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Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Devils Affricate posted:

The characters were mechanically unique, and consumable items actually mattered. The timed button presses were fairly basic, but FF7 didn't even have that. It also had minor platforming outside of combat, while the gameplay outside of combat in FF7 was nonexistent, just running from place to place and pressing X at NPCs.

I hate times button presses in turn-based games. It's basically just a quicktime event. Which also should never exist.

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Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

my usual choice in RPGs this days is alt-f4 and uninstall

Reminds me of playing FF8 on PC. They were so lazy with the port that they didn't even add a "quit game" option, since on PSX you'd just eject the disk and restart the console. You had to press Ctrl+Q. Like, that was the official way according to the manual.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Nap Ghost

QuarkJets posted:

Finally, a statement on which everyone can agree

I knew I would say something smart if I just kept talking

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Phigs posted:

I hate times button presses in turn-based games. It's basically just a quicktime event. Which also should never exist.

Look at this guy who hates Tifa

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

QuarkJets posted:

Finally, a statement on which everyone can agree

skyrim has been released more times than any other video game... why would they keep doing this if it sucked

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fur20 posted:

skyrim has been released more times than any other video game... why would they keep doing this if it sucked

Because Bethesda is run by deeply stupid people but lmao there's no way your post is true when Tetris exists. Even Minecraft has probably seen more re-releases than Skyrim of all things

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Bethesda doesn't make video games. They make mountainous terrain engines that serve as mod platforms. The campaigns that ship with them are basically just demos.

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

Devils Affricate posted:

Bethesda doesn't make video games. They make mountainous terrain engines that serve as mod platforms. The campaigns that ship with them are basically just demos.

Skyrim is the example project that comes with Bethesda RPG Maker 11.

Joke's on me for thinking that the True Directional Movement mod would make combat tolerable. There's no modding this into a good game, just play one that was made by competent designers to begin with.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Fur20 posted:

persona 5 takes a long rear end time to finish, the dungeons keep getting longer and longer. if you thought the casino was long, just wait until etc etc.

play grandia 1 for the first time instead

I like Grandia 1 but it is the exemplar of a long rear end JRPG. The whole thing is like 70 hours, it has far more tedious combat and way less interesting dungeons to boot.

Persona 5's biggest issue is that they decided to tack on a whole new massive side story after the final boss in Royal, so you're forced to do what amounts to DLC content before you actually get to roll credits. That whole thing should have been selectable from the menu instead.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Devils Affricate posted:

Reminds me of playing FF8 on PC. They were so lazy with the port that they didn't even add a "quit game" option, since on PSX you'd just eject the disk and restart the console. You had to press Ctrl+Q. Like, that was the official way according to the manual.

I'm pretty sure I just close every game by alt-f4ing anyway.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
people say mobas are the worst games but it's online shooters that are the worst, just thousands of people running around in COD and pubG violently gunning down each other, say what you want about league of legends but it looks pretty and has anime waifus, not just senseless violence on repeat all day

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
I just finished up The Banner Saga 3. Cool series. It doesn't necessarily knock it out of the park but it has a rad style, some excellent music and some really good ideas. I'm glad it exists and I'm glad I finally checked out the sequels.

I did enjoy the gameplay but I don't think it was meaty enough to last 3 games, even as they tried to add new mechanics. That definitely lead to the games getting weaker as it went on, but I think the writing and the role playing was strong throughout and it told a good, complete fantasy story.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

JollyBoyJohn posted:

people say mobas are the worst games but it's online shooters that are the worst, just thousands of people running around in COD and pubG violently gunning down each other, say what you want about league of legends but it looks pretty and has anime waifus, not just senseless violence on repeat all day

a central mechanic of mobas is spawning waves of mooks solely so that they can get cut down over and over

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Devils Affricate posted:

Reminds me of playing FF8 on PC. They were so lazy with the port that they didn't even add a "quit game" option, since on PSX you'd just eject the disk and restart the console. You had to press Ctrl+Q. Like, that was the official way according to the manual.

O no

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Devils Affricate posted:

Reminds me of playing FF8 on PC. They were so lazy with the port that they didn't even add a "quit game" option, since on PSX you'd just eject the disk and restart the console. You had to press Ctrl+Q. Like, that was the official way according to the manual.

That's the key combo a lot of old DOS games used, strange choice. Maybe the developer was feeling nostalgic.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



JollyBoyJohn posted:

people say mobas are the worst games but it's online shooters that are the worst, just thousands of people running around in COD and pubG violently gunning down each other, say what you want about league of legends but it looks pretty and has anime waifus, not just senseless violence on repeat all day

Ahri gunning me down with a laser accurate MP5SD and calling me a slur in a voice that I can smell...the dream...

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

The zombies in RE2 are NOT No Limit soldiers!!

Nae
Sep 3, 2020

what.

