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abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

take it back immediately and make them fix it. a new bike should be flawless in its tune when it leaves the shop

i ended up taking it to my normal bike guy since he's a lot closer, and since i'd been going there a lot he was like "eh yeah i'll give you a discount but don't gently caress with these brakes yourself again and also don't trust the brompton bike shop," only charged me a little bit for the adjustment :v:

(i lucked out that my guy otherwise loves bromptons himself and used to own one. he's even got some 16 inch tires and tubes there, which i figured i'd have to order special since it seems like not that many shops have them)

kimbo305 posted:

Ime, the reach of the levers is annoying, but the overriding factor is how far down they’re angled, which was constrained on my bike by the folded up arrangement of the handlebar. If they were more horizontal, it’d be easier to pull back to you, but then they’d hit the frame. Maybe depends on your handlebar model.

But yeah, the handlebar reach is definitely challenging for smaller hands.

what's interesting here - I was trying to do the adjustments for my partner (who does have much smaller hands than me), who both didn't like the vertical angle of the bars and also didn't like the distance to the levers. the angle is supposed to be because of the folded positioning, as you mentioned. what I was surprised by is that once you bring the levers in, you have way more room to then adjust the vertical angle. on my bike they're now basically 45 degrees out instead of that full 90 degrees under, and they fold up just fine.

so there definitely are options, just, as Jokerpilled Druge said, they really should have asked about it before we left with it from the brompton shop IMO, since we had already been talking to them about how worried we were about sizing the bike properly

abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 31, 2023

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ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

Crumps Brother posted:



RAGBRAI announced the overnight towns over the weekend. I'm pretty excited because although I wasn't able to ride last year I'll actually be around the area this time. Looks like currently I'll bet riding on Wednesday for the Ames to DSM leg. Depending on the route details I wonder if I could swing Thursday as well. Only time will tell, I guess.

Grumpwagon posted:

I'm signed up for the week! Super excited as well

July in Iowa. Yeah that'll be fun.

Might try to ride that section too, though I expect it'll be the heaviest day due to proximity and distance.

I think that's FoCo Fondo weekend too. Might have to think about that.

dema
Aug 13, 2006

I'm doing FoCo Fondo as part of https://www.coloradosummerofgravel.com/

Also got into SBT GRVL again but it doesn't look like I can make it. Have a conflict. Sad.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

dema posted:

I'm doing FoCo Fondo as part of https://www.coloradosummerofgravel.com/

Also got into SBT GRVL again but it doesn't look like I can make it. Have a conflict. Sad.
Not local but looking to move there at... Some point. So I was interested in riding it. Next year, probably. Lots of events already scheduled.

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003

OC chat: I carry POM pepper spray daily and usually while riding as well. I like the pocket clip version and you can even match your jersey/bike colors if you want. Gels have a bit better range and are less affected by wind but you need to be more accurate, sprays also absorb faster and are less easily wiped off. Sort of a pick your battles thing but I feel confident with the spray.

https://pompepperspray.com/

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

The Ames to Des Moines leg is looking to set a world record - https://www.kcci.com/article/ragbrai-leaders-want-ames-to-des-moines-to-be-biggest-bicycle-parade/42711764

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

Can someone help me decide on sizing?

I’m looking at an Orbea Terra for a gravel bike. I’m in between sizes so not sure whether to get medium or large.

Size guide has me right at the top end of M. M would have like 8mm shorter reach than my trek once accounting for stems. Stack is close enough to not matter, would probably need a few spacers compared to trek as stack is 7mm lower. Would need like 30cm seat post showing on the M to match my normal height.

L has basically the same reach as my trek once you include stem length. Stack would be 15mm higher so I probably couldn’t go as low as my trek. But on a grav bike not sure I need that.

Was leaning towards M but not sure if the wayy shorter seat tube makes it weird having to have so much seat post exposed.

