Elon Musk: He only experiences Dunning-Krugerrand

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learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

He�s going to make all the right wing talking heads promoted tweets so they think it�s �fixed� and they are still going to complain.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 11:29

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# ? May 30, 2024 09:03

Evilreaver: Feb 26, 2007; GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!; Dinosaur Gum

I doubt the thought process was any deeper than

-There are 100 billion* API calls per day
-I need money
-100 billion times anything= $$$
Therefore
-I should charge for API calls and get $$$ (that exact amount, unchanged from current)

*Or whatever the number really is

# ? Feb 2, 2023 11:31

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Evilreaver posted:

I doubt the thought process was any deeper than

-There are 100 billion* API calls per day
-I need money
-100 billion times anything= $$$
Therefore
-I should charge for API calls and get $$$ (that exact amount, unchanged from current)

*Or whatever the number really is

It's one of the last things on the list he can possibly charge for.

~~Membership~~ - Already have a tiered plan mostly working, not final. Most likely not to generate any big bucks.
~~Advertising~~ - Already lost a poo poo ton, cant' increase the current going rate otherwise will lose more.
~~Ranking~~ - Not going to be a big earner, no one gives a poo poo if their tweet is higher than others.
API Calls - Oim Elon and dey are stealing moi server electricity! Groimes won't even talk to moi now without a lawyer

# ? Feb 2, 2023 11:52

Paracausal: Sep 5, 2011; Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Remember in December when Elno said any major policy changes would be put to a vote

Lol

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:13

The Saddest Rhino: Apr 29, 2009; Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.

Imc has gone public as well so Elon is just following his lead

Very proud of a Malaysian who is able to take up one of the world's richest persons as his lap dog

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:13

DeeplyConcerned: Apr 29, 2008; I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

all right fans here's the next question: what is the most important issue facing this demon cracker nation today?
A. the envitonment
B. income inequality
C. algorithmic bias against Twitter user ratpee7728
D. The economy

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:16

ColdPie: Jun 9, 2006

It's a good thing he's reassuring advertisers by demonstrating that his platform doesn't share content correctly and its statistics are completely unreliable. That'll bring them back.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:24

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

ohhh

He thinks API calls are the same thing as image leaching in the early 2000s before unlimited everything became a thing. You would find if people put img tags round a picture hosted by you on a popular page then you'd run out of free very very quickly, and have to change the picture to goatsie to get people to gently caress off doing that.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:25

Alucard: Mar 11, 2002; Pillbug

Paracausal posted:

Remember in December when Elno said any major policy changes would be put to a vote

Lol

Still a vote, just not a call for votes

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:32

MrQwerty: Apr 15, 2003; LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL (づ￣ �￣)づ♥(�∀�●)

happyhippy posted:

API Calls - Oim Elon and dey are stealing moi server electricity! Groimes won't even talk to moi now without a lawyer

Lmao

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:34

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:35

morningdrew: Jul 18, 2003; It's toe-tapping-ly tragic!

First thing I thought of

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:48

Mx.: Dec 16, 2006; I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

:wheeze:

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:57

arsenicCatnip: Dec 23, 2022; :33< i KNOW, i was speaking metafurrikitty :33

morningdrew posted:

First thing I thought of

# ? Feb 2, 2023 12:57

The Saddest Rhino: Apr 29, 2009; Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

Lmao

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:08

morningdrew: Jul 18, 2003; It's toe-tapping-ly tragic!

arsenicCatnip posted:

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:10

ColdPie: Jun 9, 2006

I wonder what "account manager" means, since we know it won't be a paid employee.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:11

Mx.: Dec 16, 2006; I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!

pleas pay me for api calls, i need the money to pay the lawsuits i had for not paying rent in multiple countries -elomg

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:12

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Cable Guy posted:

There's talk of a cocktail recipe competition at a local bar so I've been working on a variation of the Flaming Lamborghini...

code:

Flaming Tesla

Ingredients:
1 shot (30ml) Amarula Cream
Dash of Raspberry cordial
2 shots (60ml) Everclear
1 Free range* egg yolk

Glass:
Re-usable condiment glass like a jam-jar, marmite 
or vegemite glass. 
The cheaper, the better

Method:
- Pour the shot of Amarula neatly into the glass.
- Drop the egg yolk in over a spoon so it stays whole.
- Gently add the dash of Raspberry cordial by using a 
spoon to drizzle over the egg yolk.
- Add the everclear over a spoon so it forms a layer over 
the egg yolk, cordial and Amarula

To serve:
- Light the everclear with a lit plastic straw.
- Add straw to glass and throw against the nearest wall. 
- Consume by licking from the floor.

