Xbox: This is the Jan 6th of gaming.

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The Kins: Oct 2, 2004

univbee posted:

The 360 era was extremely weird for updates:

- There was a bit of a mandate for a long time that all 360 games had to be fully playable off disc without any local storage other than for save files, with update sizes being capped at 64 megabytes. Some "bigger" online games circumvented some of these requirements by having "compatibility pack" free DLC that includes more significant changes and content updates, but required real storage which was extremely expensive for what you were getting especially since the hard drive modules were proprietary. You could eventually use USB sticks and external hard drives but this came very late and was still not supported for all games; a few still required the official Microsoft internal storage. While I think Microsoft sold 360s that only had 64 or 256 megabytes of flash storage basically until the Xbox One launched, even at launch it was universally considered critical to avoid these SKUs and only buy the ones that had full hard drives in them, because doing that directly was far cheaper than doing the upgrade later down the line.
- Microsoft had a policy wherein developers could push one free update post-launch, and every update beyond that had a flat administrative fee of I think $30,000usd. Chump change for Call of Duty and similar AAA-tier games, but a ton of indies had issues with known trivial fixes that just never got fixed due to this policy.

So the Orange Box bundle on PS3 and 360 are interesting time capsules, along with a few other games, specifically because they didn't get the updates that completely reinvented TF2 like what happened on PC.

The 360 version of TF2 also had the unique issue that it only barely fit in the Xbox 360's 512mb of RAM with the vanilla content, and even then only once they lowered the maximum player count.

The PS3 version... was outsourced to EA UK, who I think got moved onto the Harry Potter games or something after like one patch.

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# ? May 25, 2024 09:43

Beastie: Nov 3, 2006; They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.

Out of that whole 360 list the only that caused me fo-mo was Jet Set so I grabbed that. I either owned or didnt care for the others

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:31

Seltzer: Oct 11, 2012; Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!

Alright so If I want to buy skate 2 before it's delisted how do I do that? I can't online I need to access a 360?

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:35

welcome: Jun 28, 2002; rail slut

You should be able to buy it via a web browser, just make sure you're on the marketplace.xbox.com site.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:36

American McGay: Feb 28, 2010; by sebmojo

There might be some specific browser combination that works but it always hangs on the purchase screen for me.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:39

Beastie: Nov 3, 2006; They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.

Seltzer posted:

Alright so If I want to buy skate 2 before it's delisted how do I do that? I can't online I need to access a 360?

I just clicked the linked post itt

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:44

Quantum of Phallus: Dec 27, 2010

American McGay posted:

There might be some specific browser combination that works but it always hangs on the purchase screen for me.

Skill issue

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:48

Beastie: Nov 3, 2006; They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Skill issue

Meh it took me two tries. First time it showed me card, I clocked purchase and it hung on a page before saying No Payment Method Selected.

Tried it again and bingo bongo bango worked

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:52

Ryoga: Sep 10, 2003; Eternally Lost

The Kins posted:

The 360 version of TF2 also had the unique issue that it only barely fit in the Xbox 360's 512mb of RAM with the vanilla content, and even then only once they lowered the maximum player count.

The PS3 version... was outsourced to EA UK, who I think got moved onto the Harry Potter games or something after like one patch.

that era was pretty wild. I vaguely remember something about EA doing a copyright claim on an orange box video on youtube that was on Valve's own channel. Many lols were had.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:54

The Illusive Man: Mar 27, 2008; ~savior of yoomanity~

Seltzer posted:

Alright so If I want to buy skate 2 before it's delisted how do I do that? I can't online I need to access a 360?

The Kins posted:

Skate 2 (Also playable with disc)

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:56

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

purchasing things on the "old" playstation store after they fully switched to the new one requires a god dang NASA degree!!!

# ? Feb 2, 2023 18:58

Crafty: Dec 9, 2003; I CAN'T SEE SHIT.

xbox one is the best

Feels Villeneuve posted:

purchasing things on the "old" playstation store after they fully switched to the new one requires a god dang NASA degree!!!

Luckily PlayStation has no games

# ? Feb 2, 2023 23:14

Seltzer: Oct 11, 2012; Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!

Alright cool, Skate 2 secured. The only thing I cared about on that list.

