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15 | 3.71% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Frosted Flake posted:This is all Austria-Hungary's fault for creating Ukrainians though. Your career and personal financial situation would probably advance massively if you started telling people Galicia is the true Ukraine and how great Galician culture is and non-Galician Ukrainians are too polluted by Russian\Mongol CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:Why do you even need to join NATO if you're in the EU? You're already in a defensive pact, I genuinely don't get it It's the Cool Guys Club
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euphronius posted:I think we should say envelopment instead of encirclement as the latter is prone to many arguments Come on. Nobody would pick such an asinine point to derail a thread and argue over. There's such little gain in that it would be pointless for anyone to do this.
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Jan 31, 2023 16:01
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mlmp08 posted:Okay, I’ll post later when I’m not outside. but it will probably just point out that I think Russians can count and Ardennes didn’t provide any evidence that they lied to their people and/or accidentally recruit 50k extras. ill bet he lied about it to make sure you were still paying attention
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Jan 31, 2023 16:13
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DancingShade posted:This but the background is also clearly the beach of a tropical island. 
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Jan 31, 2023 16:18
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lollontee posted:the whole point of joining NATO together with sweden or not at all was the implicit strategic necessity of a land supply route through sweden in the event of a war with russia. this is so stupid i am actually beyond words to describe this. so we are simply planning on aggravating russia for lulz i guess. strategic pinecone thinking this is a reasonable objection if one assumes that the point of NATO membership was to defend finnish territory in the event of a general war. that is a fiction of the early phase where the powers that be wanted to assure everyone that there would be no consequences so the debate could settle. now the question is decided, so such justifications become retroactively unnecessary it's incredibly infuriating
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Jan 31, 2023 16:27
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it's still also annoying me that nobody seems to have picked up on the rather obvious idea that, if the first goal of a security arrangement is to avoid a serious war, then the NATO-based security arrangement for europe has failed spectacularly! doubling down doesn't seem like the obvious move under these circumstances!
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Jan 31, 2023 16:33
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Now that the security arrangement failed there's no other choice but to go to war.
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Jan 31, 2023 16:36
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obscene https://twitter.com/powerusaid/status/1620444806404263936 www  usaidgov news-information/press-releases/jan-30-2023-administrator-samantha-power-meeting-with-michael-froman-vice-chairman-and-president-of-strategic-growth-at-mastercardquote:
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Jan 31, 2023 16:37
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V. Illych L. posted:it's still also annoying me that nobody seems to have picked up on the rather obvious idea that, if the first goal of a security arrangement is to avoid a serious war, then the NATO-based security arrangement for europe has failed spectacularly! doubling down doesn't seem like the obvious move under these circumstances! Maybe NATO in the end was simply a project to utilize the resources and territory of Europe as the US saw fit regardless of their own security?
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Jan 31, 2023 16:37
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its almost like nato is actually a system to facilitate the collection of tribute and provide a ready pool of auxiliaries for us imperial adventures 
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Jan 31, 2023 16:37
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nato was supposed to keep germany down 
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Jan 31, 2023 16:38
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Seems to be working perfectly then what's the problem.
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Jan 31, 2023 16:39
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Ukraine needs to do another offensive, the Russians are feeling themselves a bit too much. The past week it's all been internal slap fights. Prigozhin versus Girkin, what really happened at Slavyansk. What should the city streets be renamed to. Already done with fighting Ukraine and moved on to fighting each other again.
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Jan 31, 2023 16:46
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Thats what the tanks are for (which wont be there in months if at all)
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Jan 31, 2023 17:02
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Lostconfused posted:Ukraine needs to do another offensive, the Russians are feeling themselves a bit too much. I doubt Grikin is going to get along with anyone at this point tbh.
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Jan 31, 2023 17:02
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Thats what the tanks are for (which wont be there in months if at all) i'm ~90% sure that ukrainian tank crews have been training in sponsor countries
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Jan 31, 2023 17:13
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-64338677quote:The family says that Tarimo, who had ambitions to be an MP with the opposition Chadema party, had been in Moscow as an ICT master's student at the Russian Technological University. But he was then imprisoned some time after January 2021 for what were described as drugs-related offences. 
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Jan 31, 2023 17:15
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two mlmp posts in a row is the worst thing I could possibly see in this thread, including snuff videos posted by psycho Ukrainiacs
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Jan 31, 2023 17:50
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:two mlmp posts in a row is the worst thing I could possibly see in this thread, including snuff videos posted by psycho Ukrainiacs Just wait til I gently caress up quote != edit a few times
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Jan 31, 2023 17:59
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:two mlmp posts in a row is the worst thing I could possibly see in this thread, including snuff videos posted by psycho Ukrainiacs If they sent him to Ukraine putin would surrender overnight
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Jan 31, 2023 18:55
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gradenko_2000 posted:not yet  the one facing norway
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Jan 31, 2023 21:17
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V. Illych L. posted:it's still also annoying me that nobody seems to have picked up on the rather obvious idea that, if the first goal of a security arrangement is to avoid a serious war, then the NATO-based security arrangement for europe has failed spectacularly! doubling down doesn't seem like the obvious move under these circumstances! Presumably the goal is simply to avoid war in ones own country. CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:Why do you even need to join NATO if you're in the EU? You're already in a defensive pact, I genuinely don't get it Who want's to rely on Poland for their security? mawarannahr posted:Finland + Türkiyeah enjoy Ugric kinship Finland should apply for observer status at the Organization of Turkic States like Hungary.
