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neaden posted:A bunch of people on magic Twitter are talking about cheating but not anyone specifically, did something happen that I missed? WOTC didn't gently caress up yet this week so MTG twitter manufactured some drama.
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It's wild to me that people openly caught cheating aren't banned for life
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Jan 24, 2023 16:23
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Cheating is an important part of any game, not like it's trying to be a faire game anyway, so makes no sense to chase off people who got busted once or twice. You'll never get great cheaters that way and people won't want to come cheat with your company anymore if they can do better cheats elsewhere.
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Jan 24, 2023 18:06
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If anyone is looking for more Cedirc and Patrick content, they are apparently planning on relaunching The Resleevables as a Youtube series in March, at least that is what is being teased by this twitter account. https://twitter.com/TheResleevables/status/1615181733565198336
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Captain Invictus posted:It's wild to me that people openly caught cheating aren't banned for life It's not like there's a competitive aspect of this game they need to protect. Why ban a source of revenue for cheating in a format they don't care about
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Jan 24, 2023 18:54
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 This card is interesting to me. It's probably a bit too low on rate, but it just might squeak into some builds of Rakdos Anvil. Maybe I'm too high on it because of fond memories of Catacomb Sifter.
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https://twitter.com/TandyMTG/status/1617948324304416770 sorcery. bleh
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Jan 24, 2023 19:14
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Wow this is insanely good in limited sheesh
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fatherboxx posted:
Could be fun in a stupid deck with Tawnos
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fatherboxx posted:
SOME TIIIIIIMES I FEEL I'VE GOT TO PRO-LIF-ER-ATE WHOOOOOA tainted bird
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Jan 24, 2023 19:35
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Bird seems really good for a controlly planeswwalker deck
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Panderfringe posted:It's not like there's a competitive aspect of this game they need to protect. Why ban a source of revenue for cheating in a format they don't care about Under the DCI system, you'd usually get at least like a 6 month or a year ban for a cheating DQ, escalating from there. Now, though, I have no idea what happens. If you put a DQ into eventlink, WotC could theoretically do something to prevent your Wizards account from entering more tournaments, but I doubt there's anyone reviewing on their end. (And there definitely isn't for any events run outside of eventlink.)
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CellBlock posted:Under the DCI system, you'd usually get at least like a 6 month or a year ban for a cheating DQ, escalating from there. Now, though, I have no idea what happens. If you put a DQ into eventlink, WotC could theoretically do something to prevent your Wizards account from entering more tournaments, but I doubt there's anyone reviewing on their end. (And there definitely isn't for any events run outside of eventlink.)
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Jan 25, 2023 01:18
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re the 1/2 elf that untaps lands, I believe there is a cycle of karoo lands at common in the set? so probably balanced around those for limited
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Procrastinator posted:re the 1/2 elf that untaps lands, I believe there is a cycle of karoo lands at common in the set? so probably balanced around those for limited unless there is a second cycle: no 
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Goa Tse-tung posted:unless there is a second cycle: no There’s space for at least one more land cycle going by those collector numbers.
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btw remember this lil feller? poor guy got reprinted and still is now lost forever in an alternate timeline (and it would be very funny if they made a new one in the next Time Fuckery set that has the same ability named Venemous 1)
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Arivia posted:There’s space for at least one more land cycle going by those collector numbers. on top of the fastlands? the mtg website just has a buncha basics after that
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Goa Tse-tung posted:btw remember this lil feller? Snake Cult Initiation on Escape Artist… can’t beat that! Are Toxic and Poisonous identical? (edit: nope, Toxic is static, Poisonous is triggered and can potentially be stifled. Toxic is technically slightly better, and also mechanically much better for Arena/MTGO) generatrix fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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what's the deal with these "set booster exclusive" cards? they got the commander expansion symbol but aren't actually available in the commander product itself? 
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I want to say set & collector boosters and yeah, you're spot on. They usually do 8 cards that are technically part of the commander product but not in decks.
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Jan 25, 2023 15:40
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Since Midnight Hunt each set has had 8 commander cards available only from the set or collector boosters. Most have been bulk but there's usually one per set that ends up in the $15-20 range.
