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Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


Doom Rooster posted:

Does new card buying unlock at some point? I’m CL 227, rank 31 silver and don’t see any new cards to buy in the store.

Just the Jubilee bundle, pro bundle, variants, quick upgrades, credits and gold.

The token shop appears when you're somewhere north of 500 cl. You're given 3,000 tokens to start; Series 3 cards are 1,000, S4 are 4,000 and S5 are 6,000.

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The Sean
Apr 17, 2005

Am I handsome now?


Doom Rooster posted:

Does new card buying unlock at some point? I’m CL 227, rank 31 silver and don’t see any new cards to buy in the store.

Just the Jubilee bundle, pro bundle, variants, quick upgrades, credits and gold.

The token shop opens up at 500 CL.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Due to how Domino and America Chavez work, Yondu is more likely to hit these cards than others. If you would draw them before their turn, they will be on top of your deck where Yondu can get them.

Yondu increases the chance of enemy Thor drawing Mjolnir later. Similarly it makes your own Korg and Rock Slide more likely to replace a draw. It makes enemy Lockjaw slightly more predictable.

But on his own he is equally likely to remove a critical card as to cause your opponent to draw it on turn 6, and more likely to let them draw it a turn earlier than otherwise. In a hypothetical matchup where if your opponent draws, say, Magikk by turn 5 you automatically lose, Yondu is detrimental.

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.
oh lol I forgot about the token shop, it takes so long to save up for anything from it you can't really blame me.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

kaschei posted:

Due to how Domino and America Chavez work, Yondu is more likely to hit these cards than others. If you would draw them before their turn, they will be on top of your deck where Yondu can get them.

Yondu increases the chance of enemy Thor drawing Mjolnir later. Similarly it makes your own Korg and Rock Slide more likely to replace a draw. It makes enemy Lockjaw slightly more predictable.

But on his own he is equally likely to remove a critical card as to cause your opponent to draw it on turn 6, and more likely to let them draw it a turn earlier than otherwise. In a hypothetical matchup where if your opponent draws, say, Magikk by turn 5 you automatically lose, Yondu is detrimental.
Yondu hitting chavez is really bad too. Chavez is a weak rear end card I am very happy when she gets milled.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

DurosKlav posted:

Should I buy Ultron?

If you have Patriot he makes for a good deck. Especially with all the "can't play cards here" locations.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.
I am dropping Goose on the unrevealed third location every time with this featured location up

Crini
Sep 2, 2011

Skippy McPants posted:

Right, 9/12 sorry. Still, 100% losing a lane to deny one draw is a bad deal.

The last time I played Yondu on bar I then played falcon to get all of them back. Then played them next turn on the other locations to run my opponent out of cards in his deck.

It was fun for me.

Still lost though.

The Sean
Apr 17, 2005

Am I handsome now?


Now that I can change names once a month, I am now

Marvel Snap Bot
Or At Least I Used To Be


I saw one on Reddit that was:

Am I On The Toilet?
I Am On The Toilet


vvvv :lmao:

The Sean fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Feb 1, 2023

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

This is my best win over galactus ever

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

The Sean posted:

Now that I can change names once a month, I am now

Marvel Snap Bot
Or At Least I Used To Be


I saw one on Reddit that was:

Am I On The Toilet?
I Am On The Toilet


vvvv :lmao:

Thinking about using-
First Second Third
The Fourth


I'm hating Plunder Castle. My Surfer deck doesn't use 6's, so all someone has to do is Professor X a lane and send Nightcrawler or Vision over and I'm hosed.

New Leaf fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Feb 1, 2023

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Crini posted:

The last time I played Yondu on bar I then played falcon to get all of them back. Then played them next turn on the other locations to run my opponent out of cards in his deck.

It was fun for me.

Still lost though.

Last week I played Moon Knight on Bar Sinister since I hadn't drawn my Hela yet and I got giddy hoping for a glorious return of all those cards. The turn afterwards my opponent played Forge and then dropped Yondu on Bar Sinister. Hela and Ghost Rider had been both been lost. And I wouldn't even get to win Bar Sinister (my 12 versus their 16).

Many a Deadpool emote was spammed (by me) before I retreated.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Is it worth it trying to run a Discard deck if I don't have Gambit, Moon Knight, OR Dracula? It seems at least ONE of those is pretty key.

