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Asterite34 posted:Nero and Weiss showing up in the DLC is excusable, because it exists explicitly because someone thought "Man, did the main FF7 crew ever get a kickass boss fight with these characters? I bet we could make kickass boss fights with these guys if we massage the canon a little." I think the best aid for Nero (not so much Weiss) is that his main scene partner is Yuffie, who is pretty much genetically incapable of taking this 2000s edgelord poo poo seriously, which makes it way more palatable.
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Cleretic posted:I think the best aid for Nero (not so much Weiss) is that his main scene partner is Yuffie, who is pretty much genetically incapable of taking this 2000s edgelord poo poo seriously, which makes it way more palatable. Oh, that's a good way of looking at it. Throwing the Tsviets at the Remark incarnations of the FF7 main cast would be a good way to deal with them because Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aerith and Red XIII would also have less than zero shits to give for that clown car of chuckefucks.
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Jan 26, 2023 00:59
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Kheldarn posted:Just remember that Final Fantasy Adventure isn't actually a Final Fantasy game, but is Seiken Densetsu 1, i.e. Secret Of Mana 1. So we'll need Pixel Remasters of the Mana series, too! I know but it still counts.  Robotrek deserves a remake as well.
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Jan 26, 2023 01:15
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nine-gear crow posted:Basically the original timeline of the FF7Verse goes like this: Before Crisis > Crisis Core > Last Order > Final Fantasy VII > On the Way to a Smile > Advent Children > Dirge of Cerberus > Nothing because Dirge killed the franchise for a decade until Remake happened. Technically Crisis Core killed it, Dirge came out first.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I know but it still counts. Robotrek, now that was a ride of a snes jrpg.
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They should try remaking the mana games to actually be good. I say this as someone who loved Secret of Mana as a child.
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bentacos posted:They should try remaking the mana games to actually be good. I say this as someone who loved Secret of Mana as a child. Trials Of Mana was good
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bentacos posted:They should try remaking the mana games to actually be good. I say this as someone who loved Secret of Mana as a child. Secret of Mana's 3D version is fine, but the 2D version is better (emulator). Trials of Mana remake is perfect, no notes. Legend of Mana had a HD re-release relatively recently and it's perfect, no notes.
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Jan 26, 2023 01:30
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Nero and Weiss were cool boss fights and isn’t that all that matters?
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Little late to the iconic scene/music chat of FFVII, but YouTube just recommended this video of a streamer getting rocked by the music in his first play through of a 25-year-old game: https://youtu.be/tOF7_gIzfIU I feel the same, and I’ve played through that scene quite a few times.
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I'm gonna bet Part 2 or 3 will reveal those shadow voices thingies are Lufenians and it will get tied into this franchise thingy where Cloud and company end up ditching the whole Meteor thing to get crystals, which they will then use to fight Chaos or whatever with Sephiroth's help. I really get the vibes that SoP is part of a plan to really unify the different games into one universe even more tightly than something like Dissidia. Hell, it might be a catch-all for common questions, like maybe Necron is a Lufenian. Hell, 4TAY's final boss being a Lufenian would work surprisingly well.
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Sorry if that seems too rambling, I got exposed to Sin's toxins.
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one of the best musical moments in FF7 is sadly only in the PS1 version, at the end of the final nibelheim flashback the music used to swell to fit with the scene and it's just so perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih7s1e55tZI&t=1157s in the newer versions it just plays the reactor theme over that part, because the cutscenes are timed differently and the music can't sync up anymore
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jokes posted:SOLDIERs are, to a man, totally insane. That doesn't necessarily mean they're bad people though, they're just clearly insane. Roche, for example, likes to go fast. Sephiroth wasn't insane, that's why he was so widely revered, but it turns out he was just hiding it. Zack was insane, but it manifested as being stupid and fearless which also made people like him, like a puppy or something. I think the archaic "mad" fits better than "insane". Evil Fluffy posted:I know but it still counts. gently caress YES. Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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jokes posted:SOLDIERs are, to a man, totally insane. That doesn't necessarily mean they're bad people though, they're just clearly insane. Roche, for example, likes to go fast. Sephiroth wasn't insane, that's why he was so widely revered, but it turns out he was just hiding it. Zack was insane, but it manifested as being stupid and fearless which also made people like him, like a puppy or something. What about Kunsel or the other SOLDIER guy who (unlike Kunsel) is a fake friend. I like how there's one side quest where Zack actively makes this one SOLDIER guy become insane. Like he starts out planning on quitting*, but Zack causes his entire personality to change so much he basically loses his mind. * It's kind of weird that this is a thing. Seems like Shinra might hesitate to let random superpowered soldiers leave.
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Mega64 posted:I'm gonna bet Part 2 or 3 will reveal those shadow voices thingies are Lufenians and it will get tied into this franchise thingy where Cloud and company end up ditching the whole Meteor thing to get crystals, which they will then use to fight Chaos or whatever with Sephiroth's help. FFIV: lunarians are lufenians trying to escape lufenian bullshit. An omega weapon destroyed their first refuge so they went to the moon to hide and eventually hide amongst the humans. FFV: lufenians realizing chaos and negative thought were related so they tried out stuffing all negative thought in the tree. Hilarity ensues. FFVI: warring triad are lufenians, their war released chaos and they stuck themselves in the triangle to trap it. Here comes the clown! Too easy.
