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In other news I did a huge revamp of our Gitlab CI pipeline templates for deploying poo poo to kube and it’s beautiful. About a thousand fewer lines of code, going from 14 templates to 2, support for multi cloud, arbitrary #s of clusters (and by extension arbitrary #s of environments), passing in arbitrary arguments, arbitrary flow control, multiple helmfiles… Opinionated design is nice and all but not when you sacrifice too much to achieve it! A little bit of flexibility deferred to the user goes a long long way.
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The Iron Rose posted:About a thousand fewer lines of code, going from 14 templates to 2, I worked with that guy gently caress that guy (mr. 14 templates is better than 2)
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Vulture Culture posted:After having an experience in a bigco where getting one SaaS app to have the right Okta configuration took five teams two months, I completely understand why any business supporting SAML/OIDC does not want to open their support teams to tickets about it until the customer has proven they're really invested Most everything does OIDC now thankfully. I can't imagine having to build support for the eldritch horrors that SAML contains
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luminalflux posted:Most everything does OIDC now thankfully. I can't imagine having to build support for the eldritch horrors that SAML contains *Laughs in higher Ed/Shibboleth*
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FISHMANPET posted:*Laughs in higher Ed/Shibboleth* Look, after IFS went nowhere, Umich really needed something that would fetch some mind share. Let them have something.
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This isn’t strictly DevOps but close enough that I figure folks here might have an idea on the matter. I grabbed one of these new M2 MacBooks with the intent, among other things, to use some of the extra beef to spin up some VMs in order to dink around with K8s finally. Lo and behold it seems that Virtualbox support on the processor is spotty right now and anything I emulate via any means will also be ARM based. That isn’t awful but most of the reason I didn’t already do this on a few RasPis was that ARM support of containers and most K8s guides/walkthroughs don’t usually line up. What’s the play here? Wait for Virtualbox to get in a usable state? Pay for a Parallels sub (have standard, have to have Pro for Vagrant comparability)? Try and convince the wife to let me spend some $$$ on a Proxmox instance with more than 16GB of RAM?
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Feb 5, 2023 21:38
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Warbird posted:This isn’t strictly DevOps but close enough that I figure folks here might have an idea on the matter. Utm
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Warbird posted:This isn’t strictly DevOps but close enough that I figure folks here might have an idea on the matter. https://github.com/lima-vm/lima
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Feb 5, 2023 23:59
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Warbird posted:This isn’t strictly DevOps but close enough that I figure folks here might have an idea on the matter. What does "dink around with k8s finally" mean to you? What are you looking to accomplish? If it's just "learn to deploy things onto kubernetes", minikube/k3d/kind works pretty good for spinning up a cluster on your laptop and you can cover 90-99% of use cases with this. I use it for most of my dev work on my M1 MBP. It notably falls apart for some development workflows, like ArgoCD local dev which expects the k8s pods to not be in a VM (which they are in Docker on Mac, so I use either an EC2 instance with Minikube or my Ubuntu workstation for this) If you mean "manually deploy a kubernetes control plane and manage nodes" for production use, you might want to re-examine your life and just use a managed controlplane like EKS/GKE/AKS.
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Probably less than 5% of k8s use cases justify rolling your own poo poo. I don't think I've ever even interviewed somebody that's managed their own control plane or rolled their own, or even really knew what was involved in it. Not in the past 4 years, anyway.
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Methanar posted:Probably less than 5% of k8s use cases justify rolling your own poo poo. Hi e: I also write my operators in python jaegerx fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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Feb 6, 2023 01:37
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jaegerx posted:Hi Dang, you're not even using it as an excuse for some resume driven go development?
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Methanar posted:Dang, you're not even using it as an excuse for some resume driven go development? Why would I not use python?
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jaegerx posted:Why would I not use python? If you need to use informers for resources, since that's not in client-python (i tried to implement what I'm building in python and it's just not doable in kopf or client-python, so Go it is  )
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Feb 6, 2023 02:01
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Some nerd at work wanted to manage the control plane, led to way too much work for no benefit, now we just use EKS and it's way better.
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Wish AWS would hurry up and add support for setting feature gates tho
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We ran our own control plane with kops in 2018 or something when EKS didn’t exist yet. It sucked rear end and I am glad everyone has managed k8s now. Also everyone on my team has gotten a bug up their butt to write everything in TypeScript for some reason. I’m too old for this poo poo, let me write python as god intended 
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Methanar posted:Probably less than 5% of k8s use cases justify rolling your own poo poo. Our clients? Act reasonably and utilize mature solutions for their own benefit instead of doing just the dumbest loving thing possible for some slight perceived benefit? How long have you worked in this field? But yeah, minikube or the like is likely the call here as I really just want to poke around and figure this all out; deploy some services and so on. Maaaaaaaaaybe migrate my containerized services over to a cluster once I understand it all, but likely not as there are better ways to skin that cat without going full rear end K8s.