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I feel like there's enough exile removal, alongside bounce and good ol' -4/-4 that I would be wary of spending a lot of resources to make something indestructible. Removing counters in blue isn't bad especially with all the proliferate and free oil counters. Sacrificing tokens in white is also not bad because it doubles your tokens, but discarding 2 cards is kinda steep. By that point in red, you're probably topdecking and you don't want to be discarding burn spells.
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https://twitter.com/niphette/status/1617959486916022272?t=hTLRR1LqRymBmauJ1HpNYA&s=19
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Procrastinator posted:re the 1/2 elf that untaps lands, I believe there is a cycle of karoo lands at common in the set? so probably balanced around those for limited you almost made me poo poo myself because there is no way I would've missed a karoo land reprint lol
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A Moose posted:I feel like there's enough exile removal, alongside bounce and good ol' -4/-4 that I would be wary of spending a lot of resources to make something indestructible. Removing counters in blue isn't bad especially with all the proliferate and free oil counters. Sacrificing tokens in white is also not bad because it doubles your tokens, but discarding 2 cards is kinda steep. By that point in red, you're probably topdecking and you don't want to be discarding burn spells. you can make it indestructible at instant speed so you only discard the two cards when you're going to blank a removal spell, so you just hold up two cards and dare them to try their removal spell on it
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https://twitter.com/ghirapurigears/status/1618279833137737728 This seems pushed.
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Is there a way to discard a card and proliferate?
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https://twitter.com/MTGGoldfish/status/1618283790484267008 This is an important printing. Also WTF is this art lol
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TheKingofSprings posted:Is there a way to discard a card and proliferate? It turns Yawgmoth second activated ability in "BB: proliferate."
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one of my favourite arts of the set, wish we had more of these freaky horrors and a bit less of people from metal bands
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This set is looking like it's gonna be a crazy draft environment
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mcmagic posted:you almost made me poo poo myself because there is no way I would've missed a karoo land reprint lol yeah my b, my brain must have pasted the 1C activated abilities into the mana production spot, haha
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Khanstant posted:one of my favourite arts of the set, wish we had more of these freaky horrors and a bit less of people from metal bands Same, I love stuff that’s on the trippier side of hosed up.
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In the last week at two different drafts we had a guy in our casual draft league accused of cheating (specifically not discarding/picking the discard back up after looting. He's also only lost one game in 18 rounds of draft across 5 events and always plays blue, so go figure) and I had a miserable round against a storm player in DMR pulling poo poo like untapping extra lands after a frantic search (lands all stacked on top of each other, naturally), flipping deep research over in the graveyard and saying "pay 2 life" (it's 3 to flashback), and putting a land down to start the turn without saying anything, casting a bunch of stuff and then slapping another land down and saying "land for turn" like I didn't notice the first one. The prizes for these events aren't even good, it's like 3 draft packs or less store credit than the entry fee. I don't even have a point except to vent and say that this poo poo sucks. I know the thread likes to doubt WotC's assertion that most consumers are kitchen table players but I'd never so much as shuffled in a store for 6 years before dipping my toe back in a couple months ago, and the local scene is pushing me right back towards casual commander in people's living rooms.
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Who organises it, because when I was part of organising one we had one proven (or accused) cheater and he was kicked out never to return. Cheating's bad but tolerating it is worse.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Who organises it, because when I was part of organising one we had one proven (or accused) cheater and he was kicked out never to return. Cheating's bad but tolerating it is worse. Two different places, first one they’re “keeping an eye on (that guy) moving forward” and it’s a shame because they’re actually very nice and obviously a good player regardless which is a bummer. Second place is a small store that the employees literally aren’t in the same room for and say they don’t have time for this stuff so I’m just not going back, I’m a newcomer there and the person in question is part of multiple leagues and their friends make up like half of every pod so it’s pretty clear things are just rotten.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Who organises it, because when I was part of organising one we had one proven (or accused) cheater and he was kicked out never to return. Cheating's bad but tolerating it is worse. Why would you ban him from the store? If he's regular he's spending money. And if the rest of the regulars keep showing up regardless, then the store is only hurting itself by removing him. Wotc does not take cheating seriously (and why would they?) so why should stores?
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