I've been trying, cause I keep losing to them, but it's the typical BS of drawing Hela, and not Apocalypse, so she goes away from Sif...or maybe I have both but you all know which one Sif is going to discard!

And then either NOT getting Ghost Rider to bring her back, or Ghost Rider' brings back someone else that got discarded earlier from Blade or Colleen.

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006

The Sean posted:

I'm at 91 now. I've only been playing since the full launch of the game; this is the highest I've achieved so far. I still feel like the 30s was the most difficult.

I hope I can hit infinite by the end of the day and return to goofy decks again.

What deck are you climbing with?

I went from 60 something to 84 with She Hulk Infinaut with very little issue. Then after the patch I've had a much harder time, despite facing the same decks as I was before. Weird.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

DrBouvenstein posted:

Is it worth it trying to run a Discard deck if I don't have Gambit, Moon Knight, OR Dracula? It seems at least ONE of those is pretty key.

I've been trying, cause I keep losing to them, but it's the typical BS of drawing Hela, and not Apocalypse, so she goes away from Sif...or maybe I have both but you all know which one Sif is going to discard!

And then either NOT getting Ghost Rider to bring her back, or Ghost Rider' brings back someone else that got discarded earlier from Blade or Colleen.

you have all the core cards for a good discard deck with apocalypse/ghost rider/hela; the problem is just that it's a very high roll sort of deck. dracula would help a lot (discarding apocalypse at end of game is v useful) but otherwise just get used to it

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Skippy McPants posted:

Right, 9/12 sorry. Still, 100% losing a lane to deny one draw is a bad deal.

This is only bad if you don't draw Killmonger. The play here should be T1-T3 (depending on which turn it reveals) Yondu on Bar. T4 Killmonger in another lane. T5 your 5 cost Power multiplier on Bar. T6 profit.

The advantage of this is you can lock down Bar before your opponent can Green Goblin or Hobgoblin it and you also get incredible deck thinning. PLUS you get a look at a quarter of their deck which should definitely give you great insight into what they might try to keep playing.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

buffalo all day posted:

This is my best win over galactus ever



How'd you pull that off, Juggernaut?

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


DrBouvenstein posted:

Is it worth it trying to run a Discard deck if I don't have Gambit, Moon Knight, OR Dracula? It seems at least ONE of those is pretty key.

I've been trying, cause I keep losing to them, but it's the typical BS of drawing Hela, and not Apocalypse, so she goes away from Sif...or maybe I have both but you all know which one Sif is going to discard!

And then either NOT getting Ghost Rider to bring her back, or Ghost Rider' brings back someone else that got discarded earlier from Blade or Colleen.

Invisible Woman makes discard a bit more reliable.

You could also do a Swarm deck. Ghost Rider+Sif with Infinaut+Apocalypse/Hulk/Magneto+Chavez on the top end, Colleen Wing+Swarm on the bottom end, Morbius and Collector/Angela in the middle with Blade, Sword Master and another good 1 drop like Nightcrawler or Iron Fist to boost Angela. You're probably not hitting infinite with it, but it's extremely consistent and a lot of fun. It's one of the decks I play when I need to stop taking the game seriously.

The Sean
Apr 17, 2005

Am I handsome now?


canyonero posted:

What deck are you climbing with?

I went from 60 something to 84 with She Hulk Infinaut with very little issue. Then after the patch I've had a much harder time, despite facing the same decks as I was before. Weird.

Scorpion, Okoye, Electro, Jubilee, Spiderwoman, Black Panther, Devil Dino, Zola, Odin, Giganto, She-Hulk, Infinaut.

Only last night did I switch out She-Hulk for Shuri. I was already trying to swap her out for something else as she wasn't really useful very often. Not bad, but not great. I have basically been playing the same thing for most of the climb since last Friday but I will admit Shuri is very good when used appropriately.

I heavily attribute my climb to Snap/Retreat Discipline. I very rarely lose 8 cubes, four sometimes, but mostly 1 or 2 from a retreat. I've been playing (competitively) with basically the same deck for 2 months so I have a good feel for it.

edit: oh, Bar London (when you play a card here copy it to another location) is amazing for this deck. If you can, don't play anything else the whole game. T5 Black Panther, T6 Zola. Then watch the fun happen.