* Egg should be Free-Range so there is a blood trace

Cable Guy posted:

Hmmm... might need more everclear....

Generally no kids at the bar... maybe I can get a mannequin.

I'd have thought the egg would count as totalling a kid in the process and calling it a success? :confused:

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:18

Mx.: Dec 16, 2006; I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:19

Noxville: Dec 7, 2003

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

Holy poo poo that�s insane. 25 cents a call at even the cheapest rate??

Guess nobody�s using Twitter�s API any more then.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:21

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

arsenicCatnip posted:

Are embeds API calls though? I thought they might have been direct URL's... or is that the same thing on twatter..?

Edit:

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I'd have thought the egg would count as totalling a kid in the process and calling it a success?

Interesting.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:21

arsenicCatnip: Dec 23, 2022; :33< i KNOW, i was speaking metafurrikitty :33

Cable Guy posted:

Are embeds API calls though? I thought they might have been direct URL's... or is that the same thing on twatter..?

This sort of stuff is way outside my coding wheelhouse (that being half-remembering a Python class several years ago), im just going off of this earlier post

Beartaco posted:

This is an example of an API that's owned by twitter. In this case it's an API that you send the link of a tweet to, and in response it'll send you the HTTP needed to embed a tweet onto your web page.

Jeffrey is going to have to pay money to save PYF.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:24

Steadiman: Jan 31, 2006; Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

_{silly sevens}

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

These prices really do seem based on Elon's napkin math where everyone pays $2500 per month and the site will make a profit in no time! And that's not even enterprise access yet.

You're doing great Elon!

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:25

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Cable Guy posted:

Are embeds API calls though? I thought they might have been direct URL's... or is that the same thing on twatter..?

Edit:

Interesting.

External API calls are literally URL's with variables in them. (Not counting JSON payloads as well of course)

A twitter embed url like;

code:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn79pTTaMAcTBT-?format=jpg&name=large

Is talking to Twitter's media API and asking for that image, in that format. In this case I'm telling their Media API I want the JPG version of image file Fn79pTTaMAcTBT, in the Large size. Large probably being a set template size somewhere in their Include file for a format dimension of X-By-Y pixels.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:28

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

arsenicCatnip posted:

This sort of stuff is way outside my coding wheelhouse (that being half-remembering a Python class several years ago), im just going off of this earlier post

Yeah I saw that, but I was wondering if the link you get by clicking on "Embed Twat" on a tweet might skip the API call and give you the URL directly.
:shrug:

edit:

Neddy Seagoon posted:

External API calls are literally URL's with variables in them. (Not counting JSON payloads as well of course)

A twitter embed url like;
code:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn79pTTaMAcTBT-?format=jpg&name=large
Is talking to Twitter's media API and asking for that image, in that format. In this case I'm telling their Media API I want the JPG version of image file Fn79pTTaMAcTBT, in the Large size. Large probably being a set template size somewhere in their Include file for a format dimension of X-By-Y pixels.

So I'm guessing then the API calls are more specialised than just the "Embed Twat" button result...?

Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Feb 2, 2023

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:28

pro starcraft loser: Jan 23, 2006; Stand back, this could get messy.

Giving people a WEEK to change is absolutely a way to get devs to pay for at least a month to jump ship. Prices will drop a ton after a month or two when:

A. The devs who needed extra time are finished
B. No one is buying it

What a stupid idea.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:40

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Steadiman posted:

These prices really do seem based on Elon's napkin math where everyone pays $2500 per month and the site will make a profit in no time! And that's not even enterprise access yet.

You're doing great Elon!

At 2500 a go you will need:

44 billion divided by 2500 =

Seventeen million six hundred thousand slightly lovely twitter accounts

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:41

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

pro starcraft loser posted:

Giving people a WEEK to change is absolutely a way to get devs to pay for at least a month to jump ship.

There is going to be a ton of very busy devs this week, and a ton of random twitter adjacent poo poo failing next (and also busy devs, probably getting yelled at a lot by management.).