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Jan 31, 2023 21:21
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yeah the EU gave up on a EU army and the only countries that had armies worth anything anyway were the UK and France The UK left and has also let its military rot so it's just France now
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Jan 31, 2023 21:24
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mawarannahr posted:finlands folding the truly infuriating part of all this is that paludan has to get permission from police for these gatherings, they could easily just say "no not there its suspiciously similar to incitement to violence/provocation, do it somewhere else" as the places hes gone and done it has always been very near centers with "high" muslim residence but i mean thats the point, police wanted to crack some heads and they got what they wanted only good part about it was all the near-tears police who got spooked by having a rock land near them. edit; also the part where it might make us never be allowed to join nato is good as well i guess but who dares to hope at this point fanfic insert has issued a correction as of 21:30 on Jan 31, 2023 |
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Jan 31, 2023 21:24
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mawarannahr posted:lol quote:Anders Östlund - Ї "Temporarily abroad", fighting the good fight on twitter instead of the frontlines.
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Jan 31, 2023 21:30
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erdogan should demand that all of finland converts to islam
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Jan 31, 2023 21:46
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yellowcar posted:erdogan should demand that all of finland converts to islam It's essential for the upcoming Finno-Korean Hyperwar, OP.
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Finns: is this real? https://twitter.com/falconed62/status/1600703373207998466
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Jan 31, 2023 21:59
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fanfic insert posted:only good part about it was all the near-tears police who got spooked by having a rock land near them. edit; also the part where it might make us never be allowed to join nato is good as well i guess but who dares to hope at this point if that lard-brained nazi pedo keeps us out of nato for realsies i’m nominating him for an honorary nobel peace prize also it’s been extremely amusing to watch the same people who’ve been going on for years about how pissing of muslims is an inalienable, god-given human right flail helplessly when they realize it might backfire to the extent that their life-long dream of being subjugated by american empire might never happen
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Jan 31, 2023 22:02
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V. Illych L. posted:i'm ~90% sure that ukrainian tank crews have been training in sponsor countries Gonna be great for the people that get to crew the 20 tanks in the coming months. No so much forbthe 20 rifle battalions with two magazines and a dream
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Jan 31, 2023 22:03
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Weka posted:Who want's to rely on Poland for their security? You get the whole gang together if you're invaded + nukes due to France. I genuinely don't know what I'm missing here
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Jan 31, 2023 22:04
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I wonder how many days a modern MBT can function without a logistics train and a green crew.
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Jan 31, 2023 22:23
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CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:You get the whole gang together if you're invaded + nukes due to France. I genuinely don't know what I'm missing here the french have a nationally oriented nuclear doctrine. they'll only break out their nukes in an extreme case where the sovereignty of france itself is threatened. but yeah, the only thing that NATO offers which the EU doesn't in terms of military stuff is america and its wannabes. the entire discourse around this stuff is excessively stupid.
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Jan 31, 2023 22:24
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DancingShade posted:I wonder how many days a modern MBT can function without a logistics train and a green crew. A high mileage, high hours, only just holding together mbt being driven across a particularly grim corner of eastern europe
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Jan 31, 2023 22:26
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Starsfan posted:It's quite interesting to debate over whether this is true or whether the Minsk treaties were signed in good faith but now various politicians who were involved in the signing in 2014 (which have now become very unpopular in Ukraine and elsewhere) are trying to retroactively justify how they were actually brilliant strategists who foresaw this war from almost a decade back and thanks to them Ukraine has a fighting chance. the west has spent decades and decades pretending to be pro peace but continuously have started or coaxed on wars and violence. nothing about the public statements made when signing vs today seems unusual. and just because they spent 8 years building up a country doesn’t mean they’ll become an unstoppable machine capable of defeating the entire world. it was one of the poorest countries on earth who just had its entire navy move to Russia. America has a defense budget > 5x ukraines entire economy and their propped up government in Afghanistan fell 20 minutes after they spent 20 years putting them in power
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Jan 31, 2023 22:26
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NATO offers one large thing: an excuse to degrade and neglect one's own national military because you think everyone else will pick up the slack. You can then happily grift away with the savings.
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Jan 31, 2023 22:26
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DancingShade posted:NATO offers one large thing: an excuse to degrade and neglect one's own national military because you think everyone else will pick up the slack. You can then happily grift away with the savings. right, this is also true. finland having a large army is an unnecessary burden. keeping a hundred thousand reservists under arms and mobilisable consumes resources which can and should go to ex-officer consultants and buying f-35 aircraft
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Jan 31, 2023 22:29
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Vomik posted:the west has spent decades and decades pretending to be pro peace but continuously have started or coaxed on wars and violence. nothing about the public statements made when signing vs today seems unusual. they don’t even support the remnants of their propped up government, who are now pleading for healthcare and money from wealthier nations as India https://twitter.com/rferl/status/1620397232775380992 quote:. . . personally I’d take that as a warning if I read it on Radio Free Europe (weirdly this story is not in radio free Asia)
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Jan 31, 2023 22:33
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mawarannahr posted:they don’t even support the remnants of their propped up government, who are now pleading for healthcare and money from wealthier nations as India does Afghanistan even have an official “government in exile”?? what situation are these people expecting to change? drat that’s hosed
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V. Illych L. posted:right, this is also true. finland having a large army is an unnecessary burden. keeping a hundred thousand reservists under arms and mobilisable consumes resources which can and should go to ex-officer consultants and buying f-35 aircraft Australia's military is designed entirely to be the token ally who happily deploys a tiny force along the USA like a well trained puppy so they can claim a coalition of the willing or alliance of the free. Might only be a hundred deployed or a token asset or two but it's the optics. So everything need to be interoperable and supportable in field by USA logistics (god knows we can't do it). Also it has no endurance because it only needs to last long enough to ring the boss and cry out for help. Realistically speaking it doesn't expect to be in a fight that lasts more than a week tops and frankly you would probably run out of things to shoot at on day 2. Enjoy this vision of the future, everyone can share it.
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