23, 2023 09:49
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Jan 23, 2023 10:47
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Some Guy TT posted:i think pop culture has really screwed up peoples perceptions about what artificial intelligence is capable of given how commonly everyone seems to think its even capable of interpretation at all ai isn't real, op
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Jan 23, 2023 10:51
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m3gan has just barely enough interesting ideas im wondering what the original script looked like before it became a generic killer robot flick youve got the main character who clearly doesnt want to deal with a kid refusing help from the grandparents because theyre vaguely weird so she can work for an obviously terrible company with a halfassed corporate espionage subplot but any notion that shes a flawed person who created the core problem of a grieving niece obsessively believing a toy robot is her only useful source of emotional support by being a lovely aunt is mostly undone by the robot basically being a magically superpowered psychopath
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Jan 23, 2023 11:50
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As someone who works with software for a living and in college struggled mightily to teach a robot to cross a room, I gotta say I always thought AI villains were kinda ridiculous, but I always appreciate when a movie recognizes its threat isn't that it'll rebel but that it'll follow orders no matter what That said lmao did they really program an AI to "eliminate threats" without clearly defining what threats it should care about or telling it murder isn't an acceptable way to do that or even giving it Asimov's Three loving Laws??? That's basically building a murder machine on purpose, it'd never clear a boardroom let alone QA
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Jan 23, 2023 13:46
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loquacius posted:That said lmao did they really program an AI to "eliminate threats" without clearly defining what threats it should care about or telling it murder isn't an acceptable way to do that or even giving it Asimov's Three loving Laws??? That's basically building a murder machine on purpose, it'd never clear a boardroom let alone QA Yes it would
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Jan 23, 2023 13:53
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Pretty much all AI movies are entirely Clarke's Law anyway, you just gotta roll with it
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Someone had to actively teach this AI that if you stick a knife into a person that person would no longer be able to threaten its owner, because otherwise it would not know this I haven't seen M3gan but clearly it is a movie about the importance of proper quality assurance in product development
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Jan 23, 2023 13:58
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mawarannahr posted:😑 what’s going on with hideo this week he's horny
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Jan 23, 2023 14:01
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Mr Hootington posted:Yes it would I'm actually not sure that creating a child companion robot that kills people at the drop of a hat would result in more personal profit for them than making sure it doesn't kill people would Like, the boardroom scenes in robocop made sense because they directly profit from generating as much violence as possible
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Jan 23, 2023 14:07
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loquacius posted:I'm actually not sure that creating a child companion robot that kills people at the drop of a hat would result in more personal profit for them than making sure it doesn't kill people would It would make more money if it killed. Look at tesla and American fear of people interacting with children. Anyway the movie is just a Small soldiers remake
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Jan 23, 2023 14:10
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If you could sell it as the doll killing home invaders or foreigners maybe but if it's gonna kill the kid's parents for working late they're probably not gonna wait in line to buy one
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Jan 23, 2023 14:18
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In the movie the robot is rushed and not properly tested because of corporate greed, it's the most grounded part
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Jan 23, 2023 14:19
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loquacius posted:If you could sell it as the doll killing home invaders or foreigners maybe but if it's gonna kill the kid's parents for working late they're probably not gonna wait in line to buy one if you have the tech, you just pivot to who you're marketing to. no furniture companies wanted to buy Jack Donaghy's extremely uncomfortable couch, but the Pentagon did because it was the perfect interrogation device.
