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At a current market cap of 8.8 billion, you'd be looking at a buyout offer of about 10 billion to get serious consideration. If you did it as a leveraged buyout you might be able to get away with just putting 1 billion down, or 2000 black lotuses if you were able to sell them all for half a million each.
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Khanstant posted:How much would it cost to buy Hasbro? Ordered a bunch of these repacks with good chances to get dual lands and black lotuses off ebay and if I get enough black lotusii, i might just trade them for the company. $8.809B market cap, which is the implied value. But a takeover bid almost always requires a significantly higher per-share price, because you have to entice people to sell to you who are holding for a higher long-term price, dividends, etc. That's to take the company private. Fuzzy Mammal posted:Probably only about $5B to get 51% and vote in your own board of directors. EZPZ That seems about right. This would mean you're a majority shareholder and can effectively dictate terms; but you can't totally disregard the remaining shareholders, so it's not a pure ownership. flatluigi posted:it seems like every single corporation got a bug up their rear end to lay off 5-10% of their workforce at the end of q4 this year and i wanna know what big brained rear end in a top hat convinced them all to do it Roughly 20% loss of total stock market value. Companies have actually mostly good earnings (although, lol @ Intel today) but they all "anticipate" a downturn and are pre-emptively firing people to try to juice their stock prices back up. Remember most execs get most of their wealth from their stock, so they're more interested in restoring high stock prices than any other consideration. This is part of how anticipation of a recession is what actually causes the recession. Note that we may not actually have a recession anyway, but laying off lots of people is a big driver. Also note that inflation is already back down to like 2% so it sure seems like the economic pain that the fed was reacting to is over, they can stop raising rates, companies should have easier access to cheap equity. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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flatluigi posted:it seems like every single corporation got a bug up their rear end to lay off 5-10% of their workforce at the end of q4 this year and i wanna know what big brained rear end in a top hat convinced them all to do it https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/10k92tp/hedge_fund_directly_responsible_for_recent_tech/
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Nighthand posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/10k92tp/hedge_fund_directly_responsible_for_recent_tech/ That's some unsurprisingly infuriating poo poo. And I'm going to be out of a computer toucher job by the end of February.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/ghirapurigears/status/1618279833137737728 i feel like this entire set they've just decided to push everything up. i haven't been following it close so maybe im imagining it but every single card has some static ability, has toxic and some additional ability and it's an uncommon
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 08:10 |
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^ I'm getting loving tired of this that every card has eight lines of text and does a million things
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 09:51 |
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That's like 3 lines of text man Flying Toxic 1 When you proliferate, return card to hand
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 10:14 |
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power creep is such that a bland vanilla creature is unplayable at best. they've gotta have some kind of keyword at minimum. Wasn't a recent set the first time not a single creature in the set was just stats and nothing else? I wonder how long until we get a vanilla 3/3 or 3/1 for 1 (probably green) mana.
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flatluigi posted:it seems like every single corporation got a bug up their rear end to lay off 5-10% of their workforce at the end of q4 this year and i wanna know what big brained rear end in a top hat convinced them all to do it It's called a capital strike, but if you want to excoriate one person in particular Larry Summers is always pushing this kind of regressive economic bullshit. https://twitter.com/surlybassey/status/1618618085703045121?s=19 Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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Mat Cauthon posted:It's called a capital strike, but if you want to excoriate one person in particular Larry Summers is also pushing this kind of regressive economic bullshit. The kind of top down government-business collusion that really cements a permanent working underclass. We inch ever closer to a return to corvee labor
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Captain Invictus posted:power creep is such that a bland vanilla creature is unplayable at best. they've gotta have some kind of keyword at minimum. Wasn't a recent set the first time not a single creature in the set was just stats and nothing else? The last vanilla creature was printed in Strixhaven, there's none in Standard at the moment (which is a first)
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Strong Sauce posted:i feel like this entire set they've just decided to push everything up. i haven't been following it close so maybe im imagining it but every single card has some static ability, has toxic and some additional ability and it's an uncommon I feel like they'll often do this these days. Where Toxic does something powerful on it's own, but then also stuff will trigger off of it, (corrupted) and other stuff will enhance it (proliferate) and so in the past, the stuff with Toxic would cost 'more', since it's doing so much more, whereas nowadays, it will just cost the same, or less. Like in the old days of Astral Slide, the stuff with cycling would cost slightly more, because it had cycling, so then getting the synergies set up came at a premium but were worth more than the sum of their parts. I dunno, maybe I'm talking bullshit or over valuing it. But like how much would any of the stuff with Toxic cost if it didn't have Toxic? I feel like in every case, the same?
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yeah the design around proliferate specifically in this set seems to be that it's worth between 0-1 mana lotta cards that would still be playable without it just have it as a rider. its cool experimentation imo
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They can push proliferate a bit for limited because there are only oil counters on creatures, which seem slightly weaker than regular power/toughness counters. This has the side effect of making them more playable in standard.
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Khanstant posted:How much would it cost to buy Hasbro? Ordered a bunch of these repacks with good chances to get dual lands and black lotuses off ebay and if I get enough black lotusii, i might just trade them for the company. wait what? Why would someone repack cards worth potentially tens of thousands of dollars for you to buy at any even remotely reasonable price? That just sounds like a scam, you'd never be able to prove the repack them in a way where you could even get anything worth any money.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 15:46 |
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the full spoiler has me believing that the oil decks will actually be real in limited, which rules
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studio mujahideen posted:the full spoiler has me believing that the oil decks will actually be real in limited, which rules OIL!
