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It'd be hilarious if the AJPW/DDT/DG representatives were all Naruki Doi. SG Bamboo posted:Ryuukyuu Dragon Pro-Wrestling
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Bonk posted:At last, New Japan fans can bask in the glory of Gurukun Mask. They'd better book Hibiscus Mii
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A great secondary part of the Kaito/Okada angle is that adds way more intrigue to the Shingo/Okada title match. Before I thought it was a lock Okada would retain but the angle and the schedule makes me think they may just have Shingo win.
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Kaveman posted:Will the NJPW x NOAH WK night 3 be put up on world for subscribers at any point? Yeah in a week
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El Generico posted:I'm definitely not that level of pure wrestling fan, sadly. I need some kind of character traits to grasp onto. Anyone telling you NOAH doesn't have characters is lying to you. It's not New Generation WWF with binmen and repomen and hitmen but we're not talking about a bunch of bland entities just pretend fighting either. It's puroresu, the characters sometimes might be a little subtler but you watch one Kenoh match and you understand that his character is he's an angry pissbaby with a chip on his shoulder bigger than he is. Katsuhiko Nakajima is a different kind of angry, he's vicious and cocky. Kaito Kiyomiya is the prodigy, youngest GHC HW champ ever. Go Shiozaki is the spirit of NOAH embodied, a man who's senpai was Kobashi but has grown into Misawa, the heart of the promotion. Almost everyone is in a unit. Kongo are kind of like early LIJ in the sense that they are heels but are very popular with a large segment of the crowd. And they are even like early LIJ in that members frequently are at ringside supporting their buds. Sugiuragun are a Takashi Sugiura's old buddies, many of who are legit shooters. Honestly, it's maybe a little less colourful than New Japan but it's barely noticeable.
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Lamuella posted:Actually struggling to think of anyone in Noah above the rookie level who is Just A Wrestler. A couple of the juniors maybe?
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:He used to want to be Misawa and now he wants to be Keiji Muto. last i saw of him outside of one mutoh match which i realize you can't judge by were a handful of stuff during his first reign. thought the kid while clearly talented was kinda boring compared to say nakajima, shiozaki or kenoh, and kinda reminded me of suzuki's statement contrasting moxley to competent boring grey blobs. obv presence and charisma often comes a bit later for a lot of people and i had no clue he had this amount of fire in him
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Thauros posted:last i saw of him outside of one mutoh match which i realize you can't judge by were a handful of stuff during his first reign. thought the kid while clearly talented was kinda boring compared to say nakajima, shiozaki or kenoh, and kinda reminded me of suzuki's statement contrasting moxley to competent boring grey blobs. This is a fair criticism, they put the belt on him a little before he was fully ready, but unlike some previous examples they really stuck with it rather than cancelling the reign (the benefit of business already being in the loo since the Suzukigun invasion ended) & he grew into the role so that by the time that he had his second defence with Kenoh & the Go Shiozaki match I felt it all clicked with him
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NOAH wrestlers have more flair than character and the majority don't have near the character that NJPW wrestlers do. You have to get pretty far down the card to find NJPW wrestlers who don't have a bunch of character stuff going on. edit: actually this is probably not true at all It's telling that most of the NOAH wrestlers had next to no vocal support in either of the Yokohama shows. If people are asking "Is this a cheering show?" regularly during a cheering show, the emotional hooks aren't in.
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there are a couple njpw characters you can say their gimmick is just a wrestler most notably Aron henare it’s getting impossible to stay up for these shows. watched everything but the kopw just cannot deal with this title sometimes The strong ep was pretty good imo lol @ rock getting booed
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baka fwocka fwame posted:there are a couple njpw characters you can say their gimmick is just a wrestler most notably Aron henare I realised I had gotten old when I was easier to wake up early to watch sports than it was to stay up all night
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With just over a day to go (January 24th, midnight Eastern), I'm making a final push for any last Top Ten lists for the Punch Sport Pagoda Top Ten Favorite Active Wrestlers of 2022 Thread. If you haven't already submitted a Top Ten, please do!
