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Henchman of Santa posted:Breaking Bad and The Wire are also hilarious sometimes. Having some sort of levity is just standard drama writing. I've only seen the first two seasons of Breaking Bad but the contrast between the silly moments and the serious moments honestly makes me like the show less. The DEA agent will randomly switch between keystone cop, super racist, or crippling PTSD at the drop of the hat. Walt will randomly switch between being the dad from Malcolm in the Middle and relentlessly berating Jesse for several minutes straight or just watching someone choke to death on their own vomit. Even Skyler is just kind of randomly cruel to somebody for no apparent reason every few episodes to keep her from being too sympathetic.
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Skyler has the problem that she is supposedly the moral high ground character, but there isn't much to her character beyond that and she isn't even doing a good job of actually being that moral of a character. People blame sexism for people disliking her, but there isn't anything to like in the first place and its the fault of the writers.
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Jan 28, 2023 07:34
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Vandar posted:This brings us to 2013, and the Megatokyo Kickstarter. what is it with mediocre webcomic artists somehow amassing these huge followings? For as blah as things like Questionable Content are, at least Jeph sticks to a consistent update schedule, and has for most of the comic run. Aaron Diaz and others somehow get thousands of dollars a month to do gently caress all but be smug on social media
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Jan 28, 2023 08:21
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Aces High posted:what is it with mediocre webcomic artists somehow amassing these huge followings? For as blah as things like Questionable Content are, at least Jeph sticks to a consistent update schedule, and has for most of the comic run. Aaron Diaz and others somehow get thousands of dollars a month to do gently caress all but be smug on social media He cornered the weebs with a blatant self insert fantasy in almost manga style. It's hard to overstate just how low the bar was and how powerful inertia is.
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Jan 28, 2023 08:23
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Thanks for that. But THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS! Holy poo poo, did not know about that.
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Jan 28, 2023 08:33
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MokBa posted:All this talk of Megatokyo and no mention that it has turned into a completely pro-republican, anti-trans comic that could be written by Scott Adams himself. Just the most heinous poo poo imaginable put to the page. That's actually disappointing. For all I make fun of his lazy weebness, I honestly expected more of him than that.
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Jan 28, 2023 08:33
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MokBa posted:All this talk of Megatokyo and no mention that it has turned into a completely pro-republican, anti-trans comic that could be written by Scott Adams himself. Just the most heinous poo poo imaginable put to the page. are you thinking of sinfest? i never read megatokyo but i cant find anything on google about this. all i got was one of the author talking about being annoyed by republicans.
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Jan 28, 2023 08:46
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the funniest sinfest comic is this where i think the joke is meant to be that 'oh these leftists they call anyone nazis they're brainwashed' but it just comes across correct
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Aces High posted:what is it with mediocre webcomic artists somehow amassing these huge followings? For as blah as things like Questionable Content are, at least Jeph sticks to a consistent update schedule, and has for most of the comic run. Aaron Diaz and others somehow get thousands of dollars a month to do gently caress all but be smug on social media Megatokyo hit the internet and began building its fanbase at JUST the perfect time in history for it to gather a dedicated fanbase. Online fandom was just becoming a thing and anime/manga in the west was starting to build up a ton of popularity thanks to things like Toonami, and you had a lot of people getting into it at the absolute best possible. Making an manga-styled comic with two self-insert leads that was about ANIME and GAMING and AW SHUCKS TOKYO IS SUCH AN AMAZING WONDERLAND was basically easy mode to building a fanbase, and to his credit he did manage to keep a decently consistent schedule for several years before falling off completely. Endorph posted:are you thinking of sinfest? i never read megatokyo but i cant find anything on google about this. all i got was one of the author talking about being annoyed by republicans. Now that you mention it, that probably is what they're referring to. Megillah Gorilla posted:Thanks for that. It still completely baffles me that the Kickstarter made that much. Like, if you were enough of a fan to donate any amount of money to it, then you KNOW how bad Fred is about deadlines and completing projects and getting anything done. Why would you donate anything at all to the project, knowing what you know about him?