Especially with it being for gravel, I’m just not sure how much I should be trying to match my road bike measurements. My road bike is an Emonda H2 size 56. Fit measurements for that bike are:

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
better to get the smaller bike in that case though when you omit your body measurements its really hard to say

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
What bags/cages etc are you planning on putting on the bike, aside from the standard bottles in the main triangle?

resident
Dec 22, 2005

WE WERE ALL UP IN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUTHAFUCKA. IT'S CLEANER THAN A BROKE DICK DOG.

Crumps Brother posted:



RAGBRAI announced the overnight towns over the weekend. I'm pretty excited because although I wasn't able to ride last year I'll actually be around the area this time. Looks like currently I'll bet riding on Wednesday for the Ames to DSM leg. Depending on the route details I wonder if I could swing Thursday as well. Only time will tell, I guess.

My wife and I are finally going to do our first whole week. Im going to have to rethink my drinking pace this year if I want to survive

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Was inspired by all the Brompton talk here and grabbed a pair since my wife and I are looking to eliminate car trips in the coming year and our only other bikes are road / gravel bikes.

I cheaped out and got an A Line, my wife actually spent time and got herself a six speed C Line setup. I figure if hers makes me envious I can return and swap.

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Was inspired by all the Brompton talk here and grabbed a pair since my wife and I are looking to eliminate car trips in the coming year and our only other bikes are road / gravel bikes.

I cheaped out and got an A Line, my wife actually spent time and got herself a six speed C Line setup. I figure if hers makes me envious I can return and swap.

I'm actually super curious to hear how you get on with the A line. The Brompton I've been posting about is mostly for my partner, but I've been a bit jealous - it's a hell of a lot more nimble than my big hybrid (though much more effort to keep up at speed). I got my partner the 6-speed C as well, thought being it can get over NYC's bridges more easily than a 3-speed could. Since I've got the hybrid for long rides over bridges, figure the 3 speeds on the A line would be more than enough for puttering around town.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


abraham linksys posted:

I'm actually super curious to hear how you get on with the A line. The Brompton I've been posting about is mostly for my partner, but I've been a bit jealous - it's a hell of a lot more nimble than my big hybrid (though much more effort to keep up at speed). I got my partner the 6-speed C as well, thought being it can get over NYC's bridges more easily than a 3-speed could.

I've got monster legs already from cycling Pittsburgh hills for years, it'll be interesting. I may regret not getting the six speed but my understanding is that it isn't that hard to convert and I've got a workshop here.

We got the Bromptons on the understanding that at some point in the near future we're going to move off the tram line here to a neighborhood that's more dependent on buses + a trip to a centralized stop / busway and we don't want to make that a park-and-ride car trip when we can just take a bike.

Also the Bromptons are pretty much the same frame since forever so they're not gonna go obsolete. We can buy them today and get use out of them ten years down the line.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


quote:

I've been a bit jealous - it's a hell of a lot more nimble than my big hybrid (

We got them specifically to replace big hybrids that we don't feel good about leaving locked up all day at work, that aren't fun to ride anyway.

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

Can someone help me decide on sizing?

I’m looking at an Orbea Terra for a gravel bike. I’m in between sizes so not sure whether to get medium or large.

Size guide has me right at the top end of M. M would have like 8mm shorter reach than my trek once accounting for stems. Stack is close enough to not matter, would probably need a few spacers compared to trek as stack is 7mm lower. Would need like 30cm seat post showing on the M to match my normal height.

L has basically the same reach as my trek once you include stem length. Stack would be 15mm higher so I probably couldn’t go as low as my trek. But on a grav bike not sure I need that.

Was leaning towards M but not sure if the wayy shorter seat tube makes it weird having to have so much seat post exposed.

Especially with it being for gravel, I’m just not sure how much I should be trying to match my road bike measurements. My road bike is an Emonda H2 size 56. Fit measurements for that bike are:



Old conventional wisdom was to always size down if unsure. Smaller steel frames were stiffer and with horizontal top tubes you might not be able to lower the seatpost enough.