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I really doubt SoP is gonna be the center of the FF cinematic universe.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I really doubt SoP is gonna be the center of the FF cinematic universe. Bullshit! Now let me leave dramatically
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I really doubt SoP is gonna be the center of the FF cinematic universe. I mean, Jack Garland DOES make a good Tony Stark ✔️ Surly rear end in a top hat ✔️ Addiction issues ✔️ Many cool sickass armors ✔️ Head of a team of badasses ✔️ Quips and poo poo ✔️ Has no chill for pompous lore villains ✔️ Gaggle of colorful friends and supporting characters ✔️ Listens to loud obnoxious setting-inappropriate music for no reason Tell me where I'm wrong?
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Bullshit! Now let me leave dramatically *Limp Bizkit intensifies*
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I really doubt SoP is gonna be the center of the FF cinematic universe. Gilgaverse is out Jackaverse is in
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I really doubt SoP is so did everyone about every aspect of it until now, and yet
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This franchise could be greatly improved by Jack Garland going form game to game, taking one look at whatever character he comes across, calling them a pussy, and then walking away from them in disgust blasting Smack My Bitch Up by The Prodigy on his AirPods.
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Mega64 posted:I really get the vibes that SoP is part of a plan to really unify the different games into one universe even more tightly than something like Dissidia. Hell, it might be a catch-all for common questions, like maybe Necron is a Lufenian. Hell, 4TAY's final boss being a Lufenian would work surprisingly well. it's not it's literally just Dissidia.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:so did everyone about every aspect of it until now, and yet Don't put me in with all the fools and losers that thought it would be bad. I always had faith
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Even I knew it wouldn't be bad, I just wish it had literally any other protagonist.
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Ytlaya posted:What about Kunsel or the other SOLDIER guy who (unlike Kunsel) is a fake friend. With everything else Shinra does, quitting SOLDIER probably means more of a demotion to science experiment or a severance package of an unmarked grave.
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Ytlaya posted:* It's kind of weird that this is a thing. Seems like Shinra might hesitate to let random superpowered soldiers leave.
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roche being a 3rd class is a bit weird considering that the rest of the series treats anything below 1st class as slightly better than the average trooper. i wouldn't be surprised if we learn he's got 1st class skills but he's such an utter headcase that it keeps him from getting promoted
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Oxxidation posted:roche being a 3rd class is a bit weird considering that the rest of the series treats anything below 1st class as slightly better than the average trooper. i wouldn't be surprised if we learn he's got 1st class skills but he's such an utter headcase that it keeps him from getting promoted So he's Seifer?
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I feel like at this point "oh boy I can't wait to see this thing from the original recreated" is setting yourself up for disappointment after VIIR1 spent all that time hammering on how things are going to be different this time
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I think its going to have a similar vibe to the first remake game but they'll no longer be using ghosts to justify changes. They will just happen instead.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I think its going to have a similar vibe to the first remake game but they'll no longer be using ghosts to justify changes. They will just happen instead. I'm planting my flag in the idea that Aerith is going to survive the City of the Ancients, but the cost of her actually living this time is going to be so high you'll wish she hadn't.
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cock hero flux posted:they seemingly don't care all that much, there's a dude in junon in the original who talks about being a retired SOLDIER I feel like the series is sort of unclear on what sort of "supersoldier" SOLDIERs are. In most contexts they just seem to maybe be "people with slightly better reflexes who might be like 10-20% stronger than a fit person." But then you have them leap 20 feet into the air. Or on the other extreme, the scene where Cloud is hanging from the Shinra building and can't lift his body weight up with one arm, something that a normal person who is very fit could do. Granted, we only ever see a couple SOLDIERs do really outlandish stuff who haven't had special experiments done on them. The Big Three of Angeal/Genesis/Sephiroth were all exceptions, and the same goes for Cloud as of FF7. I think only pre-Hojo Zack and Roche are seen to do crazy feats as "normal" SOLDIERs.
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nine-gear crow posted:I'm planting my flag in the idea that Aerith is going to survive the City of the Ancients, but the cost of her actually living this time is going to be so high you'll wish she hadn't. She survives City of the Ancients, but the universe starts Final Destination-ing her. She’s finally taken out by the return of the Palmer truck.
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Augus posted:one of the best musical moments in FF7 is sadly only in the PS1 version, at the end of the final nibelheim flashback the music used to swell to fit with the scene and it's just so perfect Wow, I didn't know that. That sucks. It was a prime example of just how well directed scenes in VII were.
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HD DAD posted:She survives City of the Ancients, but the universe starts Final Destination-ing her. gently caress I hope that truck is in Rebirth. I'm gonna be so pissed if it isn't.
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cock hero flux posted:they seemingly don't care all that much, there's a dude in junon in the original who talks about being a retired SOLDIER I forget, aren't those cloaked Reunion guys ex-SOLDIERs? I'm pretty sure that's the official retirement plan, being some sick homeless guy Shinra just sorta discards. The Remake seems to follow that at least, the President talking about "cellular degeneration" or somesuch
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Augus posted:one of the best musical moments in FF7 is sadly only in the PS1 version, at the end of the final nibelheim flashback the music used to swell to fit with the scene and it's just so perfect Is there any particular reason the cutscene timing was messed with?
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What really impressed me with FF7 is the cast dynamics. Aerith is so important to the core cast because everyone else is so broken that they would never be able to stick together and focused towards their objective without her help. Then after she dies they have to figure things out to regroup. I hope the remake is able to capture that but I admit it will be much more difficult without the abstraction provided by early PS1 graphics.
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