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Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

fadam posted:

I’d rather play against MH block constructed decks for the rest of my life than play against KCI again lol, I hated that deck so much.

I know it had a good WR but it never felt broken to me, just aggravating. Sometimes cards should be banned just for being annoying imo.

That being said, it was cool that a deck like KCI could exist next to decks like Humans or Shadow or Tron. One of the strengths of Magic imo is how weird decks can get while still working in the rules. Maybe it shouldn’t be banned idk.

It definitely fell into the "too many steps" category where games just took too dang long with KCI around

Also it always felt a little weird that it exploited the way paying for spells work, but I think that's a pretty cool angle

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Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
Part of the problem was since it was a tier 1 deck you had people picking up the deck and trying to play it without enough practice. As you got more practice with the deck, you could go off more reliably and find a loop more easily.

I also think it's a cool story that the components were all there for a year or so after Aether Revolt came out before the deck came together, and Matt Nass basically single-handedly made it a mainstream deck by dominating GPs

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

Anyone have any display setups they like for cards they don't intend to play with, and just have because they look cool?

I was nervous about this when I ordered it, but I think it looks pretty good for these cards. I'm happier with this than I thought it would be, I think I can convince my partner to do the same for her Junji Ito cards.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
I have a bunch of secret lair cards I bought just because I really liked the art. Probably just gonna fill up a binder with them.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Chainclaw posted:

Anyone have any display setups they like for cards they don't intend to play with, and just have because they look cool?

I was nervous about this when I ordered it, but I think it looks pretty good for these cards. I'm happier with this than I thought it would be, I think I can convince my partner to do the same for her Junji Ito cards.



I'm currently trying to find the gaudiest, "blingiest" frame I can for my counterfeit Power 9 lol

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Chainclaw posted:

Anyone have any display setups they like for cards they don't intend to play with, and just have because they look cool?

I was nervous about this when I ordered it, but I think it looks pretty good for these cards. I'm happier with this than I thought it would be, I think I can convince my partner to do the same for her Junji Ito cards.



Its really okay to like what you like. I think that looks really clean.

I wish I could find these silly huge hard cases for playmats as I have a few I want to hang up but don't have a good way to. Supply chain issues!

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Charity Porno posted:

I'm currently trying to find the gaudiest, "blingiest" frame I can for my counterfeit Power 9 lol

AllieExpress has some pretty godawful resin frames

maybe do them individually in something like these? each one is its own work of art after all



(you can probably really jazz them up with some metallic spray paint)

LGD fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jan 28, 2023

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

LGD posted:

AllieExpress has some pretty godawful resin frames

maybe do them individually in something like these?



This is perfect for wearing it around your neck when you go out

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Edit: I still think about this one, years later



That's a deep cut. Great card

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Some Secret Lairs sure to ellicit opinions;




Top has alright value but is a bit too meme-y for me.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





big cummers ONLY posted:

This is perfect for wearing it around your neck when you go out

gonna wear my black lotus around my neck

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012


These are some of the most incredible decklists I've ever seen, why isn't this format real?

We gotta do a no-ban modern goon league, it'll be fun as hell

Maigius
Jun 29, 2013


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Some Secret Lairs sure to ellicit opinions;




Top has alright value but is a bit too meme-y for me.

If the top set is Lisa Frank inspired, I had a bunch of folders that looked like that in elementary school.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Some Secret Lairs sure to ellicit opinions;




Top has alright value but is a bit too meme-y for me.

The rest of them:







Absolutely getting the one with Sakashima, torn between either getting the one with Inkmoth Nexus or the one with Counterbalance.

I like the Lisa Frank-ish one but I have no use for any of them whatsoever.

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land

Tom Clancy is Dead posted:

Does it? It looks like Dark Depths + Oko Artifacts, and then a lot of worse nonsense people were trying out. It looks like a great theorycraft tournament that would likely crystalize into a poo poo format to me.

Probably oko still can't be allowed, yeah. I bet that meta could shift around Dark Depths though, there's a lot of options if I can can play a white deck and not feel silly getting run over by oko valuetown

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
I think the consensus is that NBL modern is a fun diversion to see what could be possible, but has a high potential to collapse into The Best Deck once people actually start labbing the format

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

NBL Modern except murktide winds up still being #1 because it gets simian spirit guide, gitaxian probe and faithless looting

Saucer Crab
Apr 3, 2009




https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/january-21-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement

The KCI ban was a combination of power and rules complexity and being annoying from taking forever, yeah.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

without vanilla creatures where are you going to weave in flavor text that isn't about the major plot but about giving a better feel for the small details of the world



Edit: I still think about this one, years later



They seem so averse to writing flavor text, I bet they added it as a mechanic in Unfinity just to have an excuse to not write flavor text in the offchane there's room for it. It's nice they do borderless cards with no reminder text on keywords, but then they just leave this big gap instead of writing some flavor text with the freed space

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Saucer Crab posted:

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/january-21-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement

The KCI ban was a combination of power and rules complexity and being annoying from taking forever, yeah.

