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Miscellaneous Racing Series 2023: Shifted Into H This is the Misc. Racing Thread, home for discussion of all kinds of racing that aren't Formula 1, IndyCar, or NASCAR. Feel free to post about sports car racing, touring cars, rallying, off-road racing, motocross, and anything else you can think of. So much good racing is available to watch (especially online officially) that we can share and discuss while enjoying speedy race cars. So what kind of racing are you talking about here, then? We talk a lot about sports-car racing. It’s the racing, primarily on road and street courses, of cars which come closest in design and spirit to street cars. And at the top of sports cars are what’s called prototypes -- single-seat racers with closed tops and fenders. The Grand Prix cars of long-distance racing. But this is a place for all sorts of series: Australian Supercars, Japanese Super GT and Super Formula, the World Rally Championship, Supercross (I will get murdered if I don't mention or watch Supercross), and more. Why should I care about sports car racing? There’s a wide variety -- of cars, drivers, locations, and of race distances. It’s where your favorite drivers from Formula 1, IndyCar and NASCAR past will wind up. Races are often long (6-, 12- and 24-hour races are not uncommon), and feature multiple types (classes) of car racing on the same track but in individual class battles alongside the overall ranking. The world of sports car racing tends to be friendlier and more approachable than other parts, while still attracting many colorful characters. Okay. So what's new for 2023? Oh, we thought we were shifting into H last year in the world of sportscar racing, but that was a false dawn and finale - Toyota won the World Endurance Championship and 24 Hours of Le Mans once more, chased by a grandfathered LMP1 car and the plucky Glickenhaus. Peugeot eventually showed up, but this year should be the first proper challenge - in the form of the last factory to win before the current reign began... Last year was the finale for IMSA's prototype rules, the Daytona Prototype International, which gives way this year to the GTP class and LMDh rules. We already have nine cars for the Daytona 24, from four factories, with more due as the season goes on. The racing was drat good, the last two brands raced hard (sometimes too hard - hi Petit Le Mans Cadillac duel) and there's a lot of excitement for this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ize1rE7T8fE
And aside from the factories in the WEC, we have for 2023:
So, what are the series I should know? The FIA World Endurance Championship is the highest level of sports-car racing. It’s an FIA World Championship, same as Formula 1 and the World Rally Championship, which means a lot. The WEC schedule includes the 24 Hours of Le Mans, which means almost as much, if not more, as Le Mans remains a hugely popular event and a major marketing point for all these big manufacturers. The WEC features LM Hypercar cars, LMP2 cars, and a GT class, and is pretty fun to watch. Its season is back to running during the calendar year, and though the first race is moved from Sebring to Portugal, it will continue on as a global championship this year. Alongside the WEC is IMSA, which is based mainly in the United States but almost equal to the WEC in terms of longevity and prestige. Its a US and Canadian-based series, but many teams and drivers will also compete at Le Mans on an annual basis. IMSA also has a number of high-profile races: endurance epics include the 24 Hours of Daytona in January, the Sebring 12 Hours in March, and Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta in October, plus marquee shorter races at Long Beach, Road America, and more. Other regional series which are directly under the WEC and ACO (who co-organize the WEC along with the FIA) include the European Le Mans Series and Asian Le Mans Series, which both act as feeders of a sort to the World Endurance Championship and 24 Hours of Le Mans. There's no direct relegation/promotion, but teams gain experience in the regional series and sometimes step up to the WEC; also, all of IMSA, Asian Le Mans and European Le Mans all receive invites to the 24 Hours of Le Mans annually. But there are other series in this sports car world! Many of them fall under a sports car rulebook called GT3. These are cars made by big companies (Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes, Nissan, Audi) which are sold to customers. GT3 cars are expected to be balanced to achieve a similar level of performance -- in theory, a driver could take each of those cars around a track and get roughly the same lap time. This has led to a boom in series aimed to customers, as the cars are relatively affordable, well-built, fairly easy to drive (especially compared to customer cars from the 1970s and ‘80s) and eligible to race in a lot of exciting events. The 24 Hours races at Spa-Francorchamps in Belgium and the Nurburgring in Germany, and also the 12 Hours of Bathurst in Australia are highlights for GT3-type racing worldwide. Great! So how/when do I watch? First, you need to know when a race is! Custard Undies recommended this link to Motorsport.com's schedule for racing series. Use it, learn it, love it. Because the sports-car world is so diverse, there’s a lot to watch. Happily, much of it is readily available online or even via YouTube.