This is outdated.
It's really hard to get too big a frame (essentially: will you end up having to slam your seatpost?), but if you get too small a frame you have worse toe overlap, your weight is too far over the front wheel compromising handling, and you have a smaller triangle for frame bags. Modern frames are all plenty stiff.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
With that saddle height i'd probably lean toward a large. No local dealer that might have one? Or at least something with similar reach/stack you can try out. Like a large topstone and large terra are really close in stack/reach.

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

Arigato, Racists.

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

Can someone help me decide on sizing?

I’m looking at an Orbea Terra for a gravel bike. I’m in between sizes so not sure whether to get medium or large.

Size guide has me right at the top end of M. M would have like 8mm shorter reach than my trek once accounting for stems. Stack is close enough to not matter, would probably need a few spacers compared to trek as stack is 7mm lower. Would need like 30cm seat post showing on the M to match my normal height.

L has basically the same reach as my trek once you include stem length. Stack would be 15mm higher so I probably couldn’t go as low as my trek. But on a grav bike not sure I need that.

Was leaning towards M but not sure if the wayy shorter seat tube makes it weird having to have so much seat post exposed.

Especially with it being for gravel, I’m just not sure how much I should be trying to match my road bike measurements. My road bike is an Emonda H2 size 56. Fit measurements for that bike are:



To add a couple more things:
- 30 cm of seatpost showing seems like a lot. You can get longer of course but the one that came with my bike is only 35cm, with a minimum insertion length of 8cm. Could be the terra has a long post as standard though.
- Do you have the stem on your current bike completely slammed, or with some spacers still there? If you use spacers then you'll be able to reach a similarly low position on the terra.
- the 'gravel' geometry usually has a longer reach than road, but with a slightly higher stack and the excess reach made up for by using a slightly shorter stem

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Was inspired by all the Brompton talk here and grabbed a pair since my wife and I are looking to eliminate car trips in the coming year and our only other bikes are road / gravel bikes.

I cheaped out and got an A Line, my wife actually spent time and got herself a six speed C Line setup. I figure if hers makes me envious I can return and swap.
hell yeah!

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

Is anyone doing a titanium gravel/allroad frame with racier geo that's etap only? Only thing I can find is either a Ribble prototype or going custom. Thanks in advance!

osker
Dec 18, 2002

Wedge Regret

amenenema posted:

Is anyone doing a titanium gravel/allroad frame with racier geo that's etap only? Only thing I can find is either a Ribble prototype or going custom. Thanks in advance!

https://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/titanium-bikes

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

https://alpkit.com/collections/sonder-camino

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear - "etap only" meaning no cable bosses/downtube inlets - brake hose routing only (and ideally integrated into the cockpit/headset). Looking for the cleanest frame possible.

Development
Jun 2, 2016

amenenema posted:

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear - "etap only" meaning no cable bosses/downtube inlets - brake hose routing only (and ideally integrated into the cockpit/headset). Looking for the cleanest frame possible.

you could go full Gravel Tryhard (rip) and get a J. Guillem

https://jguillem.com/bike/major

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

Development posted:

you could go full Gravel Tryhard (rip) and get a J. Guillem

https://jguillem.com/bike/major

Well that's not a gravel bike and the Atalaya (which is) has provisions for cables. I appreciate the help but am I missing something on how to convey what I'm looking for? ;D

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

amenenema posted:

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear - "etap only" meaning no cable bosses/downtube inlets - brake hose routing only (and ideally integrated into the cockpit/headset). Looking for the cleanest frame possible.

This comes up https://bikerumor.com/why-bother-with-cable-ports-new-titanium-pure-road-bike-is-sram-wireless-only/

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003


Haha have considered it.


Cool, I'll keep an eye out for a gravel one from them!

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I assume moots would do that for you if you asked.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

jamal posted:

I assume moots would do that for you if you asked.

