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Mourning Due posted:Re office pod chat: Beer station, community bar, and "speakeasy"? If I wanted after work drinks you'd have them in a different building to work where the managers can't drop in. I like going into the office personally. I've got a good group of coworkers, and beyond that I can't give enough of a poo poo about work when at home to do my job, which is not great for being paid in the long term. Much easier to motivate myself work in the work space then just leave early if I want to slack
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forkboy84 posted:It's taken a month but I finally finished watching The Beatles: Get Back. I'm not the biggest Beatles fan and I kind of mocked the huge running time of 460 minutes plus seemed very indulgent. It's got a bit too much of the band noodling away on some classic and less-than-classic pieces towards the end which presumably appeals to the hardcore fans, but as a similar non-Beatles enthusiast I really loved it anyway. The restoration work is absolutely stunning. Sergeant Skullcracker turning up at the end and inviting himself upstairs is also very funny.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I kind of thought wework had gone bankrupt, they always seemed to be in the business of providing adult creches rather than office space and I never understood how their company came to be worth so much before it all went bad. It seems it didn't go bankrupt it just pissed away a poo poo-ton of money due to the pandemic  and then money stopped being fake and their debts became a real issue, just in time to become a public company
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josh04 posted:It's got a bit too much of the band noodling away on some classic and less-than-classic pieces towards the end which presumably appeals to the hardcore fans, but as a similar non-Beatles enthusiast I really loved it anyway. The restoration work is absolutely stunning. Sergeant Skullcracker turning up at the end and inviting himself upstairs is also very funny. See, I quite liked when the band would just break into jamming away into Blue Suede Shoes & Tutti Fruiti, it was all very human. The whole atmosphere was quite jovial at times like that, considering how dysfunctional the Let It Be sessions were by reputation. Maybe the 85th time they do that is excessive though...I did get a kick out of how insane Paul made everyone just repeatedly insisting they do Maxwell's Silver Hammer over & over & over, that poo poo ruled. Because as much as I have a guilty pleasure feeling for Maxwell it is really not worth that much hassle. I did see one criticism that Jackson went too far in painting the sessions as jovial considering George hosed off at one point and John was seemingly in the depths of his heroin phase and you'd never know that from the film. But then I suppose that's the limitations of using old footage, if Harrison walks out then there's clearly no footage. Lennon wasn't snorting heroin at the studio. I feel like if all 3 episodes were the rough length of the final one I'd be happier. But then I'd not want to cut the bit of them laughing around at the story in the paper of George assaulting a photographer or things like that
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forkboy84 posted:I feel like if all 3 episodes Wait what? Can this motherfucker make anything without turning it into a trilogy anymore?
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OwlFancier posted:Not that I've ever worked in an office but it feels a lot of the time like working retail gives you less of a sense of exposure than most of the open plan spaces I've seen, because you're usually working on an area of the store by yourself and left to get on with it, and everyone's too busy to pay much attention to you. I've worked in a few offices as they've grown and shrunk with staff volumes and there's a weird set of dynamics at play. When small (say about 20 people or less) the office was silent, everyone had headphones on and got on with stuff. Whenever the bosses left the room, chat would begin like it was all bottled up, almost as if the teacher was away. When it got to about 50, the background chatter was almost always there irrespective of the bosses presence or not. In 1500 or more, it was like being out on the street, but at that point the place is so large I think most people wouldn't know who's senior or not. I got the most work done in that first environment, despite the (often) days of silence being a bit soul crushing.
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Kin posted:Whenever the bosses left the room, chat would begin like it was all bottled up, almost as if the teacher was away. A game of statues but for socialisation.
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Waiting for Bad Taste Trilogy.
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Tesseraction posted:Wait what? Can this motherfucker make anything without turning it into a trilogy anymore? Not in the last 25 years. I'd be morbidly curious to see modern Jackson do his fun early horror films and turn them into epics.
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One place I worked in an open plan office doing detailed analytical work requiring considerable concentration, our bank of desks were placed directly behind the health and safety team desks and boy did their team leader love the sound of his own voice all day on the phone playing the Mr God Do What I Say thing. Nightmare. I bought a pair of orange ear defenders and told people if I'm wearing these do not interrupt unless loss of life is imminent. Otherwise your loss of life may be imminent! Also Control were another lot juggling 3 phones each and yelling and they were just across the floor from us. Whoever was responsible for desk planning patently had no idea of why analysts need silence (or headphones to blot out other people's noise).
