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Testro posted:For over 2 years, I spent 98% of my time on my own. I did everything online - shopping, socialising, everything. The only visits I had outside were 3 routine medical appointments. and what about when the pandemic started
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Right after lockdown finished I got a cold and was completely floored by it, genuinely one of the worst colds I can remember having and it lasted for far longer than normal. I assume from living in a little bubble for multiple months. My immune system had just decided it wasn't needed anymore and had hosed off.
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Jan 31, 2023 19:26
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Tesseraction posted:and what about when the pandemic started I don't understand? Did I mess up the maths? My brain is really struggling with long covid. I said that I was on my own for over 2 years. I was fortunate enough not to catch covid in the weeks leading up to the first lockdown in March 2020. Then I caught covid in August 2022 - which is just over 2 years. I was then off work for over 5 months. Did I make a mistake with what I wrote? edit: oh gently caress me, it was a joke. my brain is mush.
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Jan 31, 2023 19:32
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jesus christ https://twitter.com/TungusBusko/status/1620415552442503168?cxt=HHwWgMDU_YHX7_wsAAAA
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Testro posted:edit: oh gently caress me, it was a joke. my brain is mush. Ah sorry now I feel like a bully, it was meant to be a throwaway line! For real though I'm sorry to hear about the long covid. Really hope we're able to develop cures or rehabilitation for it.
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Tesseraction posted:Ah sorry now I feel like a bully, it was meant to be a throwaway line! For real though I'm sorry to hear about the long covid. Really hope we're able to develop cures or rehabilitation for it. No, honestly - it's me, not you. As soon as I'd painstakingly explained, my brain finally kicked in. It appears I am about 3 hours behind everyone else at the moment. Just call me Avanti.
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Jan 31, 2023 19:36
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Just watching Mega Disasters Alien Infection on Blaze channel about possibility of a flu-like global pandemic. The programme was produced in 2008. (The alien bit comes from an idea that comet tails might bring new viruses to earth or getting samples from Mars & testing on Earth might also - some want to do remote testing on Mars, but some thing it would be better to bring them back to Earth to test - well I saw THAT movie and it didn't end well!)
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Jan 31, 2023 19:45
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Yeah I got long covid real bad after being made to go back into the office with everyone else to help the social people feel more able to collaborate and to justify them deciding to start renting a really expensive massive office in a relatively expensive town after having started a job working from home, onboarding being the hardest part of a job I'd say, so I'd have been more understanding if they'd made me come in for the start of it and then let me work from home later, the opposite of what they did. Feel like my quality of life has massively gone down, even the month after I got it back then the walk from the train station to my office and the stairs which I could stride up with the greatest of ease pre covid, left me completely shattered for ages afterwards and it's only gotten worse over the last year, I suppose it stops me exercising as much as I used to in general so my health in general will have gotten worse so it makes sense it feels like that. Struggled pretty hard to not be openly angry at the managers/owners of the company about it tbh.
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Jan 31, 2023 19:59
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It has been so utterly bizarre to watch companies twist themselves in knots trying to justify office work since lockdown. You'd think glorious capitalism would embrace the money saving on office space.
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Astonishing that the market is not perfectly rational and that institutions uphold the prejudices of their members rather than adapting enthusiastically to changing circumstances.
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Mate, I'm so sorry - it's horrid and so frustrating. I have a gym at home so I used to weightlift 3 times a week, and walk around 10 miles a week. Now I can't walk more than about 20 metres and I can't lift anything heavier than a mug of water; it's insane. But a few months ago, I could barely stand, so I have to appreciate that I'm making progress, even if it's slow. Did the NHS help you at all? I've been referred to the long covid clinic and they told me that the prognosis was promising, despite me hitting the symptom jackpot as they put it! If I pick up any helpful information, I'll happily share.
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Mega Comrade posted:It has been so utterly bizarre to watch companies twist themselves in knots trying to justify office work since lockdown. A lot of them/their mates have fingers in corporate real estate right?
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Jan 31, 2023 20:32
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That sucks, sympathies to the long covid sufferers. My partner also has had some longer-lasting effects a couple months after the main illness - she seems to get worn out quickly and can gets lightheaded during exercise - but not nearly as severe as you are describing. There was a recent Nature review about it and it's honestly pretty grim reading both in how many people it is likely affecting and how wide-ranging the effects are. I can only hope that with tens of millions of people affected there will be a lot of research going into good treatments for it.
