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Kennel posted:The price history says 10 ETH, so... $15 000? was it $15 000 back then?
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The big trick is that computer people with too much money have literally no taste in anything
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:my squiggles gone My ROMEO ROSE COIN has been DRAINED!
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An automated system to produce an infinite amount of lgbt+ friendly Donald Trump signatures is a silver lining to crypto I did not expect.
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LMAO, they bother to pick Bitcoin as the one crypto allowed by the government, but handwave away the Bitcoin blockchain as if there was anything to distinguish it from forks beyond a gentlemen's agreement. edit: Thinking further about this idiocy: In order to implement this as worded, Arizona would have to either operate a node or designate an existing node as the reference. This would effectively turn that node into a central truth, which is something the Bitcoin protocol is designed to resist. If this sticks, then mining becomes moot. If it doesn't, then all government-approved coins will become worthless overnight sooner or later. This "make Bitcoin legal" bill seems fundamentally incompatible with Bitcoin at a technical level. Not that this will stop anybody. Aramis fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:my squiggles gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5d9BrLN5K4
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-Honey, what difference does it make? Just pick a bank and open an account there. -No! I cannot make an informed decision until I know what their stolen ape policy is, this is important!
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I can't help but wonder about the inclusion of " 2. SPECIE ISSUED AT ANY TIME BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. " Are there coins that have been minted by the US government that have had their legal tender status revoked at some point in the past? If so, then why the heck is Arizona getting a bee in their bonnet about that all of a sudden? edit: vvvvvvvvv Yeah, I figured it was something along these lines. I know they are stupid dipshits, and I really should ignore them and move on, but still... The idea that a state would accidentally make any commemorative coin containing a spec of silver issued by any federal agency legal tender for the sake of making Bitcoin legal is just  .
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Jan 26, 2023 16:08
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It's not hard to bounce from crypto people to goldbugs and back again, so they're pretty much always going to show up to the same events. In this case, the event was the Arizona legislature. It's essentially a "I don't trust the gubmint" statement written by people who have no idea about anything.
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Aramis posted:LMAO, they bother to pick Bitcoin as the one crypto allowed by the government, but handwave away the Bitcoin blockchain as if there was anything to distinguish it from forks beyond a gentlemen's agreement. It's everything we've come to expect from these people.
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Aramis posted:I can't help but wonder about the inclusion of " 2. SPECIE ISSUED AT ANY TIME BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. " Maybe they want to make it legal for people to still pay in gold certificates if they're so inclined?
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jokes posted:It's not hard to bounce from crypto people to goldbugs and back again, so they're pretty much always going to show up to the same events. In this case, the event was the Arizona legislature. The best part is those are inherently the opposite of each other. Some goldbugs are doing it to have their money survive an apocalypse and collapse of modern society, believing the value of gold will survive that. Crypto is extremely frail and can't survive in that situation.
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Chainclaw posted:The best part is those are inherently the opposite of each other. Some goldbugs are doing it to have their money survive an apocalypse and collapse of modern society, believing the value of gold will survive that. Crypto is extremely frail and can't survive in that situation. I'm pretty sure crypto people honestly, truly, 100% believe that crypto will survive the apocalypse lol It's loving insane that goldbugs are the reasonable ones in any arena
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legislature of a state that's going to be completely uninhabitable in a few years, addressing the real issues
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Kevin Rose is and always has been a loving annoying dumbass. I'm glad he's getting fleeced.
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jokes posted:I'm pretty sure crypto people honestly, truly, 100% believe that crypto will survive the apocalypse lol I wanted to say crypto people can't be that dumb, but they wouldn't be crypto people if they weren't that dumb. Their ledger based currency that requires a vast network of connected, power hungry computers to be actively crunching data in a way where there's no fracture in the connection and no single entity controls more than 50% of the computer power is definitely going to survive in that apocalyptic world the goldbugs are prepping for.
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Speaking of bitcoin as legal tender, how's El Salvador doing nowadays?
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jokes posted:4. Bitcoin 4. Bitcoin: it's high stakes monopoly for losers.
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jokes posted:I'm pretty sure crypto people honestly, truly, 100% believe that crypto will survive the apocalypse lol Haven't you seen The Book of Eli? Where Denzel goes into the shop, shopkeeper played by Tom Waits, and hands him a piece of paper with his bitcoin wallet on it.
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happyhippy posted:Haven't you seen The Book of Eli? No
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fish and chips and dip posted:Remind me again how the gently caress you can steal an NFT? You add an entry to a computer database which says a link to a jpg file is now associated with an address whose private key is possessed by someone else.