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I don't expect anyone has that much free wrestling time these days with all the dang supershows going on, but check out this 30-year-old Dome show if you have the time. It's a lot of fun with some wild matchups! 1. El Samurai & J J JACKS (Akira Nogami & Takayuki Iizuka) vs. Koki Kitahara, Masao Orihara & Nobukazu Hirai 2. Dustin Rhodes & Scott Norton vs. Masa Saito & Shinya Hashimoto 3. Sting vs. Hiroshi Hase 4. Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Takashi Ishikawa 5. Great Muta (c) vs. Masahiro Chono (c) (IWGP Heavyweight Title / NWA World Heavyweight Title Match) 6. Anti-Players Association (Akitoshi Saito, Masashi Aoyagi, Shiro Koshinaka & The Great Kabuki) vs. Raging Staff (Hiro Saito, Norio Honaga, Super Strong Machine & Tatsutoshi Goto) 7. Ron Simmons vs. Tony Halme 8. Ultimo Dragon (c) vs. Jushin Thunder Liger (IWGP Junior Heavyweight Title Match) 9. The Hell Raisers (Hawk Warrior & Power Warrior) (c) vs. The Steiner Brothers (Rick Steiner & Scott Steiner) (IWGP Tag Team Title Match) 10. Genichiro Tenryu vs. Riki Choshu
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Watching this Road to the New Beginning show mainly to see if Kiyomiya shows up to jump Okada
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fez_machine posted:feels a little like Taichi-gun No leaders, no bosses, Just Four Guys
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Could someone give me a quick cliff's notes of the stable situation now that Suzuki-Gun broke up? They were my favorite stable by a country mile, but it seems like maybe this could be a good thing for the various members? Or at least ZSJ.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Could someone give me a quick cliff's notes of the stable situation now that Suzuki-Gun broke up? They were my favorite stable by a country mile, but it seems like maybe this could be a good thing for the various members? Or at least ZSJ. Suzuki-gun broke up so that Suzuki could freshen up his act as a solo freelancer and New Japan could spotlight ZSJ more as the head of his own faction. ZSJ joined pre-existing faction "The Mighty Don't Kneel" which is made up of Commonwealth wrestlers except focusing on Australians rather than the U.K. unlike United Empire. TMDK has a long history being founded in 2010 and primarily revolving around the tag team of Shane Haste and Nick Miller. ZSJ has essentially taken it over and recruited firey young lion Kosei Fujita (presumably as a result of Bushiroad deciding to tinker with the Young Lion system and give them more character earlier). Everyone else essentially reformed Suzuki-Gun as a loosely aligned faction managed by Taka Michinoku that people have been calling Just Four Guys after Taka ended the big intro with that line. There's a logo for it but they weren't introduced under that name last night, instead being introduced individually. (As far as I can recall, I might have missed it. I was watching the Baka Gaijin 2 show simultaneously)
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Didn't Despy and Suzuki also have a brief team up with Narita? Did anything come of that? Despy's one of the ones I am most interested in. Hopefully this can be taken as a sign of trust/a coming push for Zack. Like how they gave Ospreay his own stable.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Didn't Despy and Suzuki also have a brief team up with Narita? Did anything come of that? Despy's one of the ones I am most interested in. Oh yeah, nothing's come of that so far. Despy didn't turn up on the latest show. So right now he's unaligned/aligned with Suzuki?
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Just 4 Guys is a real faction and has a logo. Narita/Suzuki/Desperado are challenging The House for the six man titles (or at least trying to, The House are saying the belts are retired because nobody was good enough to beat them). They’re teaming with Hontai guys in the Road to shows so aren’t their own thing yet https://twitter.com/k_shibata2022/status/1617905035635195905?s=46&t=CdMBXZhBbK2yBA-na9VgRw Article is the one announcing he was leaving NJPW the first time… GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jan 24, 2023 |
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Just 4 Guys is a real faction and has a logo. Just 4 Guys is real, they're strong, and they're my friends.
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fez_machine posted:lmao the English commentary's NJPW-bias They’re marks and I don’t respect it.
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fez_machine posted:ZSJ joined pre-existing faction "The Mighty Don't Kneel" which is made up of Commonwealth wrestlers except focusing on Australians rather than the U.K. unlike United Empire. TMDK has a long history being founded in 2010 and primarily revolving around the tag team of Shane Haste and Nick Miller. ZSJ has essentially taken it over and recruited firey young lion Kosei Fujita (presumably as a result of Bushiroad deciding to tinker with the Young Lion system and give them more character earlier). Also worth saying TMDK also includes JONAH who got a big push as a monster to fight Okada last year. He's back in WWE now as Bronson Reed but he'll presumably be back with the stable if/when Vince fires him again. And TMDK also has Bad Dude Tito who's kinda like a modern Dr. Death and is affectionately known to many as Big Teets
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House of Torture placing 9th on the ShuPro best unit fan vote makes me wonder where we've gone wrong as a society.
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Stall_19 posted:House of Torture placing 9th on the ShuPro best unit fan vote makes me wonder where we've gone wrong as a society. It's probably more appropriate for the general puro thread but stardom crushed the womens wrestling competition but even in general they did very well with cosmic angels finishing first in best unit beating out UE and oedo tai beating lij to 3rd Actually in the favourite wrestler category stardom had more wrestlers than even njpw in the top 10 with 5. Njpw had 4 with mutoh taking the last spot. Very good outing for stardom
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Stall_19 posted:House of Torture placing 9th on the ShuPro best unit fan vote makes me wonder where we've gone wrong as a society. Actually you have to add their points to the Bullet Club points so we can see that The House are in fact more popular than LIJ
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