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Other questions? Reach out and ask! Recommendations? Please suggest and we'll try to add them in. Come join us on Discord! https://discord.gg/kg3d2Uu Misc Threads of the Past Misc. Racing Thread 2022: H-Sample Test Phase Misc. Racing Thread 2021: Shifting to H Intensifies Misc Racing Thread 2020: Put it in H! Misc Racing Thread 2019: I woke up to a smoking hulk Misc Auto Racing 2018: Mazda gonna Mazda Misc Auto Racing 2017: gently caress off Whincup Misc Auto Racing 2016 : Downgraded From Silver Posters to Bronze Misc Auto Racing 2015: At least our criminals are non-violent Misc Auto Racing 2014: So long and thanks for all the McNish Misc Auto Racing 2013: Beware: Ferrari Ahead Misc. Auto Racing 2012: No War But Class War Sportscars 2011: Racing with Class (ILMC/ALMS/GrandAm) 2011 Daytona 24 Hours 2010 Daytona 24 Hours
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[Reserved for LMP2]
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[Reserved for GTD and GTD Pro]
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SPACE HOMOS posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XySlnWVj7I It sounds like this was an absolute banger, Miatas on the huge super-speedway is always a good combo MazeOfTzeentch posted:LMDh BoP is pretty straightforward right now, especially since they are only running against themselves. Power is limited (and measured) at the axles to 500kW peak. IMSA defines a power curve in the BOP documents that all cars must adhere to over their rev range, by percentage, so at X percent of your rev limit you're allowed to make Y power. The trick is how it balances against the LMH cars, but yeah, the idea that the software and integration is what matters keeps it road relevant. Definitely will be interesting to see how it works going forward.
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 14:18 |
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Great job again HarperDC on the thread
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 14:33 |
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https://i.imgur.com/Ftncixz.mp4
Space Camp fuckup fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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mp4 = URL tags
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# ? Jan 27, 2023 17:13 |
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Don't forget Radio Le Mans for sickos who want maximum Train Simulator Talk during their 24 hour races.
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 04:45 |
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I will never call it GTP! It's time for H babyyyyy
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 15:46 |
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The GTP Cadillacs sound incredible
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 20:06 |
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[Reserved for SuperMotocross] Yes it's cool especially this year so please wait until I post about it
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 20:16 |
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Space Camp fuckup posted:The GTP Cadillacs sound incredible The Acuras sound good too, but man, that Caddy is insane First-time viewer here, Gran Turismo got me interested in sportscar racing. Where's the 787B
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 21:22 |
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curried lamb of God posted:The Acuras sound good too, but man, that Caddy is insane In a museum in Japan
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 21:23 |
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Thank god for IMSA Radio since Peacock loves cutting to long commercial blocks.
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curried lamb of God posted:The Acuras sound good too, but man, that Caddy is insane One thing I'll always say for simracing this. Want to put a 787B on the same track as a GTP, 4 touring cars, a 1973 F1 car and a Geo Metro? Go hog wild. I'm sure it'll end well.
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 22:33 |
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Is this only streaming on Peacock? Trying to watch in Australia but not finding any options compared to last few years Edit: I'm an idiot, never mind. Works off their website
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Custard Undies posted:Is this only streaming on Peacock? Trying to watch in Australia but not finding any options compared to last few years I do this every year, forgetting that you can just watch it free lol. WindyMan posted:[Reserved for SuperMotocross] Hell yeah brother. Thank you for reminding me.