The Sean fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 1, 2023

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

DrBouvenstein posted:

Is it worth it trying to run a Discard deck if I don't have Gambit, Moon Knight, OR Dracula? It seems at least ONE of those is pretty key.

I've been trying, cause I keep losing to them, but it's the typical BS of drawing Hela, and not Apocalypse, so she goes away from Sif...or maybe I have both but you all know which one Sif is going to discard!

And then either NOT getting Ghost Rider to bring her back, or Ghost Rider' brings back someone else that got discarded earlier from Blade or Colleen.

I feel like Hela and Apocalypse cater to different kinds of Discard decks. With Apocalypse I want to make him a big boi and I love it when Dracula lends his power at the end. With Hela I cram already big bois in my deck (Infinaut, Giganto, Hulk, etc) and I hope to get rid of them so I can bring them back on turn 6. I lost a game this weekend to someone who ran BOTH of them and they got an amazing Hela on the final turn after 5 discards (with no Invisible Woman involved) and it infuriated me, because I knew how lucky they had to be to pull that one off.

I think neither is consistent enough to have decklists on which are refined and almost set in stone. We will see if the arrival of Modok in the next season pass will change that (although I currently don't see Hela + Modok together outside out of predictable and counterable Invisible Woman plays).

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

I'm still struggling to see the use for MODOK other than to like i guess for Morbin Time. You gotta absolutely HOPE to top deck Hela if you drop him on 5. You can't really hide Hela behind IW because it's a last play thing unless you're rampin. I'd love to see what people come up with but he just seems like a weird effect.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

RevKrule posted:

I'm still struggling to see the use for MODOK other than to like i guess for Morbin Time. You gotta absolutely HOPE to top deck Hela if you drop him on 5. You can't really hide Hela behind IW because it's a last play thing unless you're rampin. I'd love to see what people come up with but he just seems like a weird effect.

Invis Woman, Electro, Nick Fury, Modok, Hela. Round it out with the rest of traditional Hela deck stuff like Sif, Death, etc.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

RevKrule posted:

I'm still struggling to see the use for MODOK other than to like i guess for Morbin Time. You gotta absolutely HOPE to top deck Hela if you drop him on 5. You can't really hide Hela behind IW because it's a last play thing unless you're rampin. I'd love to see what people come up with but he just seems like a weird effect.

I suppose Strong Guy will love MODOK. He's a guarantied activation for Apocalypse and Swarm too.

And you could Invisible Woman MODOK and Hela to make them work together.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Bottom Liner posted:

Invis Woman, Electro, Nick Fury, Modok, Hela.
I see him as better for apoc than Hela. You can discard swarm and apoc turn 5 guaranteed, just a better Hell Cow in the situations you'd want to play Hell Cow.

Swarm
Apocalypse
Morbius
Chavez
MODOK
Dracula

is the basis of the deck, you'd want some other discards etc in there and a few other early plays.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 1, 2023

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Yeah but Apoc already has no trouble dumping hand. It's really just a win more card for both decks. Pairing with Nick is the only real power combo I see.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002
Seems like pretty good bundles this month, especially Deadpool, who I don’t currently have anyway.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


RevKrule posted:

I'm still struggling to see the use for MODOK other than to like i guess for Morbin Time. You gotta absolutely HOPE to top deck Hela if you drop him on 5. You can't really hide Hela behind IW because it's a last play thing unless you're rampin. I'd love to see what people come up with but he just seems like a weird effect.

Invisible Woman, Wave, Hela?

Alternately: Morbius, Apocalypse, Helicarrier, Swarm, Dracula. Play Morb and Drac, discard everything, play Swarms + Helicarrier drops, Drac discards Apocalypse.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


They really really need to come up with better locations than this poo poo. I’ve been galactus’ed at Plunder Castle like 6 times this morning. This sucks. :(

e mother loving 8 times, time to put the phone down

Sandwolf fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Feb 1, 2023

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
Kinda excited for modok because it's not clear where he goes. Surfer and zabu were dead obvious to build around.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Sandwolf posted:

They really really need to come up with better locations than this poo poo. I’ve been galactus’ed at Plunder Castle like 6 times this morning. This sucks. :(

e mother loving 8 times, time to put the phone down

If I see ramp after Plunder Castle at this point, I'm out. gently caress that. Had it happen to me once and that's a lesson learned. I don't really run 6 cost card decks so yeah, the location sucks.

