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The 3D street fighters chose the ugliest most mobile looking art style possible. The character models have a weird bulky look to them. They even have the gall to dress it up like it's some painterly looking thing with their whole paint swoosh motif. It looks like generic 3D crap with a filter over it. I don't know how they continue to justify it in a world where Guilty Gear Xrd exists. Do you mean to tell me Street Fighter has fewer resources to make their game look decent than Guilty Gear?
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kntfkr posted:Squaresoft used to make good games. Thankfully, they're re-releasing those same games today
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fighting games were fun as a kid when you're sitting next to your friends mostly bashing buttons but you know how to throw a fireball or do a couple of fatalities. when it's adult nerds sweating their balls off and the game is analysed down to i frames and poo poo then it's the most boring and lame poo poo in the world to me
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Jan 26, 2023 16:29
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Mortal Kombat gets poo poo, but (like Warhammer), I won't play them but will read wikis of 5hrs so I can understand why there's skulls and swirling portals everywhere and why The Predator is there for some reason.
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Jan 26, 2023 16:47
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Fighting games seem like they're fun any time two players are at about equal skill levels. If you both button mash but know how to do a qcf fireball, that's fun. If you both memorize all the moves and iframes, that's fun. But they're a game with vast differences in skill and if the 2 players aren't evenly matched they're just absolutely awful to play
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satanic splash-back posted:Fighting games force 1/2 the players to be losers so they aren't very popular with today's gamers And yet shooters are still extremely popular. So that's not it. Maybe they were just fun in the arcade and on the couch when you were a teenager, but not anymore.
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satanic splash-back posted:Fighting games force 1/2 the players to be losers so they aren't very popular with today's gamers itry posted:And yet shooters are still extremely popular. So that's not it. Maybe they were just fun in the arcade and on the couch when you were a teenager, but not anymore. popular modern shooters don't follow the 1v1 format though, the classic arena shooter duel format is very much dead
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Plus most shooters today are team-based by default, which let's everyone feel like it's someone else's fault you lost.
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I got a lot of mileage out of my "US Marines are Homosexuals" Steam name
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repiv posted:popular modern shooters don't follow the 1v1 format though, the classic arena shooter duel format is very much dead satanic splash-back posted:Plus most shooters today are team-based by default, which let's everyone feel like it's someone else's fault you lost. I was thinking about how for you to have a good K/D ratio someone else has to have a bad ratio. That's true whether you're playing CS, Tarkov, or Planetside 2 (or w/e). Back when I played PS2 way too much, I remember the average ratio was around .7 (which was crazy to me), and yet those people kept coming back to basically serve as fodder. So (snarky option) maybe fighting games aren't as interesting to compete with repeatedly dying in a pvp shooter. Or maybe the charm was always being right next to the other person you were playing against and now that most gamers are online, it's just not that interesting.
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itry posted:So, snarky option - maybe fighting games aren't as interesting to compete with repeatedly dying in a pvp shooter. Or maybe the charm was always being right next to the other person you were playing against and now that most gamers are online, it's just not that interesting. It's the later. Competition is only really fun as a social exercise. It works for team-based stuff because you have someone to cheer with or complain about. For 1-v-1, you might as well be playing against a computer for the most part. The only instance of a 1-on-1 online competitive experience having legs is Starcraft, and I'm more than willing to call it the exception that confirms the rule. Aramis fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:I got a lot of mileage out of my "US Marines are Homosexuals" Steam name awesome
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itry posted:That's true whether you're playing CS, Tarkov, or Planetside 2 (or w/e). Back when I played PS2 way too much, I remember the average ratio was around .7 (which was crazy to me), and yet those people kept coming back to basically serve as fodder. War Thunder is extremely bad about this. At a basic design level, every tank starts out with all of its parts locked. That means any damage - glancing blow to tank treads, muzzle gets blown off, engine gets lit on fire - is a death sentence. You have to literally grind your way out of being a one-shot kill to unlock fire extinguishers and repair parts, let alone actual AP ammo. With how their byzantine grind system works, you're frequently very literally forced into matches where you cannot do poo poo. As an example, Its very easy/common to be humming along in a mid-war M4 Sherman and get ranked up against end-war Tiger 2s, where your tank literally cannot penetrate anything on the enemy, even at point blank range. The entire casino grind is to get the player to chase being the whale, but its exactly the same as chasing the dragon.
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Vampire Panties posted:War Thunder is extremely bad about this. At a basic design level, every tank starts out with all of its parts locked. That means any damage - glancing blow to tank treads, muzzle gets blown off, engine gets lit on fire - is a death sentence. You have to literally grind your way out of being a one-shot kill to unlock fire extinguishers and repair parts, let alone actual AP ammo. With how their byzantine grind system works, you're frequently very literally forced into matches where you cannot do poo poo. As an example, Its very easy/common to be humming along in a mid-war M4 Sherman and get ranked up against end-war Tiger 2s, where your tank literally cannot penetrate anything on the enemy, even at point blank range. That sounds like a miserable experience. F2P only by name - you must pay to do anything but roleplay a stormtrooper. At least in PS2 you could do fine with the base equipment if you know what you're doing or don't get overwhelmed.