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Riot Bimbo posted:Hail Caesar is good just for the priest/rabbi scene I forgot the studio is literally called "Capital"
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:In the movie the robot is rushed and not properly tested because of corporate greed, it's the most grounded part Well there you have it, that's the moral. Always test your products, and never purposely teach them what murder is and how to murder someone Like, to use a real-world example, Deep Blue was programmed to defeat Garry Kasparov at chess, and it could have accomplished this easily by stabbing him with a knife, but it didn't, and it wouldn't have even if it had arms and there were knives in the room, because it didn't know (a) what murder is, (b) what knives are, (c) that stabbing people with knives murders them, or (d) that murdered people cannot win chess games. All four of these rules would have had to have been purposely taught to it and integrated into its decision-making algorithms on purpose. Thus, the danger of AI isn't in household tools randomly becoming homicidal maniacs, but in Terminator-like pitiless war machines following their evil instructions to the letter. loquacius has issued a correction as of 15:09 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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loquacius posted:Well there you have it, that's the moral. Always test your products, and never purposely teach them what murder is and how to murder someone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STM_Kargu
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Jan 23, 2023 14:56
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This actually supports my point, it's a military drone programmed to explode people and, if you believe the UNSC's story rather than assuming its operator was the one who got overzealous, or that the operator fat-fingered the "go explode people" button and didn't want to get chewed out for it, went haywire simply by exploding people in an unexpected instance. The knowledge that people are explodable, that exploding them is the robot's mission, and of how to explode them was, in fact, programmed into it on purpose. e: like, this is the equivalent of a Howitzer going off by accident. Howitzers are dangerous enough when used on purpose that this isn't considered their main danger. loquacius has issued a correction as of 15:15 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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loquacius posted:As someone who works with software for a living and in college struggled mightily to teach a robot to cross a room, I gotta say I always thought AI villains were kinda ridiculous, but I always appreciate when a movie recognizes its threat isn't that it'll rebel but that it'll follow orders no matter what let me tell you about this genius inventor named Elon Musk and his amazing product Full Self-Driving
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mawarannahr posted:anyone watched this Wes craven ? I found out about it cause it used Penderecki on the soundtrack apparently People Under the Stairs is an amazing film and probably my favorite Craven flick, which is saying a lot. extremely CSPAM too
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:let me tell you about this genius inventor named Elon Musk and his amazing product Full Self-Driving The cars aren't purposely murdering children, they simply do not care that these obstacles are in their path when they are mercilessly, pitilessly, obsessively, Terminatorishly accomplishing their stated mission of "drive from point A to point B"
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I am getting the idea that people think I am making a pro-AI argument here, and let me tell you, if this were the case I would not be pointing to The Terminator, a movie franchise wherein human civilization is completely destroyed by intelligent machines, as a good example of the media trope
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:People Under the Stairs is an amazing film and probably my favorite Craven flick, which is saying a lot. I loved that movie when I was a kid
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loquacius posted:human civilization is completely destroyed loquacius posted:good
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Yeah, People Under The Stairs is a great starter horror flick for kids who may not be ready for scarier stuff yet. Plus it has a happy ending!
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i actually like alien for my evil ai go to reference mother isnt actively trying to kill the crew she just has a really stupid priority set that no one knows how to change because it was obviously designed to deal with random novelties not malicious murderous extraterrestrials
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the new episode of The Last of Us starts out really strong and it's pretty good throughout, the production quality is off the charts
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Filthy Hans posted:the new episode of The Last of Us starts out really strong and it's pretty good throughout, the production quality is off the charts they really nailed the "abandoned, overgrown with grime and reclaimed nature" vibe that was already impressive on the console for how detailed the environment was
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mawarannahr posted:anyone watched this Wes craven ? I found out about it cause it used Penderecki on the soundtrack apparently yes its super excellent, very highly recommended, one of my personal favorites
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My problem with The Last of Us, like any zombie fiction I guess, is that it's trivially easy to kill unarmed, foot-mobile targets. In a crisis that was considered existential, with the amount of ordnance that could be thrown around, and for something as fragile as a fungi, there's no reason CBRN weapons wouldn't be employed. It would still be bad, and I realize there's no plot if national militaries just flatten population centres during the first week, but the genre always makes it out like it's an unsurmountable problem when I'd expect a result about on par with Omdurman, even if the first day was more similar to Khartoum.
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me when creating this thread: give me the nerdiest references you have!!! me today: Frosted Flake posted:My problem with The Last of Us, like any zombie fiction I guess, is that it's trivially easy to kill unarmed, foot-mobile targets. In a crisis that was considered existential, with the amount of ordnance that could be thrown around, and for something as fragile as a fungi, there's no reason CBRN weapons wouldn't be employed. It would still be bad, and I realize there's no plot if national militaries just flatten population centres during the first week, but the genre always makes it out like it's an unsurmountable problem when I'd expect a result about on par with Omdurman, even if the first day was more similar to Khartoum. no thats too nerdy
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