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Very meaningful Jan 6 pretrial ruling just dropped: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1618076561269493761 https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1618079711145635840 Some of it is various levels of  no from the judge, such as the motion to transfer venue:quote:Defendant next argues that the “events of January 6 have impacted D.C. residents much more directly than persons outside the District,” such that “the aftershocks of January 6 continue to reverberate.” This is unpersuasive, as surely most crimes “more directly” impact the local area than elsewhere Or the motion to dismiss counts 1 & 2 quote:The Court declines to ignore the plain text of the statute in favor of such a “counter-intuitive" result. The meat, which I'm still working through how I feel about, starts on page 36 and covers the motion to suppress the geofence evidence. Broadly, I think this is a real lovely set of facts to challenge the warrant on. As the tweet notes, the motion to suppress was denied. I do wish Justice, more than the judge, had gone further with distinguishing this warrant from the past and future abusive geofence warrants.
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Jan 25, 2023 05:20
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Paracaidas posted:Very meaningful Jan 6 pretrial ruling just dropped: Whatever your intentions, if you are attending a march or protest, at minimum do not bring a phone
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Jan 25, 2023 05:22
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Name Change posted:Whatever your intentions, if you are attending a march or protest, at minimum do not bring a phone Yeah I'm not seeing this as anything other than a massive expansion of the allowable encroachment on your 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment rights. This is the likely last time this legal precedent will be used against the Right.
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Jan 25, 2023 08:59
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FlamingLiberal posted:Trump is going to destroy DeSantis in a debate. DeSantis totally froze last year on stage when Charlie Crist asked him if he would commit to not running for President in 2024. Trump from 2016 would have effortlessly destroyed him. I'm not confident that a 78 year old Trump with covid brain in 2024 will destroy him. Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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Jan 25, 2023 11:59
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FlamingLiberal posted:Trump is going to destroy DeSantis in a debate. DeSantis totally froze last year on stage when Charlie Crist asked him if he would commit to not running for President in 2024. So Crist won, right?
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Jan 25, 2023 12:10
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Not fair, McCarthy's going to spoil the fun. https://twitter.com/axios/status/1618053796524851202 quote:House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on Tuesday told reporters he opposes legislation to abolish the IRS and replace federal taxes with a 30% sales tax. Was looking forward to more GOP own goals.
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Jan 25, 2023 12:31
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Automata 10 Pack posted:if you’re a bully, you care about hierarchies and dominating others, and if you care about those things you’re going to be a Republican. if you somehow aren’t, then you are an incompetent bully. LBJ was a bully and his domestic policy was pretty good.
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Jan 25, 2023 12:40
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Charlz Guybon posted:Trump from 2016 would hqve effortlessly destroyed him. I'm not confident that a 78 year old Trump with covid brain in 2024 will destroy him. DeSantis is all but incapable of responding to any level of push back, and ran terrified from a primary fight with Marco Rubio in 2016. Dude would be destroyed by Dan Quayle. Which wouldn't normally matter, except DeSantis is coasting entirely on being a big strong man that all the chuds have heard about, but never actually seen in action. His performance in the debates will be his actual introduction to residents of 48.5 states. Melting down and freezing like a deer in headlights would be a performance only slightly better than whatever dumbfuck it was in 2016 who opened the first debate by displaying their ability to speak Mandarin. Lib and let die posted:So Crist won, right? Charlie Crist has had a perfect record in statewide elections for well over a decade.
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Jan 25, 2023 12:48
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-Blackadder- posted:Not fair, McCarthy's going to spoil the fun. So who had "Before the end of January" as the first call to replace the Speaker?
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Jan 25, 2023 13:59
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Boehner was the day drinking Speaker because of dumb poo poo like this right? Wonder what McCarthy will do to deal with it. There's even more crazy in the party with a tighter margin now, so, ha.
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Jan 25, 2023 14:04
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Gyges posted:
This gets brought up a lot but hasn't it been pretty well established that debate performances don't meaningful move the needle for candidates one way or the other? The only one in my lifetime that I can remember just really tanking someone's chances was the VP debate with Admiral Stockdale way back in the 90's. And I don't even really think that Trump "dominated" or destroyed everyone in his debates either so much as all the other idiots on stage split their following, since they all sucked, and Donald hoovered up support from the rest who wanted a new and different "outsider" who was not establishment and who would "tell it like it is". GOP voters knew their candidates sucked and, in addition to being a household name, Trump was just there to be the fresh new model of modern conservatism born of talk radio and what not. Donald doesn't have that anymore and will have to hope that his dug in, rock solid, hardline cult of supporters is enough. If there are fewer candidates this time, that's gonna be more difficult to rely on. I think that DeSantis looks like a genuine threat to win the nom and even the election.
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Jan 25, 2023 14:08
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BiggerBoat posted:This gets brought up a lot but hasn't it been pretty well established that debate performances don't meaningful move the needle for candidates one way or the other? You're thinking of general election debates. They can matter an awful lot in primaries where the differences between candidates can't just be their position on a topic.
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Jan 25, 2023 14:15
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quote:…virtually anyone who stepped inside the geofence had broken the law. How to get from “virtually everyone” to one in three?