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:45

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Cable Guy posted:

Yeah I saw that, but I was wondering if the link you get by clicking on "Embed Twat" on a tweet might skip the API call and give you the URL directly.

edit:

So I'm guessing then the API calls are more specialised than just the "Embed Twat" button result...?

Depends what you want to do with it.

Beartaco posted:

This is an example of an API that's owned by twitter. In this case it's an API that you send the link of a tweet to, and in response it'll send you the HTTP needed to embed a tweet onto your web page.

So what's happening here is you're poking the URL with a GET call. This is generally tells the endpoint "Hey, give me data"
(Other examples include POST to create an entry, or PUT to update an entry, with the payload you send it)

code:

https://publish.twitter.com/oembed

We don't need authentication here, so there's no payload to send to it saying "Hey, I have a valid session token, do stuff for me", it'll just talk back regardless.

What it sends back is a JSON payload like so;

code:

  "url": "https://twitter.com/TwitterDev",
  "title": "",
  "width": null,
  "height": null,
  "type": "rich",
  "cache_age": "3153600000",
  "provider_name": "Twitter",
  "provider_url": "https://twitter.com",
  "version": "1.0"

I had to omitted the actual HTML variable line from the API page because it made SA's Cloudflare protection angry, :lol:

. But basically you receive these variables, you play with them as you like in your app or webpage. And that's a very, very, simple example of how API's work.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:46

Bertha the Toaster: Jan 11, 2009

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

There's no way this is real, where is this from?

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:48

ColdPie: Jun 9, 2006

The real answer is no one knows what is & isn't covered by the new plan, including Twitter staff. We'll all find out together in the coming weeks!

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:50

Shazback: Jan 26, 2013

pro starcraft loser posted:

Giving people a WEEK to change is absolutely a way to get devs to pay for at least a month to jump ship. Prices will drop a ton after a month or two when:

A. The devs who needed extra time are finished
B. No one is buying it

What a stupid idea.

And it's a great way to build trust for developers in the future! Everyone loves it when the product you develop for months or years suddenly come with a massive price tag or break without warning!

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:57

kazil: Jul 24, 2005; Derpmph trial star reporter!

Stephen King save us please

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:58

ColdPie: Jun 9, 2006

The Switch lets you upload screenshots directly to Twitter, right? Do you think Nintendo will:

A) Pony up for an Enterprise Plan,

B) Remove the feature in a system update, or

C) Let the feature languish, broken, forever?

# ? Feb 2, 2023 13:59

Clouseau: Aug 3, 2003; My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.

If I understand correctly this would directly impact listening/platforms (e.g. Hootsuite) so ultimately this will probably chase off even more corporations from Twitter as they'll have their abilities to social listen dramatically reduced and the value of the users on there is dropping so there's less a reason to bother.

Great strategy to lose even more advertisers.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 14:00

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

ColdPie posted:

The Switch lets you upload screenshots directly to Twitter, right? Do you think Nintendo will:

A) Pony up for an Enterprise Plan,

B) Remove the feature in a system update, or

C) Let the feature languish, broken, forever?

Didn't Nintendo nuke Facebook integration a few years ago? Goodbye Twitter I guess.

No idea how to get my Goldeneye screenshots off there now!!!

# ? Feb 2, 2023 14:03

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo, these prices

even a small site ite would have more than 10,000 requests a month, wouldnt it?

Literally every API call is probably A Request. Let's be vaguely nice and assume only GET calls are a Request though.

You log in? Request.

You call for an update? (eg; Getting your twitter feed?) That's a request.

Load a specific user's profile? You better believe that's a request. Possibly their tweets as a separate call too if it's not an array Object containing them in the profile payload.

Loading an image? That's a request. (Napkin coding; You get the URL in the main timeline payload, send that back to get served the image)

So an average user in one session of twitter on the shitter for fifteen minutes? Probably racking up a couple dozen calls, minimum. And that's a single user with light use.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 14:05

Croccers: Jun 15, 2012

morningdrew posted:

# ? Feb 2, 2023 14:08

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# ? May 30, 2024 09:03

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

Ratjaculation posted:

Didn't Nintendo nuke Facebook integration a few years ago? Goodbye Twitter I guess.

No idea how to get my Goldeneye screenshots off there now!!!

Nintendo will just bring back Fax integration.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 14:09

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