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Have any of you played Warmaster at conventions like Adepticon? If so, how many points are the armies and for how many players? I'm trying to build a con game that will last 4 to 6 hours max and am not sure how many points it should be to achieve that. Assume some if not all of the players will have to be taught the system as its played.
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Jan 31, 2023 14:59
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nesbit37 posted:Have any of you played Warmaster at conventions like Adepticon? If so, how many points are the armies and for how many players? I'm trying to build a con game that will last 4 to 6 hours max and am not sure how many points it should be to achieve that. Assume some if not all of the players will have to be taught the system as its played. Its really hard to say. I would keep the army sizes at 1k for new players and avoid units with complex rules. I don't think you could go wrong with four 1000 point armies in a 2v2 match. There are rules out there for more than 2 sides, so you could get extra spicy and do a 2v2v2 at 500 points for each army if you have the space and patience for more newbies. This sounds like a blast to me
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Jan 31, 2023 16:02
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OK thanks, that is helpful. The scenario I have in mind will definitely be one side vs the other, but each side has other factions, so it will be at least 4 armies and it could be 6. I just want to make sure the game is fun for new players and isn't so long that it can't get at least close to a resolution in the allotted time slot.
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Jan 31, 2023 16:06
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If you want 6 players, maybe 750 points per army and 3v3. Some armies start to fall apart at less than 1k, so I would stick to the more iconic factions. You might "gold plate" the units a bit, or take an extra hero more than needed, to keep the unit counts smaller
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Jan 31, 2023 16:09
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nesbit37 posted:Have any of you played Warmaster at conventions like Adepticon? If so, how many points are the armies and for how many players? I'm trying to build a con game that will last 4 to 6 hours max and am not sure how many points it should be to achieve that. Assume some if not all of the players will have to be taught the system as its played. I have, and we did the full 2000 point armies, and had eight people the few times we did it. We did three games in 6 (or 8?) hours. I don't know if the guy who used to run it is still doing so, but he used to get his event in a bit late. Also, looks like someone is already doing two events on Friday? I would probably use a 1500 point army list per side, breaking each into 500 point force, each having a hero or wizard. Have a General at the head of each army that can be used by the event runner to activate a player unit in case they flub a command roll out of the gate. It's not a legal list, but it should allow everyone to experience magic and leadership, and push a few units around. Also, a full 6-8 hours is a looong time for a new player. For learning games and demos, things need to move fast so people don't lose interest. Doing two three hour events seems like a better time for folks who might not want to commit to a full day of learning one game (they can always come back for the second one if they really dig it.) berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jan 31, 2023 |
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Jan 31, 2023 19:30
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My Spirit Otter posted:Just so you know, all of the kill team rules are on [REDACTED] nope, we don't do this here - per forum rules, don't provide links to sites giving away copyrighted content, thanks e. This is what I think it is, right? A website posting GW's stuff? Apologies if I've got it wrong here, but we'd like to avoid making mods have to try to figure this out, hence the blanket ban. I'm not a lawyer. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 31, 2023 |
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Jan 31, 2023 19:40
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berzerkmonkey posted:I have, and we did the full 2000 point armies, and had eight people the few times we did it. We did three games in 6 (or 8?) hours. I don't know if the guy who used to run it is still doing so, but he used to get his event in a bit late. Also, looks like someone is already doing two events on Friday? Soubds good, thanks.8 hours is definitely too long. I think ideally I'd like to keep it to a 4 hour game slot since I figure at least an hour of that is going to be eaten up by people getting the hang of the rules in the first 2 or 3 turns.
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Jan 31, 2023 19:51
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nesbit37 posted:Soubds good, thanks.8 hours is definitely too long. I think ideally I'd like to keep it to a 4 hour game slot since I figure at least an hour of that is going to be eaten up by people getting the hang of the rules in the first 2 or 3 turns. Yeah. The good news is that WM is actually pretty easy, and the only time it really starts to get a little confusing is when you get into weird angles and sweeping advances and stuff. I'd also recommend the WM Revolution rules, if you weren't already using them. Also, if you're not already there, the Specialist Arms forum is pretty good, and my buddy Dave, who wrote the WM Army Selector is one of the Admins and can definitely give some advice to you.
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Jan 31, 2023 20:20
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nesbit37 posted:Soubds good, thanks.8 hours is definitely too long. I think ideally I'd like to keep it to a 4 hour game slot since I figure at least an hour of that is going to be eaten up by people getting the hang of the rules in the first 2 or 3 turns. Maybe lean into that and have a small scenario that will resolve quickly to act as a tutorial before the main event. That way people will know what they're doing when they start deploying the big armies.
