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The game based on the Man Show got banned because they accidentally had nudity of a minor in it.
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Jan 26, 2023 14:53
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IShallRiseAgain posted:The game based on the Man Show got banned because they accidentally had nudity of a minor in it. i understand your confusion, but The Guy Game was actually completely unaffiliated with The Man Show
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Jan 26, 2023 15:14
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IShallRiseAgain posted:The game based on the Man Show got banned because they accidentally had nudity of a minor in it. opa!
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Jan 26, 2023 15:15
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That dude sure could drink beer fast
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Jan 26, 2023 17:42
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RandolphCarter posted:That dude sure could drink beer fast Didn't his liver explode before the second season?
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Jan 26, 2023 18:17
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credburn posted:Didn't his liver explode before the second season? Prostate cancer
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Jan 26, 2023 18:35
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Fish of hemp posted:Is there like any media at all from early 2000's that has aged well? Weirdly Arrested Development aged a lot worse than I thought it would. It's not even that bad, just kind-of worn out and a lot less lovable without the scrappy "always on the verge of cancelation" energy. Video games from the time have actually aged better than expected, barring the usual riders of "obviously the controls/engines will feel a bit jank because future developers iterated on principles set up here."
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Jan 26, 2023 18:38
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Six Feet Under has aged weirdly for me because it's all very well-acted but has that characteristic "all the characters are terrible to each other and also impossibly horny all the time" Alan Ball trademark. Was everybody really that horny 20 years ago? I feel like I've missed out.
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Jan 26, 2023 18:43
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The rule of thumb as I've learned it through life is that it's like an 80/20 split of people who are reasonably horny and those who are horny constantly, and that 20% of constantly horny tend to be the ones driven enough to create a lot of poo poo and skew perception. Plus blah blah "sex sells" blah blah "manufacturing insecurities" blah blah.
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Jan 26, 2023 18:48
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The Wire aged funnily because even it gets accused of copaganda sometimes (mostly because it suggests that good policing is possible and worth trying for, as the line in much of society on that has shifted to police being an inherently bad idea). But a more realistic Wire where the force is mostly made up of Hercs would not be a good TV show.
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Jan 26, 2023 18:54
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Henchman of Santa posted:The Wire aged funnily because even it gets accused of copaganda sometimes (mostly because it suggests that good policing is possible and worth trying for, as the line in much of society on that has shifted to police being an inherently bad idea). But a more realistic Wire where the force is mostly made up of Hercs would not be a good TV show. Isn't that basically The Shield though?
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Jan 26, 2023 19:05
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That or We Own This City
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Jan 26, 2023 19:09
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Samovar posted:He also stated that no Jew could ever be English, and advocated for them to be forced to water identifying clothing so that they wouldn't be able to pass, if memory serves. Got conversations crossed and thought this was referring to Jimmy Kimmel for a sec.
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Jan 26, 2023 22:05
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Fish of hemp posted:Is there like any media at all from early 2000's that has aged well? About 98% of Farscape.
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Jan 26, 2023 22:17
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Fighting Trousers posted:About 98% of Farscape. It gets better after that Jeremiah Crichton episode?
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Jan 26, 2023 22:18
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Much.
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Jan 26, 2023 22:21
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mind the walrus posted:Your mileage will vary significantly because most of these shows are about deeply unpleasant people, but-- Malcolm in the Middle, Sopranos, the first 2-3ish seasons of Scrubs, Six Feet Under, The Wire, Deadwood, Dead Like Me, the first 1-2ish seasons of Battlestar Galactica, Band of Brothers. Parts of The Sopranos have not aged well tbh. Watched the whole thing recently, and the pacing is glacial compared to a more modern show. Even in the final season and then the last few episodes, there's still dumb sometimes jokey side stuff happening that goes nowhere and distracts from the main plot. It feels like you could cut out a third of each season and not lose anything, at least. Also, and very noticeably tbh, the show is incredibly unpleasant in its treatment of women. It's absolutely grim. Female characters turn up just to be abused, hurt or killed and get less screen time and lines in the process than the men do. And everything that goes down with Adriana The story is largely only interested in them as victims or as objects to distract/castigate men who die or get abandoned. The camera's lingering male gaze is also extremely loving uncomfortable at times, especially when it comes to Meadow. Yeah sure, there's a degree where you can say oh it's about a subculture of men who are misogynistic themselves but it goes beyond what the characters do, to what the camera and the writing does.
