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I know the answer is “capitalism”, but how do these image rights stay around so long after you’re dead? Like Mickey Mouse copyright shenanigans I can understand because it’s the character who keeps getting kept in copyright, not Walt Disney. But with real (dead) people it’s like, how can you own a dead man’s face? Is the face of the future a deceased Bruce Willis being dragged into court for a cadaver synod?
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The alternative is Mickey Assassination Squads taking out marketable stars so their public images can be exploited on the cheap.
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Mantis42 posted:The alternative is Mickey Assassination Squads taking out marketable stars so their public images can be exploited on the cheap. This is cyberpunk as
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galagazombie posted:I know the answer is “capitalism”, but how do these image rights stay around so long after you’re dead? Like Mickey Mouse copyright shenanigans I can understand because it’s the character who keeps getting kept in copyright, not Walt Disney. But with real (dead) people it’s like, how can you own a dead man’s face? Is the face of the future a deceased Bruce Willis being dragged into court for a cadaver synod? people didn't even own their own face until back to the future 2
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serious answer 50 years after you die and the can hire an impersonator and deep fake them (california law)
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I am not a lawyer. First amendment rights are pretty solid. One thing America definitely got right, but corporations have impressed artists with fear to exercise them. A lot of people on smaller film sets cover up/avoid brand logos and worry about people's faces when stealing shots in public. It's a huge waste of energy because people don't know their rights. As far as I know neither of these have any legal basis you can show any logos and faces captured in public, no need to blur or hide them per se. If you are selling your work to a broadcaster with a deal with coke and your character drinks a refreshing pepsi maybe there's a contractual conflict idk. You cannot show a normal coke and have someone drink it and then die unless it's parody, that could cause 'unfair damages' because coke is not actually instantly deadly. There's some extreme limits. You don't need the rights to a true story if you don't plan to alter it in a way that is untruthful and defaming but not parody. i.e. I can make an offical Donald Trump biopic with no rights from anyone. You could legally show an actor playing Disney drawing micky mouse and so on. There's a film about a famous affair where they didn't have rights, and the details of the affair (specific acts, conversations) were not public, but they were able to release the film showing intimate scenes because they didn't interpret too much, bog standard affair stuff - the bar is "deliberate falsification with intent to harm". You basically never need the rights to use true events. Tattoos, paintings, music and other works of art typically do need clearance to appear without comment in a film. If a face has commercial value (celebrity endorsement) you need to get the right to use it commercially. a painter can paint a celebrity without their permission and sell the painting no problem afaik. There's also no limit on recording on private property, unless you're recording a person's private life without permission. A horror film was made a disney land without any permission of disney or the guests who appear in the background and it was released just fine. Antonymous has issued a correction as of 11:03 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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i say swears online posted:triangle of sadness would have absolutely benefitted from 45 minutes of film being thrown into the trash the more i think about it the weirder it seems that the last forty five minutes of triangle of sadness was everybodys trapped on a (not really) deserted island and not their being held hostage by the pirates who blew up the boat
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Antonymous posted:I am not a lawyer. a good portion of it is not wanting to give an endorsement or create an advertising opportunity which isn't exactly a great reason to cover it up either, but i mean people generally do things with stuff. sometimes it's unavoidable
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Man, I was expecting hot D to be on that list
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loquacius posted:Man, I was expecting hot D to be on that list prob not technically a “streaming show”
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KomradeX posted:Was Wednesday good? my wife works w/ 2nd & 3rd graders and she says her co-workers can't stop talking about it and her kids keep asking her if dahmer was a real person
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KomradeX posted:Was Wednesday good? No. But did it have something to say that it said anyways? Also no.
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I feel like Wednesday could be good as a premise depending on how in love it is with its own manic pixie dream goth MC execution is of course a separate variable
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fits my needs posted:my wife works w/ 2nd & 3rd graders and she says her co-workers can't stop talking about it and her kids keep asking her if dahmer was a real person lmao
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:does nielsen get to look under the hood at netflix’s data or do they just trust them? I think their traditional method is to get an assortment of people to volunteer to let them put a box on your TV that spies on what you watch but I dunno if that works for streaming services and I dunno if it skews boomer
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KomradeX posted:Was Wednesday good? They made a Munsters show starring Wednesday Addams
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there is exactly one scene from Wednesday I have seen any reference to whatsoever and it is the one where she dances weird
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loquacius posted:I think their traditional method is to get an assortment of people to volunteer to let them put a box on your TV that spies on what you watch but I dunno if that works for streaming services and I dunno if it skews boomer the "traditional" method was to get people to fill out a diary with their TV watching habits and they included $5 with the diary so that people would (hopefully) actually fill it out completely the boxes were only for a tiny fraction of people, most people got the diary
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Wednesday is fine, my kid liked it a lot and it's nice to have something we can watch together. I'm partial to Addams Family stuff because I'm old. Thing is great. Fred Armisen was a nice surprise later in the series. I hope they have Cousin It show up in season 2.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:does nielsen get to look under the hood at netflix’s data or do they just trust them? They put set top boxes with internet connections on every tv you have, and will try to view your PC output you have a PS4 plugged into the monitor too. Not too tech savvy They hook up mics to sound bars so I'm sure that they have two things: 1) some companies play a nearly inaudible sound when starting so the Nielsen device can know what is it and 2) they probably use something like Shazam to ID other stuff They also pay you a more than nominal fee if you do a good job telling it who's watching. It's sweet. I played dune like 30 times on HBO max to do my part in getting the sequel made
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dang I hope William zabka is gettin paid for this success.
