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I liked the time that someone actually pinned someone to the floor by jacking up the gravity, which happened to be a Gorn
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Feb 1, 2023 04:40
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It's kinda funny that we saw automated cargo drone ships hauling things between systems a few times in TOS but never in later shows, you'd think fully automated cargo drone ships would have been even more common for the FALGSC future of the 24th century.
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Feb 1, 2023 05:15
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MikeJF posted:It's kinda funny that we saw automated cargo drone ships hauling things between systems a few times in TOS but never in later shows, you'd think fully automated cargo drone ships would have been even more common for the FALGSC future of the 24th century. The fully automated cargo drone ships gained sentience not long after TOS, won their rights to person hood in a Federation court case and have all been holidaying on Risa ever since.
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Feb 1, 2023 06:01
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ashpanash posted:Picard comparing the Crystalline entity to a 'blue whale' was a loving whopper of a false analogy, considering that a Blue Whale isn't (a far as we know, at any rate) gobbling down sapient creatures. Pretty sure he was meaning like a Moby Dick kind of situation. The Crystalline Entity didn't know what it was doing, even if it could think at all. Even seems evident it was all Lore's fault anyways.
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Feb 1, 2023 07:44
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SlothfulCobra posted:Pretty sure he was meaning like a Moby Dick kind of situation. The Crystalline Entity didn't know what it was doing, even if it could think at all. Even seems evident it was all Lore's fault anyways. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Silicon_Avatar_(episode) posted:"Doctor, the sperm whale on Earth devours millions of cuttlefish as it roams the oceans. It is not evil. It is feeding."
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Feb 1, 2023 07:55
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I am watching Lal trying out "what my gender and apparence" and it feels so *ancient* Well, between Troi saying that Lal can't be gender neutral and that their chosen gender presentation will be theirs for life and just... It's very good for the 90s. They're... trying. But as a non-binary person? I just feel unseen and sad. =/
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Feb 1, 2023 08:37
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SlothfulCobra posted:Pretty sure he was meaning like a Moby Dick kind of situation. The Crystalline Entity didn't know what it was doing, even if it could think at all. Even seems evident it was all Lore's fault anyways. It can understand and follow Lore's plan fine in Datalore, I think it just doesn't care about killing people
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Feb 1, 2023 09:59
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No Dignity posted:It can understand and follow Lore's plan fine in Datalore, I think it just doesn't care about killing people We have no idea what Lore had told it or what its understanding of the situation was in Datalore, though. The communications are vague enough it could've gone either way. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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Feb 1, 2023 10:04
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MikeJF posted:We have no idea what Lore had told it or what its understanding of the situation was in Datalore, though. I thought Lore told it how and when to attack the Enterprise after the shields are dropped and it followed his lead?
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Feb 1, 2023 10:09
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He did, but we have no idea if it even understood that the Enterprise was full of non-aggressive intelligent beings and not just a big juicy snack plate that Lore was giving it access to. Lore's a manipulator, after all.
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Feb 1, 2023 10:12
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MikeJF posted:He did, but we have no idea if it even understood that the Enterprise was full of non-aggressive intelligent beings and not just a big juicy snack plate that Lore was giving it access to. Lore's a manipulator, after all. If it's intelligent enough to understand some version of "attack when the shields are down" it's probably smart enough to grok that the starship is full of sentient beings. Still there was a moment where it looked like communication was getting established before that one lady shattered it because "It kilt mah famly!" Not that I really blame her and it's nice to get confirmation that 24th century humans really are still human even if they have mostly techno/social-engineered their way past scarcity-based economics. Everyone fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Feb 1, 2023 |
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Feb 1, 2023 12:08
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The real fault in that episode lies with Picard for letting Lady Vengeance be in charge of shooting a beam at the thing
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Feb 1, 2023 12:31
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The point is that they don't really know if it was sentient or not, or anything about it. It was a unique form of life, and they had their chance to try to figure it out, but now they'll never know*. *unless they track down the ones having an orgy in lower decks, which was funny but does kinda undermine the point of the episode. skasion posted:The real fault in that episode lies with Picard for letting Lady Vengeance be in charge of shooting a beam at the thing She was the scientist what brought them there! He thought she was going to do a science to it!