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Mega Comrade posted:It has been so utterly bizarre to watch companies twist themselves in knots trying to justify office work since lockdown. My place of work, has just got a new boss who's first announcement is about a 'return to office'. The only time in 3 years I've been to the office was to pickup my laptop and a single week when I was swapping home internet providers. He also seems unaware that our big deficit reduction plan involves selling off 2 of our 3 office sites...
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:A lot of them/their mates have fingers in corporate real estate right? Some of it I'm certain is managers who didn't realise they spent so much time looking over peoples shoulders. They now feel redundant. I am very fortunate that when my last company said I needed to go back to the office at least twice a week I could just say "lol no" and change jobs. This wasn't even really covid related, I just realised how much more productive and happy I am working from home. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jan 31, 2023 |
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Jan 31, 2023 20:44
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Probably because most are!
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A manager that has to do some work for a change, tragic.
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What are your blokes thoughts on the grim assessment by the IMF, who have reported that the UK economy will fare far worse than any other major economy this year
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EmptyVessel posted:I'll not bother the thread again. I am one of your posting enemies. Don't disappear and let me win.
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the grim assessment by the IMF, who have reported that the UK economy will fare far worse than any other major economy this year You and the IMF love our major economy.
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Jan 31, 2023 21:42
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think the other wizards need to unionise and get a better master tbh
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the grim assessment by the IMF, who have reported that the UK economy will fare far worse than any other major economy this year our thoughts are that unfunny gimmick posters should gently caress off and not come back, hth
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Diet Crack posted:I presume I just had Covid with this last cold as it was from the boots type coughing - didn't go out much though for the sake of others and not spreading it though. You can still try to order them for free but they only send them if you give the right combination of answers (I have brain problems and cannot remember which is the right combination). Try your luck here: https://www.gov.uk/order-coronavirus-rapid-lateral-flow-tests Mega Comrade posted:It has been so utterly bizarre to watch companies twist themselves in knots trying to justify office work since lockdown. I'm in the middle of quitting my job as they've announced everyone is to return to the office in early March, so gently caress them, I'm going somewhere else that has gone permanently WFH. Telephone interview tomorrow, wish me luck!
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Angepain posted:think the other wizards need to unionise and get a better master tbh Do you think he makes all the wizards come into the office
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Microplastics posted:Do you think he makes all the wizards come into the office quarterly wizard team-building sessions
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is he the wizard he keeps declaring mandatory penis inspection day
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Jan 31, 2023 22:43
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Maybe its time we had a Witch Master instead
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Tesseraction posted:Honestly part of the problem was that the world collectively failed to contain this, but there was a definitely an element in many countries where the powers in charge were weighing up public safety vs. protecting The Line That Must Always Go Up but that had Stopped Going Up For A While. It's just frustrating that 100 years after the devastation of the I do wonder if it was something more visibly serious that there would have been more done to lock things down? Like plague levels, with bleeding from the eyes, etc. Or is society entitled and complacent to the point that even deadly outbreaks would just get normalised so that pockets of people could get their Starbucks?
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BalloonFish posted:
When the results were announced that Leave Won, most of the people in Ireland knew that the end results were going to be the hardest possible to no deal Brexit. It was the most logical (if irrational) endpoint. Brexit as it was presented and campaigned on was ultimately a bunch of nonsense. There was nothing in writing as to what a Leave Vote would entail .(the disadvantage to holding a referendum when you don't have a written constitution to tie it to.) So it immediately became this blank vote that anyone could write what it meant onto it. It would be like if Americans voted in an election "to Make America Great Again" with no explanation of what you were voting for. As such, every potential outcome ran into a simple problem. You try a negotiate a soft Brexit? What is the point, any deal you get would be manifestly worse than the status quo. As such the soft Brexiters just limply try and argue for what is a bad deal, while the ultra hardliners want to demand a harder and harder Brexit. Sure it's going to be the worse result, but the people who were hardline Brexiters are committed to the idea of Brexit and aren't going to let economic realities get in the way of it. Basically it could only end with the worst (or nearly the worst) possible result, because the nutters will demand the worst possible result. In Brexit related news a friend of mine went to Portugal for holiday around Christmas. The hotel was full of British OAP's who were giving out that Brexit meant they could only stay in the hotel for 3 months at a time (the maximum stay a non-EU citizen could stay.) We both noted that those people almost certainly also voted for Brexit.