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Jan 25, 2023 14:25
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smackfu posted:How to get from “virtually everyone” to one in three? I thought they said they weren't prosecuting anyone who didn't actually enter the building. It's possible they removed anyone on the edges that were in the margin of error. Edit: actually, considering that it's talking about cutting down the list of devices, it could just be removing redundant entries (do you really need someone's cellphone and smart watch to show they were there?) Randalor fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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Jan 25, 2023 14:28
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Yawgmoft posted:You're thinking of general election debates. They can matter an awful lot in primaries where the differences between candidates can't just be their position on a topic. Yeah in 2016 Chris Christie knocked out Rubio all by himself in one of the debates, charisma matters when there’s 8+ folks on stage The real question is will there be another GOP primary clown car or are folks going to give trump a wide berth. I don’t see desantis scaring off challengers. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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Jan 25, 2023 14:52
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BiggerBoat posted:This gets brought up a lot but hasn't it been pretty well established that debate performances don't meaningful move the needle for candidates one way or the other? The only one in my lifetime that I can remember just really tanking someone's chances was the VP debate with Admiral Stockdale way back in the 90's. Debates will never really HELP you regardless of how well you do personally, but not attending or bombing the debate can HURT your chances
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Jan 25, 2023 15:29
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smackfu posted:How to get from “virtually everyone” to one in three? Starting numbers also included people who work in the capitol perhaps?
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Jan 25, 2023 15:32
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is that actually the case though? From all the posts here, it sounds like they don't. It's actually pretty hard to get your security clearance revoked or punished for mishandling documents if you are honest about it. They actually have a giant public list of all the security clearance hearings they have and some of them are pretty wild. This guy was approved to keep his clearance because he was honest in his testimony and was seeking therapy: quote:Within the next few months, Applicant purchased a firearm, a pistol, and took the required safety course, which included firing the weapon. He never purchased ammunition for the firearm and never fired it again. He told his spouse he bought the firearm because he knew doing so would upset her. Buying the firearm was part of a revenge fantasy of taking action against his spouse’s paramour that preoccupied Applicant for the next couple of years. In addition to buying the firearm, it included grave digging (two graves located in the woods), buying a cutting tool, and buying a canvas to wrap the body.
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Jan 25, 2023 15:53
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's actually pretty hard to get your security clearance revoked or punished for mishandling documents if you are honest about it. 1. I love reading those 2. The classification system is all kinds of hosed up 3. That dude should not be part of a system where trust and judgment are required and if you must have a system like the one we do (you don’t, but you do in an era of failing institutions if you don’t want to respond to structural and political pressure in a meaningful way) then that dude should absolutely not be inside the circle of trust lmao
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Jan 25, 2023 16:07
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Levitate posted:Starting numbers also included people who work in the capitol perhaps? 5700 minus 1500 means 4200, which would be ~7 for every elected representative plus the VP there to do the certification. Not an unreasonable assumption.
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Jan 25, 2023 16:10
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We should actually trust people who do seek help and show consistency.
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Jan 25, 2023 16:11
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Vahakyla posted:We should actually trust people who do seek help and show consistency. At a certain point you gotta be like “sorry man that’s too weird for us” and if getting your whole wifemurder scenario lined up and cooking isn’t that line for people I gotta ask what the gently caress
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Jan 25, 2023 16:14
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Charlz Guybon posted:LBJ was a bully and his domestic policy was pretty good. He was also a somewhat Southern democrat before Tricky Dick did the whole Southern Strategy thing. But despite being a sex-pest and a bully, it was a fascinating transformation of US domestic policy that transpired under his term. Right after Kennedy got his brain shot out, everyone was sort of feeling a national consensus, and LBJ was able to enact a lot of good stuff. But then there was Vietnam, and the civil rights movement (which upset a lot of racists), and suddenly LBJ felt himself politically neutered and had to drop out of what was surely going to be a humiliating primary election process. Ironic, given his lines of Humphrey, too. But I guess any successful politician has to, in some way or another, be a bully at some point, because being a politician is about trying to enact your will against that of others. Or at least make agreements where neither side comes out particularly happy, especially in more parliamentary systems.
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Jan 25, 2023 16:14
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https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2021cr0687-79 Page 38: The defendant argued that the "Geofence warrant" was to broad, the Judge counted with: quote:The Government responds that Defendant does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy over his location that day, or over his Google Location History data during the relevant period more generally. In the alternative, the Government contends that the warrant was not overbroad Page 40 shows a map of the area the warrant was for. Here also starts the description for what/how the government got the data, and how it was analysed. SniHjen fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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Jan 25, 2023 16:18
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Seems pretty far-fetched, but I have also learned to never write off the absolute dumbest thing from becoming our reality. https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/1618259938970841089 quote:Marjorie Taylor Greene aims to be Trump's VP pick in 2024
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Jan 25, 2023 16:57
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smackfu posted:How to get from “virtually everyone” to one in three? "virtually everyone" was a phrase invented by the Twitter user, not an actual quote from the judge's opinion. However, the judge did say that being inside the Capitol building at the given times would constitute probable evidence of a crime. The ~5700 devices were "devices that Google calculated were or could have been (based on the associated margin of error for the estimated latitude/longitude point) within the TARGET LOCATION." The 1500 devices had "at least one location associated with the device that [was] within the [Capitol] building and the margin of error [fell] entirely within the Geofence". In other words, the 5700 were devices that were probably within the Capitol building at the given time, and the 1500 were devices that were definitely within the Capitol building at the given time. There's a limit to the accuracy of geolocation, after all.