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Jan 31, 2023 20:28
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Leperflesh posted:nope, we don't do this here - per forum rules, don't provide links to sites giving away copyrighted content, thanks Its unfortunate because that site is also one of the only updated online source of GW's rules, (they don't offer their own afaik). Including errata that changes specific model's stats. So if people want a quick reference on the stuff they have legitimately purchased, instead of pawing through rulebook X of 7, and then checking a separate errata pdf, they go there.
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Jan 31, 2023 20:34
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Yeah but legal ramifications
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Jan 31, 2023 20:37
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I don’t know, while I appreciate the site, I’d be concerned about endorsing it with how sue happy GW is
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Jan 31, 2023 22:32
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Yeah the deal is that Jeffrey doesn't want to get letters from lawyers, and mods don't have the expertise to evaluate which sites are toeing some defensible line and which are crossing it. I can't tell at a glance whether that site is presenting copyrighted material or not, so I have to nix it.
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Jan 31, 2023 22:39
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I respect and appreciate that viewpoint but I'm sad that Lowtax took Leonard J. Crabs with him.
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Jan 31, 2023 23:31
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I painted a thing. 
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Feb 1, 2023 12:44
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There are links to STLs for Warmaster in the OP. Are there any decent merchants for minis for epic scale minis? I'm working on my Legio Mortis titans and want to have some little daemons/soldiers on the bases to sell the scale.
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Feb 1, 2023 19:59
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There are! It's kind of a grey area since GW often gets them 404'd on thingiverse or cults so people are understandably hesitant to post links and ruin a good thing. Moonjam's Galactic Crusaders have survived a lot of C&D purges. He's presumably been noticed and passed whatever tests GW uses. (The standard seems to be "uses no propriety GW names and is distributed as free fan art.") You'll want to increase the figures by 33% to go from 6mm to AT scale. (Which is effectively 8mm, quarter 40k scale, or 1/4th 32mm.)
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Feb 1, 2023 20:14
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chippocrates posted:There are links to STLs for Warmaster in the OP. Are there any decent merchants for minis for epic scale minis? I'm working on my Legio Mortis titans and want to have some little daemons/soldiers on the bases to sell the scale. Red Nebular on Patreon does a mix of 25mm/10mm/Epic in both fantasy and SF. He's got some great Ork vehicles.
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Feb 1, 2023 20:15
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chippocrates posted:There are links to STLs for Warmaster in the OP. Are there any decent merchants for minis for epic scale minis? I'm working on my Legio Mortis titans and want to have some little daemons/soldiers on the bases to sell the scale. wake does quite alot of epic related stuff, and also alot of 6mm star wars that would also work https://wakesemporium.gumroad.com/
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Feb 1, 2023 20:22
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As someone looking to get into Kill Team, where should I start? I've done enough research to know that there are a couple starter sets and several (many?) expansions, that rules are compiled online, and that my son and I are interested in legionaries and kommandos. If I can find a base starter set (Imperial Guard/Orks) and a box of the legionaries, is that a viable and cost-efficient way to go, or is there a better way? I believe I need a copy of the core rules and the team-specific rules are in the compendium, or the model box, or possibly somewhere else? Is there a decent absolute beginner's guide to getting started on kill team?
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Feb 2, 2023 23:25
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The krieg/kommando full rules are in the Octarius codex, and the legionaries rules are in Nephelim(?)
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Feb 3, 2023 00:49
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Cotton Candidasis posted:As someone looking to get into Kill Team, where should I start? I've done enough research to know that there are a couple starter sets and several (many?) expansions, that rules are compiled online, and that my son and I are interested in legionaries and kommandos. If I can find a base starter set (Imperial Guard/Orks) and a box of the legionaries, is that a viable and cost-efficient way to go, or is there a better way? https://www.goonhammer.com/killteam/ Is where I started, I still have only bought one Kill Team. Next I'd like to buy a box set and then have two teams and their rules so I can play against myself and learn a little before I try playing at the game store
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Feb 3, 2023 02:47
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The starter set with orks and Kriegers has a mini core rule book in it. So getting that box plus the legionnaires box would be good for your teams. The faction rules are unofficially online and if you are just playing with your son probably all you need. If you do want the books ( which are pretty nice but overpriced) you will need the octarius ( orks and krieg) and the nachmund ( legionnaires and eldar corsairs).