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Jan 28, 2023 09:03
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pentyne posted:This is definitely an area where Boardwalk Empire botched it, just non stop unrelenting misery. It's the only lrestige series i've watched and enjoyed personally
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Jan 28, 2023 09:11
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9/11 still hasn't happened yet in Megatokyo, right? Like they're still in early 2001 in the comic? Or even still in late 2000, I forget.
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Jan 28, 2023 09:55
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:9/11 still hasn't happened yet in Megatokyo, right? Like they're still in early 2001 in the comic? Or even still in late 2000, I forget. They’ve been in Japan for less than a year but at the same time Metal Gear Solid 4 has already came out so… Fred gave up trying to have the timeframe make any sense a long time ago.
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as mentioned, you can't really blame people for initially being disappointed with WW. even if you preferred the artstyle over the 2000 spaceworld demo/twilight princess, nintendo built up expectations and to pull a 180 out of the blue was going to result in some level of backlash. though i do find it amusing in retrospect. i absolutely loathed wind waker for the longest time, up until the point that i finally played it and not only did it actually look quite pleasing, but the game wound up being the most enjoyable zelda for me since ocarina of time Aces High posted:what is it with mediocre webcomic artists somehow amassing these huge followings? For as blah as things like Questionable Content are, at least Jeph sticks to a consistent update schedule, and has for most of the comic run. Aaron Diaz and others somehow get thousands of dollars a month to do gently caress all but be smug on social media you could probably argue that they weren't as awful as megatokyo, but the penny arcade guys made literally MILLIONS off their mediocre rear end comics 
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Jan 28, 2023 10:28
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Mr Interweb posted:as mentioned, you can't really blame people for initially being disappointed with WW. i was like 8 when it came out and even i knew that it looked awesome
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Jan 28, 2023 11:19
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There are complaints you can make about Wind Waker, like how they pretty obvious cut two dungeons out of the game and implemented the tedious Triforce hunt, but the graphics absolutely hold up. There was a remaster but even the original game looks incredible to this day. And for all the guff it got for not being the Spaceworld demo, it's probably the most mature Zelda in terms of storytelling, the only one to make Ganon a compelling character, and the final scene with him is still probably the most violent act that's occurred in the series.
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Jan 28, 2023 12:56
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Endorph posted:are you thinking of sinfest? i never read megatokyo but i cant find anything on google about this. all i got was one of the author talking about being annoyed by republicans. Vandar posted:Now that you mention it, that probably is what they're referring to.
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Endorph posted:are you thinking of sinfest? i never read megatokyo but i cant find anything on google about this. all i got was one of the author talking about being annoyed by republicans. Oh you are right! I am always mixing these two up. Sorry to slander the good name of Megatokyo with heinous accusations. I’m not sure where the confusion came in.
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I'm disappointed that there's been all this talk of Wind Waker and not one person has called it 'Celda' yet.  Mr Interweb posted:you could probably argue that they weren't as awful as megatokyo, but the penny arcade guys made literally MILLIONS off their mediocre rear end comics The Penny Arcade guys have at the very least tried to give back over their career with things like the Child's Play charity and tried to highlight other artists with things like Strip Search. They've made millions but at least they've tried to funnel some of it back toward good things. MokBa posted:Oh you are right! I am always mixing these two up. Sorry to slander the good name of Megatokyo with heinous accusations. I’m not sure where the confusion came in. Terrible comics with vaguely anime aesthetics. I can see how the mix-up happened.
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I went to look up Sinfest out of morbid curiosity (wanting to see how much worse it's got since the last time I've looked) and the newest comic features Pepe. Goddamn I hate that stupid frog and I want to smack anyone who says 'IT'S BEEN RECLAIMED' right in the back of their head.
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Jan 28, 2023 16:30
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How’s Cyanide and Happiness doing? I still look for old ones every now and again, but there were so drat many that there had to be a few misses over the years.
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Jan 28, 2023 16:42
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Skyler has the problem that she is supposedly the moral high ground character, but there isn't much to her character beyond that and she isn't even doing a good job of actually being that moral of a character. People blame sexism for people disliking her, but there isn't anything to like in the first place and its the fault of the writers. I think the biggest problem with the character is that for a good chunk of the series she is off doing her own storylines that are unconnected to the larger goings on and that can be kind of boring.