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Jan 26, 2023 22:26
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 I hate that this picture is so useful
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Jan 26, 2023 22:42
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Parts of The Sopranos have not aged well tbh. Watched the whole thing recently, and the pacing is glacial compared to a more modern show. Even in the final season and then the last few episodes, there's still dumb sometimes jokey side stuff happening that goes nowhere and distracts from the main plot. It feels like you could cut out a third of each season and not lose anything, at least. That's basically every drama
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Jan 26, 2023 22:53
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Fish of hemp posted:Is there like any media at all from early 2000's that has aged well? as far as cartoons go, Avatar: the Last Airbender and Justice League/Unlimited aged shockingly well imo Danger - Octopus! posted:Parts of The Sopranos have not aged well tbh. Watched the whole thing recently, and the pacing is glacial compared to a more modern show. Even in the final season and then the last few episodes, there's still dumb sometimes jokey side stuff happening that goes nowhere and distracts from the main plot. It feels like you could cut out a third of each season and not lose anything, at least. sopranos has some of the strangest editing i've seen for a professionally made, major network backed series. like, there's a ton of scenes that seem to go on for no more than a couple minutes at a time, then cut away at what seems like a very odd or even abrupt point. as if it was like the show was constantly filled with moments where a fly kept getting into a shot or there was some kind of video/film corruption and needed to be cut out and salvage whatever they got. a lot of it genuinely felt amateur
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Jan 26, 2023 23:13
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rodbeard posted:That's basically every drama I hate to be pithy, but like yeah. The only difference I see with The Sopranos is that there's not even a fig leaf of justification or artistry to disguise the misogyny like other shows do. It's a very unflinching reflection of vulgarity. That is not to say that "therefore knowing this you should like it" or "therefore you're not supposed to like it, so tolerate it" or even that "therefore, this was an intentional choice by the creators." It just means that "the misogyny is loving awful" isn't a sign of the show aging badly and being out of touch with today's values as much as it's thematically consistent and doing something with a certain level of honesty, however unintentional. That may not be something you value, and 99 times out of 100 "it's unpleasantly realistic" isn't something I value, but The Sopranos... it works as a whole, even if yeah a lot of the individual parts are like a garlic fart. Mr Interweb posted:sopranos has some of the strangest editing i've seen for a professionally made, major network backed series. like, there's a ton of scenes that seem to go on for no more than a couple minutes at a time, then cut away at what seems like a very odd or even abrupt point. as if it was like the show was constantly filled with moments where a fly kept getting into a shot or there was some kind of video/film corruption and needed to be cut out and salvage whatever they got. a lot of it genuinely felt amateur The first season in particular is borderline schizophrenic in figuring out what tones it wants to shoot for. Sometimes it's diet-Scorsese, other times it's 90s slice-of-life, other times it's like a network family drama where everyone happens to also say "gently caress" a lot. mind the walrus has a new favorite as of 23:46 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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Jan 26, 2023 23:42
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exquisite tea posted:Six Feet Under has aged weirdly for me because it's all very well-acted but has that characteristic "all the characters are terrible to each other and also impossibly horny all the time" Alan Ball trademark. Was everybody really that horny 20 years ago? I feel like I've missed out. HBO means boobs and wieners, even if only twice a season.
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Jan 26, 2023 23:48
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Mr Interweb posted:as far as cartoons go, Avatar: the Last Airbender and Justice League/Unlimited aged shockingly well imo The 90s The Mask cartoon also has some genuinely good character work and some interesting ideas revolving around the Mask and it's effects on people's sense of identity.
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Jan 26, 2023 23:55
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Parts of The Sopranos have not aged well tbh. Watched the whole thing recently, and the pacing is glacial compared to a more modern show. Even in the final season and then the last few episodes, there's still dumb sometimes jokey side stuff happening that goes nowhere and distracts from the main plot. It feels like you could cut out a third of each season and not lose anything, at least. The Sopranos owns gently caress off dude.
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Jan 27, 2023 00:41
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Mr Interweb posted:as far as cartoons go, Avatar: the Last Airbender and Justice League/Unlimited aged shockingly well imo I'd like to think that the Men in Black cartoon aged well, but I also haven't watched it since it was actually still on tv, so I'm probably forgetting something that proves me wrong.
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Jan 27, 2023 00:44
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the_steve posted:I'd like to think that the Men in Black cartoon aged well, but I also haven't watched it since it was actually still on tv, so I'm probably forgetting something that proves me wrong. I looked into it a while ago and it's.... fine? The aesthetic still slaps and is easily the best use of that aesthetic that the studio/style ever got assigned to do, fitting the MiB concept like a glove, and the VA work ranges from passable to "Of course it's good it's Tim Curry," but the scripts and actual animation are exactly as low as you would fear. It's all perfectly adequate for a mid-tier also-ran on a dying kid's cartoon block, but there's no lost treasures to be found beyond a few money shots. mind the walrus has a new favorite as of 01:08 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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Jan 27, 2023 01:06
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italian quid posted:The Sopranos owns gently caress off dude. Why do you post like a youtube comment section
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Jan 27, 2023 01:06
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The Sopranos has about one absolute dud of an episode per season (Columbus Day, that one in the last season where Christopher harasses Ben Kingsley) but aged extremely well and outclasses most shows it influenced.