Serephina posted:

Who gets loaded up with blue materia and becomes a caster and who just punches. Optionally, stuff with like Barret getting the highest natural HP while also punching from the backline allows for some interesting protect-materia tricks iirc.

It's not a deep system, and requires a unfeasable amount of grinding to do any cool materia linkup tricks, but it is there. I don't recall any such poo poo from Mario RPG, the characters just did what they came with.

all of those questions about character roles become moot once you get enough summons to turn the party into a cutscene-and-killing machine

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Nae posted:

all of those questions about character roles become moot once you get enough summons to turn the party into a cutscene-and-killing machine

really my biggest complaint about FF7. IMO the RPG underneath kinda sucks the same as FFVI. Its pretty easy to thrash the regular game but its like twenty hours of grinding to figure out KOTR, and then its sitting around for 20 minutes watching that cutscene play over and over against Emerald Weapon

FF7s minigames are way better than FFVI though. Kinda seems like the big difference between the later FFs is the quality of their minigames

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

The only RPG with good combat that I can remember is Battle Brothers

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

The zombies in RE2 are NOT No Limit soldiers!!

Make em say UHHHH

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

NPC 50 Cent yelling "NPC-UNIT!"

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Devils Affricate posted:

Reminds me of playing FF8 on PC. They were so lazy with the port that they didn't even add a "quit game" option, since on PSX you'd just eject the disk and restart the console. You had to press Ctrl+Q. Like, that was the official way according to the manual.

I've gotten in the habit of alt-f4ing for every pc game (after saving!) because they keep doing stupid stuff like only putting the quit game button on the main menu which you have to wait though a loading screen to visit

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

I've gotten in the habit of alt-f4ing for every pc game (after saving!) because they keep doing stupid stuff like only putting the quit game button on the main menu which you have to wait though a loading screen to visit

:haibrower:

The quit to desktop button in Destiny 2 is layered 2-3 menu choices deep under Settings :dafuq:

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

deep dish peat moss posted:

The only RPG with good combat that I can remember is Battle Brothers

play Bowser's Inside Story

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Any game that forces you to quit to menu before you can quit out of it should be destroyed

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Any game that forces you to quit to menu before you can quit out of it should be destroyed

:hmmyes:

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Yeah I typically Alt F4 out of games too, but it's still strangely unsettling when a game just straight up lacks a way to quit via the UI lol

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Nap Ghost

deep dish peat moss posted:

NPC 50 Cent yelling "NPC-UNIT!"

please just give 50 Cent his skull back

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

QuarkJets posted:

Because Bethesda is run by deeply stupid people but lmao there's no way your post is true when Tetris exists. Even Minecraft has probably seen more re-releases than Skyrim of all things

loving tetris!!!

Beartaco posted:

I like Grandia 1 but it is the exemplar of a long rear end JRPG. The whole thing is like 70 hours, it has far more tedious combat and way less interesting dungeons to boot.

No way, I totally cleared that in like 40-50, I don't recall it being any longer than FF7. The combat is... the pupative state of Grandia 2, but as much as I enjoyed that, I thought 1's story and characters were just so much better.

I guess it would take 70 hours to unlock Feena's Time Stop spell but, uhh

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

If unofficial ports count I am pretty certain that Doom has been on more platforms than any other game :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1gcoyo5Ssk

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

deep dish peat moss posted:

If unofficial ports count I am pretty certain that Doom has been on more platforms than any other game :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1gcoyo5Ssk

tbf the pregnancy test is just a monitor

the scaling is impressive, though

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

MrQwerty posted:

tbf the pregnancy test is just a monitor

the scaling is impressive, though

It's even worse than that, he modded the pregnancy test to add an LCD screen and a CPU to it (but yeah it's still just a monitor)

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

deep dish peat moss posted:

It's even worse than that, he modded the pregnancy test to add an LCD screen and a CPU to it

lol yeah he soldered a loving bga cpu for that. in the off chance a 100 pin bga cpu on one of the motherboards I make at work is cockeyed, you know what I do? scrap that poo poo, it's not even worth it.

still cool even if it's totally misrepresented

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Nap Ghost

deep dish peat moss posted:

If unofficial ports count I am pretty certain that Doom has been on more platforms than any other game :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1gcoyo5Ssk

they have gotten so good at this you could play Doom on the oscilloscope that controlled the first moon landing

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


i can close my eyes and run doom on my brain

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

The lickers in RE2 don't have any scene where they lick a lollipop, even though it would make perfect sense for the character.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Some of my favorites are:

Doom on a TI-84 calculator powered by potatoes:


And Doom running in the graphic drivers control panel inside the 2016 Doom:

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Nap Ghost

Panic! At The Tesco posted:

i can close my eyes and run doom on my brain

this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZMg9ryeWOw
or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl-xcjlfswo

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Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART



either

my brain is at least an i7 of some description and maybe a 20 series nvidia GPU

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