I like to think that part of what made it be so powerful was owing to the rules complexity didn’t do it any favors either

Salvor_Hardin
Sep 13, 2005

I want to go protest.
Nap Ghost

Silhouette posted:

NBL Modern except murktide winds up still being #1 because it gets simian spirit guide, gitaxian probe and faithless looting

This happened at my LGS. did an informal NBL modern tournament and got like 30 entrants. The winner was burn splashing for treasure cruise.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

TheKingofSprings posted:

I like to think that part of what made it be so powerful was owing to the rules complexity didn’t do it any favors either
The simultaneous Myr Retriever/Scrap Trawler sacrifice was some top quality rules nonsense

jpmeyer
Jan 17, 2012

parody image of che

Saucer Crab posted:

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/january-21-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement

The KCI ban was a combination of power and rules complexity and being annoying from taking forever, yeah.

Kci also straight up doesn't work on modo, not like "you can't do infinite loops online" but the client doesn't understand the bizarre rules interactions like "cast mox opal by simultaneously sacrificing myr retriever and scrap trawler"

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I thought the ruling was that you can't do that unless you're casting a spell that costs at least 1 mana.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Scrolling through the list of all lands today and I really think they should ban basic lands or make them legendary. They're OP and warp every meta. So many really cool land cards nobody ever plays because basic lands are just better. Who is going to play Nomad Stadium in a format where Plains exists?

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

Hm I've never heard of Nomad Stadium

*goes to scryfall*

I guess that's why

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Khanstant posted:

Scrolling through the list of all lands today and I really think they should ban basic lands or make them legendary. They're OP and warp every meta. So many really cool land cards nobody ever plays because basic lands are just better. Who is going to play Nomad Stadium in a format where Plains exists?

Source your quotes

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

Qwertycoatl posted:

Hm I've never heard of Nomad Stadium

*goes to scryfall*

I guess that's why

That's an impressively bad card, wow

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Same cycle as Cephalid Coliseum, in case you were wondering where the meme of "blue gets all the good cards and white gets absolute trash" comes from.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
Hey Nomad Stadium is a player*

(*Exclusively in Darien, King of Kjeldor edh decks)

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000
Sorrow's Path is my favourite terrible land, it manages to bewilder you before the last few words come in and demolish your psyche.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
Nomad stadium counters one whole lightning bolt, thats power baby

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land
It gains you all the life back that you lost tapping it for mana

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
I play two Nomad Stadiums, in WBG Lifegain Matters and WB Vampires (aka stealth Lifegain Matters)

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

mossyfisk posted:

Sorrow's Path is my favourite terrible land, it manages to bewilder you before the last few words come in and demolish your psyche.

Sorrow's Path is so bad it's good. Nomad Stadium is just bad.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

sit on my Facebook posted:

It gains you all the life back that you lost tapping it for mana

I didnt even notice that, lol. So it only trades with a lightning bolt if you use it for mana once, and youre down life in every other instance

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
They should take hisorically bad cards and make new cards meant to be combos with them. Like yeah noones actually gonna do it but itd just be funny to be like "here is the one artifact/enchantment/creature that is meant to be used with this lovely card from 1998"

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us
Enough of that happens on its own. I didn't see Squandered Resources or Cadaverous Bloom used until Weatherlight came out.

generatrix
Aug 8, 2008

Nothing hurts like a scrape

mandatory lesbian posted:

They should take hisorically bad cards and make new cards meant to be combos with them. Like yeah noones actually gonna do it but itd just be funny to be like "here is the one artifact/enchantment/creature that is meant to be used with this lovely card from 1998"

Sorrow’s Bridge
Land
T: add 1
Whenever a permanent you control deals damage to you or a creature you control it deals the same amount of damage to target blocking creature.

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Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

mossyfisk posted:

Sorrow's Path is my favourite terrible land, it manages to bewilder you before the last few words come in and demolish your psyche.



:psyduck:

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