# ? Feb 2, 2023 23:54

nom epique: Apr 24, 2022; by VideoGames

Copped an OLED switch�. Xbox is finished bro

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:08

Wiltsghost: Mar 27, 2011

Why would you buy a switch 6 years into its life cycle. Things gonna be obsolete next year.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:20

nom epique: Apr 24, 2022; by VideoGames

Wiltsghost posted:

Why would you buy a switch 6 years into its life cycle. Things gonna be obsolete next year.

The OLED switch ch just dropped bro. And I have a whole catalog of win games to explore�..my failbox is what� two years old? And not s si Nile game except fail games that lean heavily on violence as a replacement for good gameplay

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:23

BonoMan: Feb 20, 2002; Jade Ear Joe

*Fires up Vampire Survivors based on recommendations*

*30 seconds in* "What is this poo poo?"

*4 hours later*

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:32

Rev. Bleech_: Oct 19, 2004; ~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

BonoMan posted:

*Fires up Vampire Survivors based on recommendations*

*30 seconds in* "What is this poo poo?"

*4 hours later*

this is The Arc

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:40

nom epique: Apr 24, 2022; by VideoGames

BonoMan posted:

*Fires up Vampire Survivors based on recommendations*

*30 seconds in* "What is this poo poo?"

*4 hours later*

Seemingly the onl game on Xbox worth playing is a mobile game

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:45

1glitch0: Sep 4, 2018; I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

BonoMan posted:

*Fires up Vampire Survivors based on recommendations*

*30 seconds in* "What is this poo poo?"

*4 hours later*

Yup. I quit about 30 seconds in because I thought the game was bugged since I couldn't control my weapons.

Now it's the only game I've ever 100%ed.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:47

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

nom epique posted:

The OLED switch ch just dropped bro. And I have a whole catalog of win games to explore�..my failbox is what� two years old? And not s si Nile game except fail games that lean heavily on violence as a replacement for good gameplay

Semper games, bud

# ? Feb 3, 2023 03:01

nom epique: Apr 24, 2022; by VideoGames

Can anyone name a single game that even makes use of Xbox supposedly good graphics?

# ? Feb 3, 2023 03:34

hatty: Feb 28, 2011; Pork Pro

Hitman 3 looks good

# ? Feb 3, 2023 03:38

ColdPie: Jun 9, 2006

AoE2 on console is surprisingly awesome. Automating the villager management really cuts down on the hassle. I did two solo comp stomps tonight, gonna try some real multiplayer tomorrow.

I haven't gotten the hang of selecting military units. I normally have two or three groups assigned to numbers, but I haven't seen a great way to do that here. I guess the Find menu by type is close enough? Need to play around with that more.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 03:47

hanyolo: Jul 18, 2013; I am an employee of the Microsoft Gaming Division and they pay me to defend the Xbox One on the Something Awful Forums

nom epique posted:

Can anyone name a single game that even makes use of Xbox supposedly good graphics?

Plague Tale, Hifi Rush, Metro Exodus, FH5 off the top of my head

# ? Feb 3, 2023 04:06

the rat fandom: Apr 28, 2010

Only with the power of xbox game pass you can finally play the hot new release goldeneye the way it was always meant to be played

# ? Feb 3, 2023 04:06

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

nom epique posted:

Can anyone name a single game that even makes use of Xbox supposedly good graphics?

witcher 3 free next gen update op

# ? Feb 3, 2023 05:43

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY: Feb 3, 2006

Frame rates are graphics, no matter what some ancient computer janitor goon tries to tell you. Try Resident Evil 2

# ? Feb 3, 2023 05:53

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Frame rates are graphics, no matter what some ancient computer janitor goon tries to tell you. Try Resident Evil 2

# ? Feb 3, 2023 05:56

OldSenileGuy: Mar 13, 2001

Ok, so now I have a Series X in the living room and my old OneX in the office. Only one XBLU membership/account though. Am I correct that there's no way to be playing games on both consoles at the same time? Even if one of the games is one I purchased (ie: not a GamePass game)??

# ? Feb 3, 2023 07:01

Douche4Sale: May 8, 2003; ...and then God said, "Let there be douche!"