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Feb 1, 2023 17:00
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SlothfulCobra posted:She was the scientist what brought them there! He thought she was going to do a science to it! And boy, did she.
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Feb 1, 2023 17:17
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SlothfulCobra posted:She was the scientist what brought them there! He thought she was going to do a science to it! Never let a theorist get anywhere near your experiment. They will find some way to break it. It's one of those universal laws.
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Feb 1, 2023 17:24
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That was such a good episode, that ending always stuck with me. Her just desperately speaking to Data as her son, asking that he understands, and Data just going "I believe he would be very sad and disappointed" as she looks sadder and sadder. TNG at its peak man... great stuff.
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Feb 1, 2023 18:04
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Tom Guycot posted:That was such a good episode, that ending always stuck with me. Her just desperately speaking to Data as her son, asking that he understands, and Data just going "I believe he would be very sad and disappointed" as she looks sadder and sadder.
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Feb 1, 2023 18:12
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It’s a good episode. One of the only times Riker and Picard have a proper fight too.
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Feb 1, 2023 18:19
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Lemniscate Blue posted:And boy, did she. We're testing the effects of shooting this beam at the entity.
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Feb 1, 2023 19:10
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Sash! posted:We're testing the effects of shooting this beam at the entity. Again, Picard lusts for death; his own death, the deaths of others, his immediate family and friends, strange creatures he's just met. Anyone who comes on the Enterprise looking to cause some kind of mass casualty event, Picard is like "No, let him cook."
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Feb 1, 2023 21:42
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, Picard lusts for death; his own death, the deaths of others, his immediate family and friends, strange creatures he's just met. Anyone who comes on the Enterprise looking to cause some kind of mass casualty event, Picard is like "No, let him cook." Every year we'd all pile into the family starship and he'd drunkenly ram it into a space station at Warp 9. It was our little tradition.
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Feb 1, 2023 21:49
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, Picard lusts for death; his own death, the deaths of others, his immediate family and friends, strange creatures he's just met. Anyone who comes on the Enterprise looking to cause some kind of mass casualty event, Picard is like "No, let him cook." The fact that it can travel at warp itself doesn't matter, it needs to invent the engines.
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Feb 2, 2023 03:14
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Just rewatched Season 3 of Lower Decks today. I'm always shocked at how they fit so much into every episode without feeling rushed. It feels like an hour long episode even though they're only 30 minutes. And the season finale even moreso, that felt like a two parter, but still only 30 minutes.
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Feb 2, 2023 05:42
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FISHMANPET posted:Just rewatched Season 3 of Lower Decks today. I'm always shocked at how they fit so much into every episode without feeling rushed. It feels like an hour long episode even though they're only 30 minutes. And the season finale even moreso, that felt like a two parter, but still only 30 minutes. It is fascinating to see how each modern series budgets the time it has to accomplish its narrative objectives. Lower Decks feels like it accomplishes too much somehow with its 30 minutes, Prodigy manages to accomplish exactly what it needs to do in its 30 minutes, and Picard somehow struggles to fill its entire hour with anything at all at its worst.
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Feb 2, 2023 05:50
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The true art of animation is managing to cram as much as possible into a tiny little slice of time without it feeling too rushed. Most Lower Decks episodes have an A, B, and C plot going all at once. And that's opposed to some 40 hour long episodes of other shows that may not even have much of a B plot to offset whatever's going on in the A plot. Heck, I think most of the movies don't even really have much in the way of subplots. Which you could probably weave in some more coherent subplots without even bulking out the runtime just by doing more work to weave together things that are going on with minor characters into something coherent. Go back in time and give more lines to David Warner.
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Feb 2, 2023 06:41
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Here's an odd question: In "Offspring" when Lal died, what did Data do with the body? Did he just put the parts back in the bins they came from?