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Pistol_Pete posted:I kind of thought wework had gone bankrupt, they always seemed to be in the business of providing adult creches rather than office space and I never understood how their company came to be worth so much before it all went bad. There’s a good book about it called Billion Dollar Loser explaining it all (it’s a lot of fraud)
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I want silence when I'm working and resented being driven to buying and using noise cancelling earphones when I worked in an office. I didn't want to be listening to music. The absolute worst thing was when some oval office used to put the loving radio on. Now I work from home and my wife does too, I am treated to her speaking to victims of domestic abuse all day. Hearing how she is with them makes me so immensely proud and validates how I'd always assumed she was at work, but by god it gets depressing fast. I don't like closing the door to my office but that's what I end up having to do (first world problems). In terms of how offices are these days, I used to do a lot of work for a serviced office provider, designing networks for them. They got the balance just right in my opinion - nice looking spaces, perks (free staffed coffee thing in the foyer) without gimmicks (like loving slides or ball pits, gently caress off), functional design with normal desks, varieties of collaboration spaces, etc. Also some were in incredibly nice places. Going to their sites is one of very few things I miss about offices, it was one of the few ways I could be completely out of reach of my actual colleagues so I could focus. 
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when I was a phone drone for the dwp back in '06, initially the rules were that if the phones were slow or the system was down it was entirely permissible to pull out a book, listen to some music or generally do whatever provided it didn't disturb anyone and you were always ready for a call if needed, use of the internet for things like paying bills or reading the news was encouraged some high level shitheel from whitehall got shown around a call centre a month or two before I left and was horrified by the prospect of staff not working constantly, and the new directive was "no downtime, you stuff envelopes with letters even though we have machines for that and if you run out of pointless busywork you will sit at your desk and stare at nothing and like it" they couldn't have hosed with productivity or morale in a more rapid manner if they had tried and I was even more glad to be out of there
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DesperateDan posted:when I was a phone drone for the dwp back in '06, initially the rules were that if the phones were slow or the system was down it was entirely permissible to pull out a book, listen to some music or generally do whatever provided it didn't disturb anyone and you were always ready for a call if needed, use of the internet for things like paying bills or reading the news was encouraged This stuff rules. I was in a call centre run by Capita on behalf of the website for a high Street retailer and likewise they were cretins who hated it when you did nothing, even though there was nothing to do when the phone wasn't ringing. It's so pointless, you know when the client is visiting, just loving ask people not to mess around when they are on-site, people get that. But nah, make it so people just stare blankly at the screen and totally Zone out, genius management. loving hated that job
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office work is the worst, especially when personalities start to clash. The obnoxious dickhead who thinks everyone wants to hear his anecdotes over a mix of garage anthems vol.3 Vs. the miserable shitbag bootlicker who wants everyone to toil away in silence to please the overlord.
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A Shakespearian Tragedy… https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/1618190787875082241?s=46&t=0AfDu-q5myVsV6j6AH-e9Q
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I took a 20% paycut post-covid when I accepted a job that’s full time from home rather than one with a fifteen mile commute, and office based. By far and away the best decision I’ve ever made, probably the most significant quality of life increase I’ve ever had. Would not go back to office work now for twice that salary difference.
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DesperateDan posted:when I was a phone drone for the dwp back in '06, initially the rules were that if the phones were slow or the system was down it was entirely permissible to pull out a book, listen to some music or generally do whatever provided it didn't disturb anyone and you were always ready for a call if needed, use of the internet for things like paying bills or reading the news was encouraged Has this as well. In the rare times when our ticket queue was clear we would talk, surf, youtube, quick cig, etc. Then had the same thing from up high, we could only spend our time reviewing our policies, nothing else. Didn't last long, some of the middle managers were affected and complained. One thing that did gently caress us over for a long time was 'no meeting friday'. No meetings, gives you more time for your projects and sort out your email! More like it was a three day week for managers. We would be there on fridays, needing a decision to be made, and had to wait 3 days for it. Ended up no one did any essential critical work on friday, and the management wondered why things were slower in the end. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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WeWorkers, don't be a big ol' square and read a book, watch WeCrashed instead. It's on AppleTV+. Don't  it though, because THAT'S ILLEGAL and I would not want you to get into trouble.In other news, looks like that cartoon guy that you like has got himself into a bit of a pickle. https://twitter.com/RickandMorty/status/1618009508420386817 Sanford posted:I took a 20% paycut post-covid when I accepted a job that’s full time from home rather than one with a fifteen mile commute, and office based. By far and away the best decision I’ve ever made, probably the most significant quality of life increase I’ve ever had. Would not go back to office work now for twice that salary difference.
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The idea of Rick & Morty without the guy who does the voice of Rick & Morty has me curious enough to watch that show for the first time since season 4
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Only Kindness posted:In other news, looks like that cartoon guy that you like has got himself into a bit of a pickle. Ho ho I see what you did there
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Sanford posted:I took a 20% paycut post-covid when I accepted a job that’s full time from home rather than one with a fifteen mile commute, and office based. By far and away the best decision I’ve ever made, probably the most significant quality of life increase I’ve ever had. Would not go back to office work now for twice that salary difference. Might be confusing you with someone else but I vaguely remember you having an obnoxious boss who refused to acknowledge the existence of covid restrictions when things started kicking off back in 2020, good to hear you have escaped
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forkboy84 posted:The idea of Rick & Morty without the guy who does the voice of Rick & Morty has me curious enough to watch that show for the first time since season 4 This is where I learned there's more after season 4.