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galagazombie posted:I know this thread likes to have unpopular opinions
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:fighting games were fun as a kid when you're sitting next to your friends mostly bashing buttons but you know how to throw a fireball or do a couple of fatalities. Same, but I love this when it's done for single player games. Just coming up with completely ridiculous challenges and speedrun tricks like in SM64. The Green Demon challenge in SM64 is just barely possible in Tick Tock Clock and nearly impossible in Rainbow Ride. It's completely different from competitive games, since winning those doesn't require you to play perfectly, just better than your opponent.
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So obviously square is bad now and modern FF is just the scraps of failed games sewn together into an incoherent mess, but what galls me the most is their approach to remaking their good games. when FF6 came out it was a cutting-edge AAA game. one of the reasons the genre is dead is that any game that looks like that is a half-baked indie project, and so the FF6 remake makes it look like a half-baked indie project. I hope this gets figured out eventually but for the most part I think I'm doomed to sit in my porch with a shotgun yelling at clouds.
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George posted:So obviously square is bad now and modern FF is just the scraps of failed games sewn together into an incoherent mess, but what galls me the most is their approach to remaking their good games. FF6 remake doesn't feel like an half-baked indie project because of its art direction. It feels that way because of the amount of effort that went into it.
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Aramis posted:FF6 remake doesn't feel like an half-baked indie project because of its art direction. It feels that way because of the amount of effort that went into it. yeah but a lot of that is how they redid all the character sprites for no reason and made them look dumber.
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Aramis posted:It's the later. Competition is only really fun as a social exercise. It works for team-based stuff because you have someone to cheer with or complain about. For 1-v-1, you might as well be playing against a computer for the most part. How about Magic the Gathering Arena, or Chess.com?
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Um, Square is making good final fantasies and good games, people are probably just smart enough to avoid their games
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:fighting games were fun as a kid when you're sitting next to your friends mostly bashing buttons but you know how to throw a fireball or do a couple of fatalities. i remember first hearing about Evo and thinking it sounded incredible, pro fighting game players, man this is gonna be so lit but then just like real boxing its mostly people just posturing around with the occasional violent punch thrown in the most exciting fights to watch are where 2 drunk lads who don't know what they are doing go at it in the middle of the road, fighting games are the same
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George posted:yeah but a lot of that is how they redid all the character sprites for no reason and made them look dumber. It looks dumb mostly because they half-assed it and only changed the character sprites while leaving the rest of the graphics mostly as-is.
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I fondly remember begging for quarters so I could play street fighter 2 or mortal Kombat at the checkout line in pathmark. That began to sour when fighting games became combo focused. Don’t get me wrong - I have enjoyed combos - but it totally changed fighting games to me. And I never really thought it changed for the better. It was more interesting imo when the inputs were limited and the fight felt more ‘real.’ Like the aforementioned drunk fighting. With combos it immediately separated the player base and created the super focused I frame style we know now which I think is a shame.
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Leveling up your characters in FFX with that boardgame was probably the best way to level up in a jrpg.
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Outpost22 posted:Leveling up your characters in FFX with that boardgame was probably the best way to level up in a jrpg. quick one of you path of exilers pitch your ladder arpg to this mark
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Aramis posted:the exception that confirms the rule. The exception that proofs the rule. Commonly misused, original intent being a seeming exception that tests/stresses a rule in order to show it's validity. ----- Unpopular video game opinion: RTS's are great, both as a player and as a spectator sport. They only died out since people kept making so many bad ones it became harder to turn a profit, nevermind the modern trend of monitization / esports crap.
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I hate online competition because I know when someone beats me they're thinking 'oh he's mad  ' and you know what fucker I wasn't mad until I had to think about your stupid loving smug face!!!
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:I hate online competition because I know when someone beats me they're thinking 'oh he's mad I love online competitive games but I feel this way absolutely every time I lose
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As someone who is very good at videogames, I know that anyone who can beat me is a smug little 11 year old and yeah gently caress that I don't play competitive games because of that
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I feel like brass is an underappreciated metal.
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Outpost22 posted:Leveling up your characters in FFX with that boardgame was probably the best way to level up in a jrpg. it only works until you realise it's all straight lines
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Outpost22 posted:Leveling up your characters in FFX with that boardgame was probably the best way to level up in a jrpg. Actually, it's the board in mana khemia. Make stuff to unlock spots on the board to pick up stats/longer attack combos/&c.
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Ritz On Toppa Ritz posted:I fondly remember begging for quarters so I could play street fighter 2 or mortal Kombat at the checkout line in pathmark. For Honor was originally released with attacks slow enough to react to on sight if you had good reaction time. Very few combos (only one character of 8 could do more than 3 hits in a row, and it was their specialty). Designers trashed the system and remade it into traditional combo combat and memorization because it wasn't popular with fighting game people online. E: it was really fun and amazingly unfair because there was not a single move you could use from neutral without the opponent having a chance to block. Feints and mindgames were more important than animation memorization so of course it wasn't popular satanic splash-back fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 26, 2023 |
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Persona 4 Goldens opening song/cinematic/title screen thingy is the best one ever. Not sure what that is called but it is awesome. How do I know? Because idiot me has now purchased it 3 times and still not finished. Maybe this time.
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You have to buy it again. One time for every persona. Only then will you be able to play it. Not sure what you have to do with the Golden part.
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George posted:yeah but a lot of that is how they redid all the character sprites for no reason and made them look dumber. Hey now, at least they don't look like stock RPGMaker assets like they did the last time around 
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