Oh I'm sure, just wasn't ready to plunk Moots Money if there was an off the shelf option.

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

Arigato, Racists.

amenenema posted:

Well that's not a gravel bike and the Atalaya (which is) has provisions for cables. I appreciate the help but am I missing something on how to convey what I'm looking for? ;D

https://www.enigmabikes.com/ and https://www.jlaverack.co.uk/ both let you customise the frame somewhat and include/remove parts, so they're probably able to do that.

Or you could go full custom with Waltly or Wittson etc.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

Heliosicle posted:

https://www.enigmabikes.com/ and https://www.jlaverack.co.uk/ both let you customise the frame somewhat and include/remove parts, so they're probably able to do that.

Or you could go full custom with Waltly or Wittson etc.

Much obliged. Anyone have opinions on the seemingly infinite number of Ti frame builders out there? All pretty much the same or are there meaningful differences between a Moots and Chinese stuff like Waltly?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
I have a JLaverack custom and it's a beautiful bike aside from it being delayed by over a year. I understand why but it was still a pain.

Heliosicle
May 16, 2013

Arigato, Racists.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

I have a JLaverack custom and it's a beautiful bike aside from it being delayed by over a year. I understand why but it was still a pain.

Well now you have to show us (if you like)

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

No personal experience but if I were deadset on titanium for a gravel bike, picky about options, and not ready to plunk down custom money, I'd go to Waltly.

But I'll also add that as someone who has fully integrated cable routing on his gravel bike, it sucks rear end and I un-integrated it as much of it as I could because I use my gravel bike enough that maintainability matters.

Also if you're ever gonna fly somewhere cool, fully integrated is extra annoying.

bicievino fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 1, 2023

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I'm old now but yesterday I got my FTP higher than it was 8 years ago. The 40+ categories are calling

Albinator
Mar 31, 2010

serious gaylord posted:

I'm old now but yesterday I got my FTP higher than it was 8 years ago. The 40+ categories are calling
I'm hearing there's still hope then? Seems unlikely...

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

bicievino posted:

No personal experience but if I were deadset on titanium for a gravel bike, picky about options, and not ready to plunk down custom money, I'd go to Waltly.

But I'll also add that as someone who has fully integrated cable routing on his gravel bike, it sucks rear end and I un-integrated it as much of it as I could because I use my gravel bike enough that maintainability matters.

Also if you're ever gonna fly somewhere cool, fully integrated is extra annoying.

Historically I've been 100% external/mechanical. But if I'm buying a "forever" frame (lol titanium buzzwords) then I figure I'll make it as forward thinking as possible. Two brake hoses, nothing else.

I can't see ever flying with my own bike. But point taken.

sweat poteto
Feb 16, 2006

Everybody's gotta learn sometime

bicievino posted:

No personal experience but if I were deadset on titanium for a gravel bike, picky about options, and not ready to plunk down custom money, I'd go to Waltly.

Agree with this. You'll get the geo and little features you want for a nice price.

I had a custom offshore ti bike made once upon a time and was happy with it. Went through about 5 rounds of BikeCAD tweaks by email and then had a frame.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


dema posted:

I'm doing FoCo Fondo as part of https://www.coloradosummerofgravel.com/

Also got into SBT GRVL again but it doesn't look like I can make it. Have a conflict. Sad.

You doing the long route? I signed up for the 53 miler.

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resident
Dec 22, 2005

WE WERE ALL UP IN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUTHAFUCKA. IT'S CLEANER THAN A BROKE DICK DOG.

I signed up for the ACE challenge at Tulsa Tough this June. It’s basically a motorcade escorted group peloton challenge to finish a century in under 5 hrs with 2x 2-5minute stops at miles 40 and 76. It looks like past lead groups tend to finish around 4:20-4:30 with a handful of stragglers coming in after. It should be a fun challenge but I’ll really need to figure out efficient nutrition intake.

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