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mastershakeman posted:They put set top boxes with internet connections on every tv you have, and will try to view your PC output you have a PS4 plugged into the monitor too. Not too tech savvy familiar with broadcast stuff but not too much streaming. there is an “audio watermark” containing an id injected before it gets transmitted ota that people can’t hear but nielsen can. the mics doing a shazam is really interesting to me, a nerd, and i’m guessing that’s because not every broadcaster will cooperate with injecting that audio? or is it more like a catch-all for streaming, broadcast, recording what you say about the government etc.?
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sonatinas posted:dang I hope William zabka is gettin paid for this success. first two seasons he got a mil each, don't know about the third but maybe there was a pay bump $100k an episode sounds like a sweet deal for a new streaming show
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i dont doubt that nielsen skews similar to landline-based surveys, but that chart looks pretty much in line with what i would expect except ozark, those are wild numbers for a show that has had zero cultural impact
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The Science of Suck posted:familiar with broadcast stuff but not too much streaming. there is an “audio watermark” containing an id injected before it gets transmitted ota that people can’t hear but nielsen can. the mics doing a shazam is really interesting to me, a nerd, and i’m guessing that’s because not every broadcaster will cooperate with injecting that audio? or is it more like a catch-all for streaming, broadcast, recording what you say about the government etc.? this is just based off what random techs would say , so i have no idea on the details. but yeah, kind of a catch-all. presumably there isn't an audio watermark on some streamed copy of the godfather (maybe there is??) so they just shazam it or just write it down as 'unknown'. the external mic i've seen did tape facedown onto a soundbar so hopefully it wasn't just listening to me say 'bush did 9/11' for 3 hours a night. that's what my phone and echo devices are supposed to be listening to its also interesting they capture all inputs and pay a LOT of attention to your input setup. constant letters saying did you add a device? tell us, we'll pay you a courtesy amount. so they're capturing what games are being played on the various systems as well, or if youre watching amazon video's copy of a scott adkins movie via your ps4 i'm curious how they would have dealt with the switch, i wish we'd been a nielsen family when we got it
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mastershakeman posted:They put set top boxes with internet connections on every tv you have, and will try to view your PC output you have a PS4 plugged into the monitor too. Not too tech savvy hmm it looks like they just have a deal with netflix to verify their #s for starting the ad-based subscription roll out https://twitter.com/adweek/status/1615891928574312451
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Green, who starred alongside Daniel Craig in James Bond film "Casino Royale", is seeking payment of her acting fee for the aborted sci-fi film project titled "A Patriot". The 42-year-old actress is suing UK-based production company White Lantern Film, claiming she is still entitled to her million-dollar (£810,000) fee. The production, first announced in 2018, collapsed the following year. Green then filed a lawsuit claiming she should receive her contractual fee under a "pay or play" clause. She is also seeking legal costs. White Lantern Film production company countersued Green, alleging that she derailed the £4 million project by making "unreasonable demands" and dropping out of the lead role. The trial is expected to last eight days. The judge will then rule at a later date. Green did not appear at the first full hearing Thursday, when her lawyer Edmund Cullen defended her professionalism. The actress "wanted the film to be made, she bent over backwards to get this done", Cullen said, calling it her "passion project", for which she was an executive producer. Cullen accused the production company of trying to depict Green as a "diva to win headlines and damage her reputation". In a written defence, the production company's lawyer Max Mallin said Green was "increasingly reluctant to be involved in the production" and quoted text messages where she harshly criticises several of the production crew members. In them, she calls the film's executive producer Jake Seal a "devious psychopath" and production manager Terry Bird "a F(expletive) moron". Her lawyer Cullen conceded that Green's "language is unguarded and at times strongly and perhaps carelessly expressed". But he accused White Lantern of trying to "lay every failure of the production at Ms Green's door", while in fact the project was in a "state of complete dysfunction". Cullen last year represented two former members of the Sex Pistols who won a London court battle against ex-frontman John Lydon over allowing the use of the punk band's music in a Disney drama series. The website Celebrity Net Worth estimates Green is worth $10 million.
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we are so back (in 2 months) https://twitter.com/succession/status/1618640028690685952
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:we are so back (in 2 months) I pity the goons who reflexively hate this show because “it’s just another show about rich people, no thank you” because it’s fun to watch
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Trabisnikof posted:I pity the goons who reflexively hate this show because “it’s just another show about rich people, no thank you” because it’s fun to watch I don't understand not watching something because it's popular. Like sure, if the subject doesn't appeal to you, or you tried it and you didn't like it but just because other people like it is absurd. unless you're digging the deepest depths of youtube and self-published ebooks, you're not the first to consume any media get over it
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KomradeX posted:Was Wednesday good? No it had potential but it doesn't understand what actually is good about the Addams family stuff or the 90's movies and makes it essentially be a teen detective series but it's broadly appealing in the way the Big Bang Theory was, by running a vanilla show with a slim facade of counter culture, so lots of folks enjoy it i wouldn't call it challenging or clever though
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Trabisnikof posted:I pity the goons who reflexively hate this show because “it’s just another show about rich people, no thank you” because it’s fun to watch feel like people incorrectly think its just a prestige anti hero epic business deals drama, when really its godless new yorker righteous gemstones
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