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Warbird posted:Our clients? Act reasonably and utilize mature solutions for their own benefit instead of doing just the dumbest loving thing possible for some slight perceived benefit? How long have you worked in this field? I have told you in 2 threads, that UTM will emulate x86 for free on Mac arm.
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And I appreciate that, thank you.
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Warbird posted:But yeah, minikube or the like is likely the call here as I really just want to poke around and figure this all out; deploy some services and so on. Maaaaaaaaaybe migrate my containerized services over to a cluster once I understand it all, but likely not as there are better ways to skin that cat without going full rear end K8s. yeah just go for minikube if you're trying to figure out how to deploy stuff on k8s. 95% of the stuff will just work on an M1 (because that's what a lot of everyone else uses for localdev)
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jaegerx posted:I have told you in 2 threads, that UTM will emulate x86 for free on Mac arm. Thanks for mentioning UTM. I haven't had a need for something like VirtualBox in a while but this looks REALLY nice so glad to have that in my back pocket whenever I do want it. Also it's not owned by loving Oracle so that's nice. luminalflux posted:yeah just go for minikube if you're trying to figure out how to deploy stuff on k8s. 95% of the stuff will just work on an M1 (because that's what a lot of everyone else uses for localdev) yeah +1 to this. I still hit the odd landmine on my M1 (in general, not just in the k8s world) but it's getting better all the time. I had to fix a bunch of our own internal tools because I got the first M1 Mac on my team and the emulated performance was horrific on some things. Where "fix" just means making sure the container is built for both architectures and any binaries inside it are also built for the correct arch, nothing crazy. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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I use kind when I need a local k8s for something. Never had a problem with it. It's a bit more real than minikube
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create and destroy test clusters on gke or DO's and use that m2 for what its made for: keeping open a thousand tabs
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Docjowles posted:We ran our own control plane with kops in 2018 or something when EKS didn’t exist yet. It sucked rear end and I am glad everyone has managed k8s now. Same Whatever managed k8s costs, it's a fraction of the cost of the engineering time to gently caress around and find out how k8s actually works Ran a kops production cluster from like 1.15 to 1.21 I spent way too much time doing administration, reading patch/release notes, weeding out unhealthy nodes etc It's probably worth $100 in AWS credits to spin up a kops cluster, one time, like sticking a needle in your eye, just so you know why people tell you not to do it so you'll stop wanting to do it K3S is an acceptable way to spin up a "cluster" on your laptop. There's also some variant that runs as...I forget one or five containers that has everything and just sits on top of docker daemon. I don't recommend doing that but it's available for the morbidly curious. Edit,: it's actually something besides minikube. Minikube is awful Hadlock fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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Our developers: "why the gently caress are you trying to force us to make changes through IaC with code reviews, this is an outrage, you guys are literally Hitler, this is a toxic culture of no trust blah blah blah" Also our developers: "  P1 ISSUE NETWORKING IS DOWN PAGE EVERYONE " Hmm cool looking at CloudTrail some contractor in India made a bunch of edits to your route tables directly in the AWS console at like 4AM local time, didn't tell anyone he was doing it or why, and logged off. Oh well too bad, no way to prevent this.At least it is Friday 
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I'm here to tell you that even with iac and sane pr policies, the same people will just get someone to rubber stamp their pr's and the outage will still happen
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While true, at least there is a record of what the hell was done, when, and by who. Without me clicking around the console or sifting through a billion cloud trail events.
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Any good resources for prepping for a "scripting exercise to parse logs" coding interview module I'm guessing it will be something along the lines of Sad regex stuff or some kind of masking Big O notation quizlet Json mapping and sorting ?
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Docjowles posted:While true, at least there is a record of what the hell was done, when, and by who. Without me clicking around the console or sifting through a billion cloud trail events. Rolling back changes via iac is also a zillion times easier and better than the console especially depending on some resource types
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Hadlock posted:Any good resources for prepping for a "scripting exercise to parse logs" coding interview module gently caress you
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uh, hello to you too, person i've never interacted with before but seems to mostly post one liners to cspam
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You know I misread your first post and thought you wanted to make a quiz for interview candidates but now I realize you're asking for help. Maybe that guy did too and got mad cause coding interviews are stupid
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Oh yeah originally I had a big care post about how I was prepping for an interview to add context and then I realized nobody cares so I cut that part out. I guess it was important after all
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are you a candidate? just grind leetcode OP are you the interviewer? design a problem that can't be solved by "just grind leetcode"
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Resdfru posted:You know I misread your first post and thought you wanted to make a quiz for interview candidates but now I realize you're asking for help. Maybe that guy did too and got mad cause coding interviews are stupid yea i read it wrong too, thought you wanted to build an interview module to test that list, sorry
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Hadlock posted:Any good resources for prepping for a "scripting exercise to parse logs" coding interview module Natural language processing
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Resdfru posted:Rolling back changes via iac is also a zillion times easier and better than the console especially depending on some resource types
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most of the cloudformation rollback footguns require you to pass a capability that is basically the AWS SDK version of signing the "i know that i might irreparably maim myself" waiver at the rock climbing gym
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