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Jan 27, 2023 01:08
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Why do you post like a youtube comment section Motorsport.com comment section, get it right
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Jan 27, 2023 01:11
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The Sopranos is a lot like Seinfeld in that the leads are all charismatic enough that it is easy to lose sight of the fact that they're all supposed to be the worst people alive. You root for them because they're the protagonists and the show is essentially all about their vision of the world and the way that the world works but they're terrible and once you remember that it is easier to understand why The Sopranos is insanely misogynistic.
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Jan 27, 2023 01:23
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mind the walrus posted:I looked into it a while ago and it's.... fine? The aesthetic still slaps and is easily the best use of that aesthetic that the studio/style ever got assigned to do, fitting the MiB concept like a glove, and the VA work ranges from passable to "Of course it's good it's Tim Curry," but the scripts and actual animation are exactly as low as you would fear. It's all perfectly adequate for a mid-tier also-ran on a dying kid's cartoon block, but there's no lost treasures to be found beyond a few money shots. I think it is fair to say they covered most of the plots we got in the sequel movies, yet managed to have better resolutions than said movies. What I wonder is how the hell they got 4 seasons, but the Godzilla series only managed 2
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Jan 27, 2023 01:25
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Why do you post like a youtube comment section Okay, but you gotta get over it. NorgLyle posted:The Sopranos is a lot like Seinfeld in that the leads are all charismatic enough that it is easy to lose sight of the fact that they're all supposed to be the worst people alive. You root for them because they're the protagonists and the show is essentially all about their vision of the world and the way that the world works but they're terrible and once you remember that it is easier to understand why The Sopranos is insanely misogynistic. I think you're right, a lot of people have difficulty squaring it. The show really spells it out for you when Ralphie beats that girl to death and everyone is upset with him and you think there is this big moral reckoning happening but the best they can come up with is that he "disrespected the bing" by just brutally beating the poo poo out of that poor girl. These guys aren't supposed to be your moral compass through life and quite frankly I think you're dumb if you're looking to TV show characters to be that moral compass for you.
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Jan 27, 2023 01:34
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Aces High posted:I think it is fair to say they covered most of the plots we got in the sequel movies, yet managed to have better resolutions than said movies. Better received movie probably.
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Jan 27, 2023 01:35
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Why do you post like a youtube comment section Spoken like a piece of poo poo that ate all of the gabagool
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Jan 27, 2023 02:50
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Henchman of Santa posted:The Sopranos has about one absolute dud of an episode per season (Columbus Day, that one in the last season where Christopher harasses Ben Kingsley) but aged extremely well and outclasses most shows it influenced. what?????? are you one of those people who think we're supposed to agree with them about Columbus mind the walrus posted:I looked into it a while ago and it's.... fine? The aesthetic still slaps and is easily the best use of that aesthetic that the studio/style ever got assigned to do, fitting the MiB concept like a glove, and the VA work ranges from passable to "Of course it's good it's Tim Curry," but the scripts and actual animation are exactly as low as you would fear. It's all perfectly adequate for a mid-tier also-ran on a dying kid's cartoon block, but there's no lost treasures to be found beyond a few money shots. in my mind the MiB cartoon is just the OP and nothing else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVAePIyC4kQ
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Jan 27, 2023 03:01
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I love the the first VGA gave the GOTY to Madden of all things. That was the year Wind Waker came out
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Jan 27, 2023 03:26
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Alaois posted:what?????? No, I just think it's an extremely bad episode of television as well as a weird interregnum in a heavily serialized show.
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Jan 27, 2023 03:28
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grittyreboot posted:I love the the first VGA gave the GOTY to Madden of all things. That was the year Wind Waker came out Yes, but that would require genuinely engaging with your subject material which, as the video shows, they had absolutely no interest in doing. It was always going to be either a sports game or an army game, because those are derived from other, not traditionally nerdy subject materials.
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Jan 27, 2023 03:32
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Henchman of Santa posted:No, I just think it's an extremely bad episode of television as well as a weird interregnum in a heavily serialized show. Did you think the whole thing with the catalytic converter and the dry vegetation in the final was a waste as time too?
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Jan 27, 2023 03:41
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I don't remember. But what would be lost if that Columbus Day episode disappeared? The anti-Italian discrimination screenshot? I thought that was a universally derided episode.
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