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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



gradenko_2000 posted:

the Germans are sending fourteen tanks to Ukraine

one for each word

drat

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
When reached for comment, Ukrainian officials claimed rumors that Azov regiment armourers were planning to retrofit Leopard 2s with 88mm cannon was "coincidental"

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
oh my god she said it!

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1618224623484809217?s=20

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

joe biden promises massive aide to ukraines fighting wars in underrepresented communities with pell grants and making less than 200% of the poverty line

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Looks like the Russians have taken Soledar.

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

joe biden promises massive aide to ukraines fighting wars in underrepresented communities with pell grants and making less than 200% of the poverty line

$2000 $1400 dollar checks for every ukrainian conscript

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
news that sounds cool but probably wont amount to much

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1618226981430243330?s=20

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Pistol_Pete posted:

Looks like the Russians have taken Soledar.

wow, a post from two weeks ago

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Comrade Koba posted:

$2000 $1400 dollar checks for every ukrainian conscript

listen Mac, if you take the 14 Bradleys we already sent, and add another 6 Abrams to that, that's 20 tanks

its just math

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Al-Saqr posted:

news that sounds cool but probably wont amount to much

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1618226981430243330?s=20

yes but 14 leopard tanks will change the face of the war.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1617826030877802496?t=aWrhYruhIqAcj3zlXjSxHg

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Pistol_Pete posted:

Looks like the Russians have taken Soledar.

they must return soledar obrien. she is a national treasure

speng31b
May 8, 2010

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1618196457420656641

lol

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1618019965923373059

unskew

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1618068194966786048

very generous.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
im gonna post kamil galeev threads as facts

this is ur final warning

Al-Saqr posted:

russia is gonna try to buy out the entire taliban stock of abandoned american weapons

https://twitter.com/mikecirullomike/status/1617980319612932096?s=46&t=haLI7gFyT8NouHwp-UO6nw

this would be dope lol

OctaMurk has issued a correction as of 14:27 on Jan 25, 2023

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Oh my god hes right

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

crepeface posted:

it's not without precedent either, the US planned to coup Chiang Kai Shek and replace him with one of his generals when he hosed up too much

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Oh my god hes right

he's right

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1618247531552727040

speng31b
May 8, 2010

https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-tanks-taiwan-china-ukraine-war-russia-11674492826



lmao

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

gradenko_2000 posted:

the Germans are sending fourteen tanks to Ukraine

one for each word

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

gradenko_2000 posted:

the Germans are sending fourteen tanks to Ukraine

one for each word

lol

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Russia better watch out in 2026

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

They counted only those buried in Russian cemeteries at ~60 specific settlements, and estimate that number to be 40-60% of the total Russian regular forces killed. So 20k-30k at minimum, and this doesn't include separatists or Wagner. I guess that's one way of underselling your losses.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Zodium posted:

I don't really know enough about tanks to have a favorite tbh

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Leandros posted:

They counted only those buried in Russian cemeteries at ~60 specific settlements, and estimate that number to be 40-60% of the total Russian regular forces killed. So 20k-30k at minimum, and this doesn't include separatists or Wagner. I guess that's one way of underselling your losses.

i've seen 25k-35k for russian losses being thrown around, THEE ukraine's losses at around the same? by all looks, this war has been an absolute meatgrinder for both sides

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
How the gently caress are we going to source export-ready Abrams? AFAIK we don't have any on-hand and I don't think that General Dynamics can tool up and start rolling them off the lines in less than a year.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Zeroisanumber posted:

How the gently caress are we going to source export-ready Abrams? AFAIK we don't have any on-hand and I don't think that General Dynamics can tool up and start rolling them off the lines in less than a year.

probably same way as that patriot battery

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Yeah they gave 10k last month since they are looking at public data, but don't give a strong reason why it would be only 40-60% of the total. In total, it would be about 10-12k dead and 30-35k wounded from available data. Btw, the Mediazone survey includes everything from social media, local media, offical reports, to photographs and data from military cemeteries.

Also, the may be other issues with the data such as 4 general are claimed dead, but only 2 regular army generals have been publically confirmed while another retired general and they also killed a separatist general. So it is unclear if some data is leaking over, especially if for example if separtists are buried in Russian territory, also Wagner data is unclear.

lollontee posted:

i've seen 25k-35k for russian losses being thrown around, THEE ukraine's losses at around the same? by all looks, this war has been an absolute meatgrinder for both sides

They are likely very high all things considered, there is really no way to say for certain, probably a couple times higher. The problem is the Ukrainian government has been very closed lipped about losses.

That said, it seems since late spring 2022 that more and more of the losses have been on the Ukrainian side as artillery has come into play.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Jan 25, 2023

speng31b
May 8, 2010

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/25/russia-denounces-germany-over-dangerous-tanks-decision

quote:

Moscow has slammed Berlin’s move to supply Ukraine with battle tanks and accused Germany of abandoning its “historical responsibility to Russia” arising from Nazi crimes in World War II.

they're right

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
June 21, 1941: Germany to send tanks to Ukraine

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

gradenko_2000 posted:

the Germans are sending fourteen tanks to Ukraine

one for each word

Presumably shipped with 88 rounds each.

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

Endman posted:

I didn’t read the last 120 posts since tank chat, what’s going on?


or more importantly, what’s everyone’s favourite tank?

mine is the Valentine :^)

Any of Hobart's Funnies will do. I'm partial to the Crocodile :supaburn:

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

the Germans are sending fourteen tanks to Ukraine

one for each word

thats for now. rheinmetall says they could refurbish another 88 by the end of the year

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Russia losing that many makes there current more conservative approach make sense

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
wtf are slavic eyes

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Zeroisanumber posted:

How the gently caress are we going to source export-ready Abrams? AFAIK we don't have any on-hand and I don't think that General Dynamics can tool up and start rolling them off the lines in less than a year.

apparently theyre going to source and refurbish abrams from allied countries

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1618237369869815810

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
Man it's hard to place losses from modern warfare in the same reality as what was going on 80 years ago.. You read so much cope about how Russia is nearing their breaking point with 30,000 to 40,000 casualties in a year and then wikipedia tells you that like 600,000 Russian soldiers got surrounded and surrendered around Kiev one week back in WW2.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

euphronius posted:

Russia losing that many makes there current more conservative approach make sense

Supposedly, according to mediazone data, the death rate has been dropping pretty steadily they were losing about 400 a week during the initial invasion, 150-200 in the Spring 2022, and it down to 50-70 a week now, so yeah their ability to keep numbers down has certainly improved. I think a lot of it is just the reduced capabilities of the Ukrainian army which initially was able to put up a strong fight but over time has been atrophying a lot of that is probably down to artillery (and just how chaotic the initial invasion was).

But I would say the original data Mediazone is pretty extensive if they are not only utilizing official reports, cemetery data, local reports but also social media posts and photographs. It is hard to keep a lid over all of that.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 17:15 on Jan 25, 2023

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
that death rate seems pretty disastrous for the russian army no wonder they havent been able to do any big offensives for a while.

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