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Tism the Dragon Tickler posted:I'll always be a tad bitter that Bitterblossom was banned on inception of the format because they were terrified of standard faeries, and by the time they realized it wouldn't ever have been a problem in Modern and unbanned it it was too late for the card to even be playable. I played against it once in Modern. On goblins with Legion Loyalists. They landed one game 1, I was a bit surprised. Game 2 they slam one on T2 and another on T3. They couldn't answer why they not only didn't side it out, but also slammed them instead of playing literally anything else.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:wait what? Why would someone repack cards worth potentially tens of thousands of dollars for you to buy at any even remotely reasonable price? I’m guessing that was a joke.
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TotalHell posted:I’m guessing that was a joke. Ah ok, that would definitely make way more sense. Haven't been getting enough sleep lately rip
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is All Will Be One (the card) legit or just a meme e: wait nvm i misread the card to say it deals damage equal to the number of counters on the permanent, not equal to the number you put on it
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A big flaming stink posted:is All Will Be One (the card) legit or just a meme It’s cool, it combos with some weirdshit cards I’ve never heard of.
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It's weird the all will be one is a red card, but red is the one faction that isn't going along with Norn's plan (from my limited understanding of the story)
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!Klams posted:OIL! Realmbreaker connects to our world and the US military invades Phyrexia
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snyprmag posted:It's weird the all will be one is a red card, but red is the one faction that isn't going along with Norn's plan (from my limited understanding of the story) there are red phyrexians (all the oil guys for example), the color is split (like white) from the vibes I don't like the set at all, it's like Torment all over again
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studio mujahideen posted:the full spoiler has me believing that the oil decks will actually be real in limited, which rules Finally, the real reason we're invading Phyrexia comes to light.
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without vanilla creatures where are you going to weave in flavor text that isn't about the major plot but about giving a better feel for the small details of the world Edit: I still think about this one, years later
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 19:25 |
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I've never played with a Limited set that uses poison counters as a major mechanic so I look forward to being super upset when I die on turn 5 to toxic creatures and proliferate. Reprint Leeches, WOTC
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Nighthand posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/10k92tp/hedge_fund_directly_responsible_for_recent_tech/ One hedge fund making demands is not "why companies laid people off." It's just one of many factors pushing companies to lay people off. TCI in particular doesn't solely wield this kind of power across the whole tech world. Tech companies always react to a drop in stock price and anticipation of a recession with big layoffs. It's the done thing, basically institutionalized habit. Especially companies that spend a lot of money on product development, because they can cut product development and coast on their current product lines for a few quarters without tanking the company's long-term value. Also many of these big tech companies are sitting on piles of cash, which they invest, and with overall market losing 20% last year, they saw their cash reserves crash and want to restore them.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 19:50 |
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In triple scars draft, you wanted to be either all in infectious or not really bother with it. I remember drafting some mixed decks that would get the opponent to six poison counters and six life and couldn't finish them off in either fashion. Will be interesting to see how it plays it out this time.
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snyprmag posted:In triple scars draft, you wanted to be either all in infectious or not really bother with it. I remember drafting some mixed decks that would get the opponent to six poison counters and six life and couldn't finish them off in either fashion. Toxic creatures still do regular damage and corrupted gives some incentive to have some poison in your deck at least
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Yo realtalk, modern with no banlist would be nothing but hogaak, kci and one dude playing boros burn
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Goa Tse-tung posted:there are red phyrexians (all the oil guys for example), the color is split (like white) the red phyrexians are urabrasks force, who are fighting against the other phyrexians because theyre the red guys so they dont like elesh norns plan. all will be one is red because the effect is red. the downside of designing cards to fit into story like this is they cant always have both story resonance and cards that make sense.
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Silhouette posted:Yo realtalk, modern with no banlist would be nothing but hogaak, kci and one dude playing boros burn I would simply turn Hogaak or KCI into an elk.
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:the red phyrexians are urabrasks force, who are fighting against the other phyrexians because theyre the red guys so they dont like elesh norns plan. all will be one is red because the effect is red. the downside of designing cards to fit into story like this is they cant always have both story resonance and cards that make sense. I remember a similar issue with the card True Love's Kiss from Eldraine. Love (and emotions in general) are a very red sort of thing, but because the card was supposed to get rid of artifacts and enchantments (so you could use it to break all of the fairy tale curses throughout the set), they had to make it white instead, since red isn't supposed to get rid of enchantments.
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Silhouette posted:Yo realtalk, modern with no banlist would be nothing but hogaak, kci and one dude playing boros burn https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/kanister-s-no-banlist-modern-subscriber-tournament KCI is nowhere near that power level
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Yo that format looks loving awesome
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sit on my Facebook posted:Yo that format looks loving awesome I think the eternal formats could benefit from a big unbanning reset every few years. Just let everything be legal and see what happens to the degeneracy in a format no one has actually every played, and then rebalance from there. Let the formats actually evolve, instead of iterating on old bannings that may have been superseded in tech over the years.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Yo that format looks loving awesome Does it? It looks like Dark Depths + Oko Artifacts, and then a lot of worse nonsense people were trying out. It looks like a great theorycraft tournament that would likely crystalize into a poo poo format to me. Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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I’d rather play against MH block constructed decks for the rest of my life than play against KCI again lol, I hated that deck so much. I know it had a good WR but it never felt broken to me, just aggravating. Sometimes cards should be banned just for being annoying imo. That being said, it was cool that a deck like KCI could exist next to decks like Humans or Shadow or Tron. One of the strengths of Magic imo is how weird decks can get while still working in the rules. Maybe it shouldn’t be banned idk. fadam fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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