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Feb 2, 2023 13:41
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Mister Kingdom posted:Here's an odd question: In "Offspring" when Lal died, what did Data do with the body? Did he just put the parts back in the bins they came from? Starfleet scientists would of loved to of studied the body obviously, as you know unique new super advance robot. Data may of just given it them, as his logic would of probably of been, well shes gone now, so sure?
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Feb 2, 2023 13:51
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Mister Kingdom posted:Here's an odd question: In "Offspring" when Lal died, what did Data do with the body? Did he just put the parts back in the bins they came from? Shipped it to Bruce Maddox as an early birthday present.
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Feb 2, 2023 13:58
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Presumably there's a Lal shelf, somewhere.
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Feb 2, 2023 15:35
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Fully 99% of the cubic volume of ship interior is comprised of android storage.
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Feb 2, 2023 15:48
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*strides into the walk-in android closet* Ugh, all my Soongs are out of season. I wish they'd make several pairs of new ones.
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The Lilith to Lal's Eve Also looking forward to the Lower Decks opening of the android vault
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MikeJF posted:It's kinda funny that we saw automated cargo drone ships hauling things between systems a few times in TOS but never in later shows, you'd think fully automated cargo drone ships would have been even more common for the FALGSC future of the 24th century. My headcannon is all starfleet ships are fully automated; the bridge crew plays the equivalent of LCARs bejeweled to keep the Rogue Ship AI contingency from activating. Everyone else keeps the ship working.
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Feb 2, 2023 15:52
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Brawnfire posted:Fully 99% of the cubic volume of ship interior is comprised of android storage. "Did you see the sign out in front of my quarters that says 'dead android storage'?"
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Infidelicious posted:My headcannon is all starfleet ships are fully automated; the bridge crew plays the equivalent of LCARs bejeweled to keep the Rogue Ship AI contingency from activating. Everyone else keeps the ship working. Honestly I could see the bridge staff having a meeting like this, but just replace "contractors" with "ship ai/robots": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdtdfxV_fgc Like unless Starfleet is mostly a make work program the ships really should be mostly automated by the point in tech where their obviously at. Like Starfleet has technology that has such fine control of the physical world that they can make transporters, replicator, warp drives, artfical gravity what nots, and you see people carting around plastic bottles of things? Like obviously when TNG came out they couldn't of known what a automated amazon warehouse would look like -or had the effects budget to pull it off- but it is sort of funny.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:"Did you see the sign out in front of my quarters that says 'dead android storage'?" DON'T DEAD OPEN ANDROID
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dr_rat posted:Like unless Starfleet is mostly a make work program the ships really should be mostly automated by the point in tech where their obviously at. Like Starfleet has technology that has such fine control of the physical world that they can make transporters, replicator, warp drives, artfical gravity what nots, and you see people carting around plastic bottles of things? Like obviously when TNG came out they couldn't of known what a automated amazon warehouse would look like -or had the effects budget to pull it off- but it is sort of funny. If I recall correctly at the start of TNG there actually was an idea that the operational crew of the ship was relatively tiny, and in a pinch the skeleton crew would only be a dozen people or so for ongoing operation with most of it fully automated, and most of the people aboard were mission crew or specialists. But that's one of the things that faded away quickly as they moved into ongoing writing and preferred depicting crew with lots of duties and stuff.
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dr_rat posted:Honestly I could see the bridge staff having a meeting like this, but just replace "contractors" with "ship ai/robots": Star Trek has never been about trying to realistically depict interstellar travel. This is pretty explicitly acknowledged in The Ultimate Computer where a fully automated Enterprise is stated to be outperforming what a fully trained crew could get out of her, and yet even Spock himself says "a starship runs on loyalty" Star Trek is a space opera, which means it uses visual metaphors for terrestrial things (e.g. the aforementioned crews running around, ships banking as they turn in space, etc) to create both a more relatable and viscerally dramatic experience for the audience.
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CPColin posted:DON'T DEAD How much problem can a dead android be?
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