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Jan 25, 2023 17:14
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I don’t think it would be that surprising It’s more likely he picks a crazy person than someone more ‘moderate’ like Pence this time
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Jan 25, 2023 17:14
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Like I'm sure MTG "aims" to be the VP in 2024, obviously she does. I have "aims" to be signed to an 8 figure deal by the Dallas Mavericks, hasn't happened yet. Obviously the best move is for MTG to align her "aims" of the vice presidency with a fellow girlboss with similar views on governance and join the ultimate maverick unity common sense ticket of Sinema/Greene 24
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Jan 25, 2023 17:32
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Jan 25, 2023 17:34
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She can aim to be VP all she wants, Trump will never let her. She has her own spotlight for her actions. A malignant narcissist would never tolerate anyone else getting attention.
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Jan 25, 2023 17:41
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Kristi Noem is definitely angling for VP in 2024 but she's far far more mainstream and palatable to the business Republican wing than MTG, Noem has carefully walked a line between being a Trump loyalist and not explicitly endorsing election theft or Q-anon stuff. Ticks all the boxes for "freedom" during COVID and trans panic stuff etc though.
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AtomikKrab posted:Debates will never really HELP you regardless of how well you do personally, but not attending or bombing the debate can HURT your chances That and its the narratives that happen afterward. so at the time the debate may or may not matter but how its spun and how the media takes it probably has some effect. I mean we know for sure Kennedy/Nixon the debate had some influence on the election (those who watched thought Kennedy won, those who listen thought Nixon won) and Sarah Palin ended up sinking McCain. SniHjen posted:the Court’s best estimate is that the nearest (commercial business or residence) is no less than about a quarter of a mile away, or approximately 400 meters. [27] I mean there are some bars near the Library of Congress its all government buildings around there. I guess though, there maybe some apartments near by?
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Fritz the Horse posted:Kristi Noem is definitely angling for VP in 2024 but she's far far more mainstream and palatable to the business Republican wing than MTG, Noem has carefully walked a line between being a Trump loyalist and not explicitly endorsing election theft or Q-anon stuff. Ticks all the boxes for "freedom" during COVID and trans panic stuff etc though. Yeah. I figure Noem is going to get the VP nod if Trump gets nominated again. It could alleviate some of Trump's problems with respect to women and establishment Republicans. I don't know who else has been mooted for the role, though.
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selec posted:1. I love reading those I did defense contracting early in my career and I can tell you with absolute certainty that this guy sounds way more trustworthy than many of the chuds that I encountered in positions of power as civilians on the government side. All of them having had high-level TS-SCI clearances and deciding what projects would be on the receiving end of the government cash firehose. Information security is needed for defense purposes. But the current system is a loving joke, top-down and inside-out. Also lmao for all of us who got our identities stolen when OPM was breached, that was a cool one.
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I wonder if any potential VP candidates would have accepted the post in 2016 but are a little turned off by that whole "sometimes DJT will lead/send a private army to attempt to murder you as part of a coup of the republic" thing. Seems like it would weigh heavily on a VPs mind! Maybe the sort of person with the ambition and connections to become vice president doesn't care though.
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projecthalaxy posted:I wonder if any potential VP candidates would have accepted the post in 2016 but are a little turned off by that whole "sometimes DJT will lead/send a private army to attempt to murder you as part of a coup of the republic" thing. Seems like it would weigh heavily on a VPs mind! Maybe the sort of person with the ambition and connections to become vice president doesn't care though. From everything that has transpired in the past 20 years, I think the GOP's motto (and the thing that ultimately ties all Republicans together) is that whatever one of their comrades does is bad only if it doesn't work. Look at Pence. The guy was likely going to get killed by those rioters for doing the right thing and he's still trying to suck up to that base.
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Eric Cantonese posted:From everything that has transpired in the past 20 years, I think the GOP's motto (and the thing that ultimately ties all Republicans together) is that whatever one of their comrades does is bad only if it doesn't work. Trump has apparently turned around on Pence and now thinks he is being unfairly slandered now that he is tied up in classified documents issues. https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1617955388560904192
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Mooseontheloose posted:That and its the narratives that happen afterward. so at the time the debate may or may not matter but how its spun and how the media takes it probably has some effect. I mean we know for sure Kennedy/Nixon the debate had some influence on the election (those who watched thought Kennedy won, those who listen thought Nixon won) and Sarah Palin ended up sinking McCain. eh probably not within a quarter of a mile I don't think....the Capitol is already in the middle of a large empty area and the for at least another block beyond that it's just government buildings before you get to townhouses and bars/restaurants.
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