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Cotton Candidasis posted:As someone looking to get into Kill Team, where should I start? I've done enough research to know that there are a couple starter sets and several (many?) expansions, that rules are compiled online, and that my son and I are interested in legionaries and kommandos. If I can find a base starter set (Imperial Guard/Orks) and a box of the legionaries, is that a viable and cost-efficient way to go, or is there a better way? Hello! your best most cost effective options for what you need is to buy the following:- Recruit edition Kill Team:- https://www.amazon.com/Games-Worksh...32-63e904010ad0 I STRONGLY suggest you purchase the octarius Terrain, not only is it fantastic there's a million missions and terrain Layouts that will really give you a lot of different games to play, however please search EBAY for this terrain first before buying new, I got my octarius Terrain for only 40 dollars which is half off the asking price:- https://www.amazon.com/Games-Worksh...c0-4513d670b6bc here are the legionares box:- https://www.amazon.com/Games-Worksh...c0-4513d670b6bc You honestly dont need to buy any additional stuff beyond that other than hobby stuff like the paints and stuff, all of the rules and mission layouts are available online with a google search, I cant post it here, overall everything I listed will cost around $220, you will get alot of game for you and your son at that price! if you want the critical ops cards (I personally recommend them) I would add 30$ on top of that price. hope this helps! let me know if you have any further questions. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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Feb 3, 2023 11:25
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Planning a Warpcoven KT, is 1 Sorcerer and 5 Rubrics viable at all or do you really need 3 Wizards?
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Feb 3, 2023 16:11
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I haven't actually played Warp Coven (building the Rubricae has been very slow going) but everything I've seen has at least two Sorcerers, depending on whether or not you have Tzangors. I don't own any, and don't intend to, so I'm doing three (Exalted) Sorcerers, Rubric Marine, Gunner, and Icon Bearer.
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Feb 3, 2023 16:27
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smug jeebus posted:Planning a Warpcoven KT, is 1 Sorcerer and 5 Rubrics viable at all or do you really need 3 Wizards? It's fine. The limited mobility of the rubricae can hurt you in some missions, though, so it's smart to have some tsaangors available in certain match-ups.
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Al-Saqr posted:Hello! This is very helpful, thank you! I'll poke around in the directions you suggested and likely pester the thread again in the future when I have more questions.
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Feb 3, 2023 23:18
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Two Rohirrim Outriders and dismounts completed. Just waiting for another two to get here to have a nice little squad of four. 
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Feb 4, 2023 05:23
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Is there anywhere online with the changes to the Kill Team mission set up and scouting phase that came with the Critical Ops cards that sold out immediately? The new Tac Ops are easy to get but the other stuff I can find kind of summarized but not the actual specifics.
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Feb 4, 2023 06:02
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Goonhammer's review lists all the setup steps, including changes https://www.goonhammer.com/the-goonhammer-review-kill-team-critical-operations-cards/
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Feb 4, 2023 10:34
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It's super awesome that I get to play this game almost every week now.  I also finished up my Redshields this weekend. Feels good to have them done! 
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/05/sunday-preview-skirmish-games-reign-supreme/ Oh my god oh my god thank you so much GW, i am so loving happy they are finally releasing the narrative sprues on their own, oh my god that puts my mind so much at ease about missing out on expansions, like this i can buy Soulshackle and be confident ill be able to buy the extra fancy bits for the final expansion Gallowfall as individual sprues without such a big investment, now i can finally expand my gallowdark for my new kill team friends to fit four players! I already purchased proxies for shadowvault extra sprues but i will absolutely wait for gallowfall extra sprues. I am absolutely going to pick up the Necrons down the line as well! Good times for kill team!
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more gallowdark terrain completed! I cant believe I'm saying this, but I'm 75% finished with Gallowdark Terrain! I'm only a few big wall pieces away from being totally done! and just in time for Soulshackle! now I can focus on finishing the units!   
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Feb 5, 2023 20:44
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I can't remember, in Kill Team, can you bring something like 2 gunners with the same loadout? If you're allowed 2 gunners for the Kill Team obviously.
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Feb 6, 2023 12:17
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Electric Hobo posted:I can't remember, in Kill Team, can you bring something like 2 gunners with the same loadout? If you're allowed 2 gunners for the Kill Team obviously. Most of them explicitly say you can only pick each gun once even if they let you bring multiple gunner specialists. I think Kasrkin can bring 4 special weapons, 2 max of each though cause that's their whole gimmick in 40k along with teleporting in and blowing up a couple units with incredible firepower apparently.
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thebardyspoon posted:Most of them explicitly say you can only pick each gun once even if they let you bring multiple gunner specialists. I think Kasrkin can bring 4 special weapons, 2 max of each though cause that's their whole gimmick in 40k along with teleporting in and blowing up a couple units with incredible firepower apparently.
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Feb 6, 2023 14:20
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Arbites details load outs and sprues announced:- https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/07/adeptus-arbites-exaction-squads-are-bristling-with-correctional-gadgets/
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There's a joke in there somewhere about the cops needing a drat meltagun
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smug jeebus posted:There's a joke in there somewhere about the cops needing a drat meltagun Im more confused about their weapons geard towards evidence collection, even the dog collects evidence! I wonder what the missions will be like to need that.
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