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That's what gets me about these spyware 'productivity' apps some employers are installing - seem to be of the belief that work only happens if your mouse is moving in a document. No accounting for thinking time. Last week I was mulling over the best way to tackle an issue for around 3 days while doing non work stuff. Ok so I wasn't at the coalface as it were but by thinking it through before jumping in have probably saved many hours of abortive attempts. (My employer does NOT use spyware - I downloaded a piece myself to see what gives after reading about a woman's wrongful dismissal case being dismissed because the company spyware didn't show her actively at her pc for however many hours.)
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Angepain posted:Might be confusing you with someone else but I vaguely remember you having an obnoxious boss who refused to acknowledge the existence of covid restrictions when things started kicking off back in 2020, good to hear you have escaped I believe this was the finance director who just plain had wrong opinions about absolutely loving everything.
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Can't wait for rick and morty to do a Simpsons and just carry on for 30+ seasons getting worse and worse while still somehow remaining just profitable enough to never get cancelled
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gently caress Rick & Morty, I hope they can recast Solar Opposites too and not just kill that off.
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https://twitter.com/andrewfeinstein/status/1618193619592318976 My apples, they keep getting rotten
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:That's what gets me about these spyware 'productivity' apps some employers are installing - seem to be of the belief that work only happens if your mouse is moving in a document. No accounting for thinking time. Last week I was mulling over the best way to tackle an issue for around 3 days while doing no work stuff. Ok so I wasn't at the coalface as it were but by thinking it through before jumping in have probably saved many hours of abortive attempts. My last employer used one of these systems and it didn’t start logging ‘idle’ time until it had been completely untouched for 3 minutes. Jiggle your mouse even a little bit at least once every 3 minutes and you are 100% productive.
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Only Kindness posted:In other news, looks like that cartoon guy that you like has got himself into a bit of a pickle. I turned myself into a sex offender Morty! I'm prison Rick!
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Only Kindness posted:It is true. You feel eight feet tall. Simply getting back >2 hours out of every day just feels fantastic all on its own, never mind the money saved on transport etc. And having a loving cooker at lunch time. Tomorrow my lunch sandwich will be on freshly baked bread.
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Angepain posted:Can't wait for rick and morty to do a Simpsons and just carry on for 30+ seasons getting worse and worse while still somehow remaining just profitable enough to never get cancelled When I catch a random Simpsons episode on Sunday morning Channel 4 I don't really think the new stuff is that awful. It's passable background noise while eating breakfast
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Microplastics posted:Ho ho I see what you did there History Comes Inside! posted:gently caress Rick & Morty, I hope they can recast Solar Opposites too and not just kill that off. History Comes Inside! posted:Jiggle your mouse even a little bit at least once every 3 minutes and you are 100% productive. ISTR the Fibbies or whoever, first thing they do when raiding a place is stick USB keep-mouse-alive dongles into every slot they can, to avoid screenlock or dead man's switch type scenarios. Get one of them dongles.
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forkboy84 posted:See, I quite liked when the band would just break into jamming away into Blue Suede Shoes & Tutti Fruiti, it was all very human. The whole atmosphere was quite jovial at times like that, considering how dysfunctional the Let It Be sessions were by reputation. Maybe the 85th time they do that is excessive though...I did get a kick out of how insane Paul made everyone just repeatedly insisting they do Maxwell's Silver Hammer over & over & over, that poo poo ruled. Because as much as I have a guilty pleasure feeling for Maxwell it is really not worth that much hassle. The jamming was great, I was just sick to my gills of hearing the full length of "Get Back" by the end. I don't think Lennon being off his face is particularly subtle, especially in the first half. When he's a bit more lucid later on you kinda get why everyone was floundering so much without him. There's so much footage I'm not sure it'd be possible to hide any extra nastiness going on. They all just seem burned out. Maybe things got a bit more sour after the fact.
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Tesseraction posted:Did you really not mean to make a pickle rick reference lol Two fish with the same hook, a world record.
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josh04 posted:The jamming was great, I was just sick to my gills of hearing the full length of "Get Back" by the end. I don't think Lennon being off his face is particularly subtle, especially in the first half. When he's a bit more lucid later on you kinda get why everyone was floundering so much without him. TBH I was disappointed we didn't get more Dig A Pony. Beatles Rock Band is probably what made me really appreciate a lot of Let It Be tracks like that one and I Me Mine. Beatles Rock Band was really great.
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There are definitely apps or even a basic AutoHotKey program you can run that jiggle the mouse for you. There are also a million pitch-perfect Rick and Morty impersonators out there, they're not particularly difficult voices to do, so I imagine they'll just replace their voices and have done with it.
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If your boss is spyware-ing you up and thinks you're not jiggling your mouse enough, any complaints, you just tell them you're doing knowledge-based work. Since it's actually true, this advice is both priceless and worth what you paid for it ($0), cos if they're disrespecting you to that degree already, you owe them nothing back but insouciance. Become ungovernable. At some point your company will just drop the spyware thing once they realise it adds nothing but cost and buggeration.
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