Again, I'm really tired of like all the new locations being destroy or "can't play here" locations. It really ruins any flow you get going. I slid a shitload this morning just trying to get my dailies.

Has anyone tried battle mode yet? Can you use it for dailies? I'd much rather just run some bullshit decks in battle mode for those than lose a shitload of ladder games.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

battle mode is just for funsies, it doesn't affect your dailies or main rank or cubes

wodin
Jul 12, 2001

What do you do with a drunken Viking?

MODOK slots into the Lockjaw discard variant as an alternate route to success when you don't have the cleanest of starts - right now the deck really wants to go 2/3/4 Morb/Lockjaw/Dracula which really leaves you very faceup on the table, and things like Iceman can completely hose you as a result. MODOK lets you salvage some of those bad starts - if you can get Morb/Dracula down before T6, you can guarantee both of them will be reliable on the final turn. It also adds some marginal value to your Lockjaw lane because it's another high-power thing thing that you can casino into when you toss the two discard cards in there T5.

Plus I think some folks are absolutely going to find ways to make Hela more reliable with him, which is always neat. Invisible Woman is pretty unplayable with all the zabu running around right now since they're all packing Enchantress, but if the tweaks reduce Zabu's market share hiding a MODOK on 5 might be less of a risk.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

RevKrule posted:


Again, I'm really tired of like all the new locations being destroy or "can't play here" locations. It really ruins any flow you get going. I slid a shitload this morning just trying to get my dailies.


Yeah this annoys me, it feels like the development team is running into a real lack of imagination or ability in terms of implementing interesting effects. So many things boil down to "you just can't play some cards (for one reason or another)".

Mushrooman
Apr 16, 2003

Disco Dancin'
https://discord.com/invite/x8nVh8BjHB

There’s a community discord server that’s starting to organize battle mode tournaments if anyone is interested. They’re doing testing this week for different formats.

Edit: I’m not affiliated I just like esports.

Mushrooman fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 1, 2023

The Sean
Apr 17, 2005

Am I handsome now?


Goon tournament soon?

Crummelhorn
Nov 3, 2010
Hit Infinite again. Assuredly could not have done it without Zabu or Shuri. It's astonishing to me how quickly Second Dinner has hosed up the power curve. 2 months ago I won consistently with a deck intended to play Destroyer on 6, 15 points with a heavy downside. This month I had to give up on Sera Surfer, a deck that drops anywhere from 20-30 points on a good turn 6, because of how lacking it is in competition with stuff like Zabu Darkhawk or Shuri Zero.

Biggest problems for me are Zabu (which thank God will be nerfed soon) and the matchmaking. It's so dispiriting to be in the 70s and matching with people that already have the seasonal Infinite title, not to mention the fact that your rank decreasing at the end of a season while your MMR stays the same means gaining ranks will get harder and harder the longer you play - unless you know that and exploit it by throwing games once you're at 100 and can't lose any more cubes.

Crummelhorn fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Feb 1, 2023

Geekslinger
Jan 30, 2005

I've seen a few clever combos already but this one from Reddit made me chuckle pretty good.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

The Sean posted:

Goon tournament soon?

:letsgo:

My Second Re-Reg
Aug 31, 2021

Come on down.
Let's make a deal.

Tender Bender posted:

Yeah this annoys me, it feels like the development team is running into a real lack of imagination or ability in terms of implementing interesting effects. So many things boil down to "you just can't play some cards (for one reason or another)".

For the record I agree - Let's brainstorm some new location ideas:

* Every card played here gives +1 power to the cards in both players hands
* When you play a card here, it is swapped with another card on your field
* Cards may only be played here on even/odd turn numbers
* Every time a card is played here, reduce the power of all other cards on the field by -1
* Cards played at this location are played on your opponent's field instead
* Any card played here transforms into a random card of the same energy cost
* Hell, perma-Lockjaw; Any card played here is replaced with a random card from your deck
* Each turn, a card at this location may be returned to your hand (since they can obviously do this with the Kitty Pride card incoming)

I'm sure plenty of those are terrible for some reason or another but for 5m brainstorming I feel like it's as much effort as the devs have put in lately where locations are concerned.

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team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Was having no luck trying to be clever and get a plunder castle deck to work and dropped four ranks trying. Went back to my default gently caress the meta Galactus deck and am slowly clawing it back.

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