OldSenileGuy posted:

Ok, so now I have a Series X in the living room and my old OneX in the office. Only one XBLU membership/account though. Am I correct that there's no way to be playing games on both consoles at the same time? Even if one of the games is one I purchased (ie: not a GamePass game)??

Your "home" console can load anything you own or on game pass without requiring you to login. Other consoles require your account to be logged in.

So you play via your non home system and someone else plays on the home system and you both play at the same time. You can even have yourself just signed in on the background of the non home system and the active account can play your things too.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 07:51

John F Bennett: Jan 30, 2013; I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

ColdPie posted:

AoE2 on console is surprisingly awesome. Automating the villager management really cuts down on the hassle. I did two solo comp stomps tonight, gonna try some real multiplayer tomorrow.

I haven't gotten the hang of selecting military units. I normally have two or three groups assigned to numbers, but I haven't seen a great way to do that here. I guess the Find menu by type is close enough? Need to play around with that more.

When you activate advanced controls, there is something called control groups. I think you can assign units to them and hotkey them.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 09:09

Quantum of Phallus: Dec 27, 2010

nom epique posted:

Can anyone name a single game that even makes use of Xbox supposedly good graphics?

do not reply to this sony user

# ? Feb 3, 2023 10:52

Crafty: Dec 9, 2003; I CAN'T SEE SHIT.

xbox one is the best

BonoMan posted:

*Fires up Vampire Survivors based on recommendations*

*30 seconds in* "What is this poo poo?"

*4 hours later*

I still need to go through this process.

Is monster hunter rise gameplay worth sitting through the cats riding dogs and twin schoolgirl stuff for?

# ? Feb 3, 2023 12:13

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

Crafty posted:

Is monster hunter gameplay worth

Yes.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 12:15

Barudak: May 7, 2007

Crafty posted:

I still need to go through this process.

Is monster hunter rise gameplay worth sitting through the cats riding dogs and twin schoolgirl stuff for?

# ? Feb 3, 2023 12:18

ColdPie: Jun 9, 2006

John F Bennett posted:

When you activate advanced controls, there is something called control groups. I think you can assign units to them and hotkey them.

Are advanced controls in settings somewhere? I didn't see it.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 12:32

SUNKOS: Jun 4, 2016

American McGay posted:

There might be some specific browser combination that works but it always hangs on the purchase screen for me.

I use Firefox and was able to buy Spelunky but I had the same brief issue Beastie had. Kinda tempted to grab Jet Set Radio too if that's leaving as well. Shame they could never work out BC for Jet Set Radio Future despite actively trying, makes me wonder if they tried for Burnout 3 and hit a similar roadblock? Licensed songs would be an issue but EA just seems to have contempt for the IP as well. Who knows though maybe with Dead Space being such a successful remaster and the NFS series continuing to be bad they might maybe consider a Burnout 3 remaster? Just get new songs or enable custom soundtracks or something.

Speaking of Dead Space btw I was really excited for Callisto Protocol because it looked great but I saw people saying it's not very good did they somehow screw it up?

# ? Feb 3, 2023 12:45

welcome: Jun 28, 2002; rail slut

ColdPie posted:

Are advanced controls in settings somewhere? I didn't see it.

Under Options -> Interface, there's a Standard/Advanced toggle. It's down a little ways and easy to miss.

I highly recommend the William Wallace campaign for the control lessons alone. Advanced controls tutorial is in mission 4.

# ? Feb 3, 2023 12:46

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# ? May 25, 2024 09:43

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crafty posted:

I still need to go through this process.

Is monster hunter rise gameplay worth sitting through the cats riding dogs and twin schoolgirl stuff for?

If you didn't like the elf shrine maidens then I really don't know what to tell you. Besides put the game in JA because the English VA is insanely, insanely bad. Like seriously play through to the first or second task and if it doesn't suck you in idk what to say.

Probably look up how weapons work online though because I discovered today that long sword actually has more than two attacks and you aren't really supposed to use the default ones. It has like combos that you unleash by building up a meter. It doesn't explain this anywhere that I can tell, despite the game having 30,0000 tutorials that pop up and pause the game.

Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Feb 3, 2023

# ? Feb 3, 2023 13:03

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