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Mr Interweb posted:as mentioned, you can't really blame people for initially being disappointed with WW. I can and I do.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I think one of the issues with Wind Waker is that it didn't really look good in the low-quality screenshots/video of the era it was released. It falls under the same banner as like, Batman & Robin where it arrived at the exact wrong moment when a new medium of expression-- large-scale internet forums-- was finally big enough to get recognized by the media industry and no one predicted just how garbage pretentious, pampered suburban boys -- myself among them -- would get about art that they deemed precious and overidentified with. Not a coincidence that 15 years after all that we suddenly had a bunch of mature Nazis literally weaponizing that same tendency for political aims (and succeeding wildly!).
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Icon Of Sin posted:How’s Cyanide and Happiness doing? I still look for old ones every now and again, but there were so drat many that there had to be a few misses over the years. Crude and juvenile, but remarkably non-lovely as far as I can tell.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Skyler has the problem that she is supposedly the moral high ground character, but there isn't much to her character beyond that and she isn't even doing a good job of actually being that moral of a character. People blame sexism for people disliking her, but there isn't anything to like in the first place and its the fault of the writers. This is correct. On my fairly recent rewatch I paid more attention to her than any other character, specifically to make sure my distaste for her wasn't sexism. She's written really unsympathetically from the first episode, I guess to make her switch to the dark side make sense later on.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:9/11 still hasn't happened yet in Megatokyo, right? Like they're still in early 2001 in the comic? Or even still in late 2000, I forget. 9/11 happened in Megatokyo world, because there was a whole single-panel tribute comic of everyone sitting around a tv and crying at the news.
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the_steve posted:9/11 happened in Megatokyo world, because there was a whole single-panel tribute comic of everyone sitting around a tv and crying at the news. Two panels actually! https://megatokyo.com/strip/168 I just assumed it was out of canon myself.
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the_steve posted:9/11 happened in Megatokyo world, because there was a whole single-panel tribute comic of everyone sitting around a tv and crying at the news. speaking of 
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Vandar posted:That is far, far more people than I expected to be in it and while I'm not going to enter it myself (no touching the poop, after all), I am genuinely curious how there are that many people in there and how they haven't all became fed up with Lowtax and left.
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pentyne posted:speaking of 0. drat this art is bad. 1. Dr. Doom wouldn't care. 2. Kingpin might sort of care as a New Yorker. 3. At some points in his life Magneto might care, but in 2001 he was three years away from opening death camps for humans in Central Park.
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Did any superheroish comics have the guts to just roll with how their villains would actually respond to this?
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I started watching the 70s Britcom Robin's Nest and there's been a few casually racist remarks in just the first four episodes. Throwaway lines, but still.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Did any superheroish comics have the guts to just roll with how their villains would actually respond to this?
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Unless you meant literally 9/11 instead of any mass murder, in which case im not sure how many comics even actually reacted to it
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mandatory lesbian posted:Watchmen did, by dint of having one of the villains be the mastermind behind the terrorist attack I'm talking about responding to 9/11, not a fictional attack made up for the comic from the late 80s. Edit: This is a from few years after, but I just remembered that in The Boys the superhero team almost prevented 9/11 only to negligently reroute one of the hijacked planes to hit the Brooklyn Bridge instead of the Twin Towers. Absurd Alhazred has a new favorite as of 03:11 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Rochallor posted:0. drat this art is bad. Malfunctioning Doombot or Sad he didn't think of doing that to the Baxter building
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Did any superheroish comics have the guts to just roll with how their villains would actually respond to this? None that I can think of on the villain side. Ex Machina has the main character successfully saving one of the towers as part of his backstory, that's all I've got. Honestly with all of the New York based villains there would have been some who felt bad about it! Like the Vulture or somebody was like, drat, man... Kingpin, whether he was personally moved or not, definitely wore one of those pins lost past the point where it was fashionable.
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Rochallor posted:0. drat this art is bad. Don't forget that Juggernaut is standing there right behind Doom and, in universe, he personally destroyed one of the Twin Towers.  
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Mister Kingdom posted:I started watching the 70s Britcom Robin's Nest and there's been a few casually racist remarks in just the first four episodes. Throwaway lines, but still. Well if it's racism you're looking for, British shows from the 70s are the loving motherlode. No matter how bad you think they are - they're worse.
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