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On maskchat: "Masks don't work unless everyone wears them" is only true for bad masks, and if you want to protect yourself then you can just get a good mask instead. Cloth masks are a fashion statement that do almost nothing to protect you and not much to protect other people. Surgical masks do a little to protect you and more to protect other people, but are still pretty pointless if no-one else is wearing them and you have to be around people for an extended period. Any air you breathe through an FFP2+ filter is completely and 100% safe, which means any mask with one of those in is as good as the seal between it and your face. For decent masks that isn't perfect, but it is still pretty good - especially given that even if you do get covid the severity correlates fairly well with how much virus you were infected with. I've used one of these cloth masks with insertable filters for the last year or so and completely avoided covid (and fresher's flu) despite air travel and extensive teaching in rooms filled with horrifyingly germy computer science people, except of course for the one loving time I met people with it off. They're maybe slightly harder to breathe/speak through than a standard cloth mask, but the difference is pretty minor and I find them easier than a surgical mask. If you or a loved one is immunocompromised and getting covid will kill you or them, there's a sliding scale of better-sealing masks culminating with these, which are absolutely 100% perfectly safe at the cost (or benefit?) of looking like a Batman villain. pumpinglemma fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jan 31, 2023 |
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big scary monsters posted:That sucks, sympathies to the long covid sufferers. My partner also has had some longer-lasting effects a couple months after the main illness - she seems to get worn out quickly and can gets lightheaded during exercise - but not nearly as severe as you are describing. There was a recent Nature review about it and it's honestly pretty grim reading both in how many people it is likely affecting and how wide-ranging the effects are. I can only hope that with tens of millions of people affected there will be a lot of research going into good treatments for it. one of the really interesting things about long covid is that, as I recall from professionals I follow, it seems that other similar infections have a chance of doing similar things and it just wasn't heavily studied until, uh, now In other words, some portion of long covid sufferers may be having long flu or something instead, and treatments for long covid are likely to be useful for long flu or something
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Yea, much of long covid is standard post-viral fatigue syndrome that happens sometimes when your body gets a nasty viral infection. It's just that before covid, nasty viral infections were not widespread at the population level - at least not in living memory. Remember how victorian period writers were always going on about "sickly" people? It's back. And given that if you are spectacularly unlucky, you can get a serious case of long covid from a fairly mild covid infection, that might be a explanation for random cases of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or MS people get - they got a mild strain of a winter flu that that just triggered their immune system wrong and congrats, you now have chronic fatigue because your body is constantly primed to fight itself. But there was no measures the government could have taken that would have prevented people getting covid and long covid eventually - it's just too endemic for that. Better controls could have spread the curve thinner and limit how many cases happened before vaccination, but as soon as it escaped China everyone was going to catch covid eventually, whenever in 3 months, 2 years or 5 years.
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My personal line for "well that's done it now" is when it jumped to deer and mice, but that was probably also inevitable when it escaped China. Insofar as it was ever possible with the pandemic it would have required the international medical community to be extremely on the ball (which eg Donald Trump interfered with but he wasn't the only problem), and China/Wuhan to be some combination of cooperative (Wuhan govt wasn't, I'm unclear about the feds) and competent (Wuhan govt wasn't, the feds did alright enough with what they had to work with after it became clear the local govt had thoroughly hosed everything). but yeah when a disease this infectious gets into rodents and large forest rodents it's never ever going away
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The only solution. We buy a defensible Barracks. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/126820367 Its got sash windows, most of which are broken. And tenants of the leaseholder in the east wing. And some kind of sports car.
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Mebh posted:The only solution. We buy a defensible Barracks. Well I have a new 'when I win the lottery' pipe dream to think about now, that thing is awesome Who the hell is living in the single finished apartment?
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HopperUK posted:Well I have a new 'when I win the lottery' pipe dream to think about now, that thing is awesome That (not the apartment) is going to come with such a huge list of restrictions and obligations. Things like Long Covid chat: About 20 years ago I got something that was diagnosed as pneumonia. The main part of it lasted about 4 weeks and 2x2weeks of extra large doses of anti-biotic prescriptions. Then I felt great for a couple of days, went swimming, did a mad amount of exercise, then wham. Couldn't do anything. Couldn't walk up a single flight of steps without my pulse racing at over 150, could barely drag myself to the local Sainsbury's (normally about 5 minutes walk away - was taking me nearly half an hour to get there), fatigued all the time. Slightest exertion making me cough. Dragging myself into uni once a week (luckily it was during my PhD and I mostly worked from home) to meet my supervisor or do the near-compulsory Friday morning 'ripping peoples' research apart' session. This lasted about 6 months. Also had a post-viral thing about 15 years before that - similar symptoms but only lasted about a month or so. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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