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also getting bitcoiners to download something that has a virus specially made to steal bitcoins and nfts seems to be the easiest thing on the planet to do
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Chainclaw posted:The best part is those are inherently the opposite of each other. Some goldbugs are doing it to have their money survive an apocalypse and collapse of modern society, believing the value of gold will survive that. Crypto is extremely frail and can't survive in that situation. Yeah it's funny. Even the goldbugs who are okay with getting certificates instead of having their own vault could theoretically get their gold in the apocalypse. Theoretically. As in it's physically possible for them to travel cross country trading blowjobs for kerosene to keep their engine running until they reach the warehouse to demand to exchange their certificates for gold bars. Yeah realistically the warehouse would be empty or they'd just get shot by the former security guards, but the gold is a physical thing that would not melt away into thin air. Bitcoin is like, the apocalypse will wreck industrial society and all relationships and institutions of civilization, but everyone will still have high speed internet and there will be plenty of cheap electrical power for the mining pools
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Boxturret posted:also getting bitcoiners to download something that has a virus specially made to steal bitcoins and nfts seems to be the easiest thing on the planet to do i mean they bought into cryptocurrency, they've self selected as fuckin morons already
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Aramis posted:I can't help but wonder about the inclusion of " 2. SPECIE ISSUED AT ANY TIME BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. " The US went through a pretty weird set of monetary systems pre-income tax. State specific or even regional currencies weren't uncommon and you'd even have foreign currencies still circulating in old French territories or near the borders. Around the Civil War era things started to get more aligned, especially with soldiers pay being in USD, weapon purchases in USD and reconstruction money being financed with USD. The introduction of the income tax made the US Dollar the only currency that had legitimacy decades later, but at that time there were more places paying in company script than regional currencies. The US treasury has issued a bunch of different types and denominations of currency that are considered legal tender or specie and so those provisions are probably there if someone wants to pay in old gold coins or wooden nickels or something else that predates the modern Treasury system, sort of a protection from those stories about someone getting arrested because they tried to pay with a $3 bill.
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jokes posted:It's okay because it's likely used to launder money, so he's "paying" $105,000 but he already has a buyer lined up who just sold a bunch of drugs/children/guns or whatever. Don't feel bad because you don't have $105,000, you haven't sold $105,000 worth of drugs/children/guns. He is a "market maker" (in apes, millions of dollars of apes)  As a sophisticated businessman, posting on twitter the details of how you buy stolen goods and how you are mad that it is difficult to resell these stolen goods seems like a good idea (seriously what is it with cryptobros posting details of their crimes on twitter)
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seems the way a lot of hacks happen is hackers send random "NFTs" that are just smart contract bombs to a person's wallet and if they open it up, their wallet gets hacked. Since everyone's just trying to get money instead of putting resources into security they just go, "whoops that's crypto for ya!" and let people get hacked. but from reading what the VP of his company said. .. dude just opened some website. dude is not even following general web guidelines don't care either way for kevin rose. kinda wish it happened to that kevin roose guy instead though.
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah it's funny. no joke, i've seen some coiners insist that they could keep the blockchain going via radio if the internet went away
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Porfiriato posted:Maybe they want to make it legal for people to still pay in gold certificates if they're so inclined? That was literally a thing that was going on for a while. Goldbugs would lobby states to declare gold legal tender so they could use these gold debit card things. I guess putting all your wealth into a metal heavier than lead can be inconvenient.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:no joke, i've seen some coiners insist that they could keep the blockchain going via radio if the internet went away it's just math! they could do it with smoke signals!
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Just chisel the records into sandstone and pass the tablets around. Immutable!
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goddamn ape broke my stone tablet with a bone, drat you dirty apes! (don't tell wife, our entire savings were in stone)
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Lazyfire posted:The US went through a pretty weird set of monetary systems pre-income tax. State specific or even regional currencies weren't uncommon and you'd even have foreign currencies still circulating in old French territories or near the borders. Around the Civil War era things started to get more aligned, especially with soldiers pay being in USD, weapon purchases in USD and reconstruction money being financed with USD. The introduction of the income tax made the US Dollar the only currency that had legitimacy decades later, but at that time there were more places paying in company script than regional currencies. The US treasury has issued a bunch of different types and denominations of currency that are considered legal tender or specie and so those provisions are probably there if someone wants to pay in old gold coins or wooden nickels or something else that predates the modern Treasury system, sort of a protection from those stories about someone getting arrested because they tried to pay with a $3 bill. Thanks for the detailed explanation. The really weird thing here is that the bill (and let's be honest, most likely because of incompetence from the writers) explicitly treats specie that has been emitted by the US government as a separate, supplemental, category from tender recognised by that same government. The 3$ bill example should be entirely covered by the later already. Aramis fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:no joke, i've seen some coiners insist that they could keep the blockchain going via radio if the internet went away *computing hashes mechanically on an Enigma machine* "quick Jonny, put this solution in Morse code and send it out on telegraph and wireless before someone else mines this block!"
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The Homer of the future is going to travel the world, reciting memorized monkey JPEG ownership tables
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explaining to lord humungus what he needs to set up so that he can accept cryptocurrency, which is actually way more valuable than gasoline
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It is by will alone I set the Blockchain in motion. It is by the Slurp Juice that apes acquire value, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set the Blockchain in motion.
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