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Custard Undies posted:Is this only streaming on Peacock? Trying to watch in Australia but not finding any options compared to last few years Ha yeah I went on the site earlier and it said to watch it on Peacock (which I already had) so I assumed it was just the same feed.
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 23:12 |
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I went to the start of the race and it kicks rear end. If you ever get a chance and haven’t definitely try to get to a track. It’s loud as hell and smells like poo poo and is exciting the whole time.
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Custard Undies posted:Is this only streaming on Peacock? Trying to watch in Australia but not finding any options compared to last few years If your country doesn’t have a Proper TV deal, then you can watch the IMSA TV feed, which combines the videos with the IMSA Radio feed (powered by Radio Le Mans). Even if you get Peacock in the US, it might be worth putting the IMSA Radio feed on just for the dulcet Mackem tones of John Hindaugh. And yeah, the 787B was last active 30+ years ago, but still gets wheeled out occasionally… https://youtu.be/neHfmMeRr9Q
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 23:28 |
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Scott Dixon with half his undertray flapping about.
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 00:14 |
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Anime Store Adventure posted:I went to the start of the race and it kicks rear end. If you ever get a chance and haven’t definitely try to get to a track. It’s loud as hell and smells like poo poo and is exciting the whole time. the start of le mans when I went was a banger. They timed also sprach zarathustra so the climax hit and was then overtaken by the sound of engines as the cars took the green flag
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 00:21 |
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The leading P2 appears to have broke. And one of the Porsches has lost 20 laps with a battery problem?
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 01:58 |
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They are so slow on cold tyres it is bordering on dangerous. They are brake checking GT cars after passing on the straight
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 02:08 |
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We have GrosjeanCam The coldness is something I hadn't considered - not only are drivers on cold tires when they leave the pits, but the ambient temperature is near freezing and the track is cold. Definitely different from what I see in F1
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 07:11 |
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Oh did it drop more than they thought overnight then, about when I was watching yesterday evening UK they didn't expect it to go below 60F track temp. EDIT : Yeah it's 67F out there right now at 5:30am, not exactly near freezing. Dudley fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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God I love Sleepy Mechanic Hours.
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 12:28 |
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Fascinating, that Acuras were quicker in the day, the Cadis better at night, the BMW just slow and both Porsches have had dramas. In short: Endurance Racing Rules. GT classes seem stupidly close as well.
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algebra testes posted:God I love Sleepy Mechanic Hours. Yeah the Cadillac and the Acura seem tops right now, I think it may even come down to the proverbial three bites at it instead of two for everyone else. Dawn at Daytona.
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 13:12 |
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https://twitter.com/IronLynx_/status/1619656750826921984?s=20
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 13:16 |
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Dudley posted:Oh did it drop more than they thought overnight then, about when I was watching yesterday evening UK they didn't expect it to go below 60F track temp. Oh man, I must've misunderstood the broadcast team Grosjean back out there
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 16:13 |
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Porsche #6 just spewed a load of smoke. Race looks over for them.
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 16:55 |
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biglads posted:Porsche #6 just spewed a load of smoke. Race looks over for them. Oof, they just showed the replay of the #6 on the super speedway and it looks bad Just looked at the timing, the #7 BMW made up a ton of laps overnight They were down like 133 laps and now only 16
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# ? Jan 29, 2023 17:00 |
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curried lamb of God posted:Oof, they just showed the replay of the #6 on the super speedway and it looks bad sure youre not thinking of the number 25 bmw theyre still down 133 laps edit imsa radio just mentioned https://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/imsa/ which i wish i knew about at the start of the race the live position map is a treat Sexual Lorax fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Sure why not. Lmao what a finish.
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Sexual Lorax posted:sure youre not thinking of the number 25 bmw theyre still down 133 laps Ah gently caress you're right Holy poo poo that LMP2 ending
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curried lamb of God posted:Holy poo poo that LMP2 ending
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curried lamb of God posted:Holy poo poo that LMP2 ending
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curried lamb of God posted:
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curried lamb of God posted:Holy poo poo that LMP2 ending
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