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Diva Cupcake posted:Let's do a 2 year sample. Jimmy G looking good
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TheBizzness posted:Jimmy G looking good
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Feb 3, 2023 19:29
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Diva Cupcake posted:If he could reasonably be counted on to stay healthy for a full year he might be the top option. That’s what Baker is for, duh.
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Feb 3, 2023 19:31
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Professor Funk posted:No it wouldn’t. Committing yourself to mediocrity is, in fact, garbage Better than trading a first+ for it Diva Cupcake posted:I have no doubt that you’d much rather they sign Andy Dalton. I am rooting for them to waste major assets on busted rear end fraudgers
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Feb 3, 2023 19:36
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A cool play I’d forgotten about, sadly demonstrating that even the better lineman still stink https://twitter.com/SneakyJoeSports/status/1621492679807737858?s=20&t=3pfLB0eUXX2VVKgt-JEa-A
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https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1621590304649531392 https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1621595257887690752 Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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Feb 3, 2023 20:36
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As Mcmagic said, Sauce really is a poster https://twitter.com/iamsaucegardner/status/1621601008630771713?s=46&t=45T2z7P8ZdO1DfhAgHYfrA
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fsif posted:Look you all said I was insane last year when I said Zach Wilson was a bust and not worth building a season around. Also; don’t think we said that. I think we said the Jets shouldn’t have given up on Wilson after one year. In hindsight they should have obviously, but their plan with him for 2022 wasn’t really unreasonable. Honestly, they gave up on him pretty quickly for a #2 overall pick all things considered. I actually think most of us were pretty reasonable about Wilson. We saw some glimmers of improvement early on that he could maybe build on, but that all burned to the ground between the two Pats games. But maybe I’m misremembering! Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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Feb 3, 2023 21:15
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The refrain was that 2022 was about seeing what the Jets had in Zach Wilson (i.e., building a season around him); I said his rookie season was Rosen tier and we've seen enough. The Jets doubled down on their approach by assembling a ghastly QB room. It was a bad process and it was very preventable. Just like it'd be a bad process to trade significant draft capital and then take on a $40 million cap hit around the time you need to sign Sauce and Wilson to get a 40 year old QB coming off his worst, most disgruntled season!
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fsif posted:The refrain was that 2022 was about seeing what the Jets had in Zach Wilson (i.e., building a season around him); I said his rookie season was Rosen tier and we've seen enough. Didn’t you say the same things about Fields and Lawrence?
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Didn’t you say the same things about Fields and Lawrence? No.
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excited about vic fangio and tua's new brain
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fsif posted:No. Maybe I’m remembering a more general argument along the lines of “quarterbacks who have a bad rookie year will probably always be bad and so teams would be smart to move on faster.”
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sirtommygunn posted:I genuinely believe signing Jacoby Brissett is a greater winning move than trading for old bitch Rodgers. Wtf is going on in this thread?
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Maybe I’m remembering a more general argument along the lines of “quarterbacks who have a bad rookie year will probably always be bad and so teams would be smart to move on faster.” Yea, Josh Allen is pretty much the only outlier when it comes to his rookie season stats and taking a positive jump the second year. Most rookies that are that bad stay that bad. I was arguing the Jets should dump Wilson last offseason because every single QB who took snaps last year looked way better then he did. Josh Johnson shouldn't come on in relief and throw for 300+ yards and 3 TDs while Wilson didn't have a single 3 TD game.
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syzpid posted:Yea, Josh Allen is pretty much the only outlier when it comes to his rookie season stats and taking a positive jump the second year. Most rookies that are that bad stay that bad. Was Allen any worse than Lawrence in his rookie yaar?
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Justin Fields was not any better than Zach Wilson by any metric last year so discussion of why the Jets should move on should have also applied to the Bears. This jury is out if Fields ever becomes a good QB but it’s pretty clear an effective offense can be structure around someone of his skill set. He would also be an extreme outlier.
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tarbrush posted:Was Allen any worse than Lawrence in his rookie yaar? Allen didn't have Urban to blame
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Chris James 2 posted:Allen didn't have Urban to blame This, and Lawrence still had a nearly 60% Completion percentage at least. Allen was 53% his rookie year. The worst you could say about Lawrence is that he looked like he might not be the generational QB people thought he would be.
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Another year of Beasley https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/04/cole-beasley-interested-in-returning-to-bills-in-2023/
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Chris James 2 posted:Another year of Beasley https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/04/cole-beasley-interested-in-returning-to-bills-in-2023/ 
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Chris James 2 posted:Another year of Beasley https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/04/cole-beasley-interested-in-returning-to-bills-in-2023/ I'm waiting with baited breath for Cole Beasley to weigh in on whether or not Damar Hamlin died from the vaccine and was replaced by a body double.
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https://theathletic.com/4154550/2023/02/04/nfl-draft-bryce-young-cj-stroud-panthers-frank-reich/Howe posted:The Jets remain poised to acquire a veteran quarterback this offseason to take over the starting job, but they’re still assessing their plan of attack. The names to watch are Aaron Rodgers, Jimmy Garoppolo and Derek Carr.
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syzpid posted:This, and Lawrence still had a nearly 60% Completion percentage at least. Allen was 53% his rookie year. The worst you could say about Lawrence is that he looked like he might not be the generational QB people thought he would be. Lawrence turned the ball over a lot his freshman year, even by rookie QB standards.
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Chris James 2 posted:https://theathletic.com/4154550/2023/02/04/nfl-draft-bryce-young-cj-stroud-panthers-frank-reich/
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Chris James 2 posted:https://theathletic.com/4154550/2023/02/04/nfl-draft-bryce-young-cj-stroud-panthers-frank-reich/ Didn't like the whole Jets organization say, "Zac sucks and is a lovely person" for the last quarter of the season?
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Hence he's not going to fetch anything in a trade and they might as well keep him in the hope he gets his head out of his arse
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From what I read Wilson actually did a lot to be contrite and take ownership for his performance after the benching, so hopefully the locker room stuff is less of an issue now. He just sucks.
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Can't wait for next season where Rodgers gets benched for Wilson.
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Professor Funk posted:FWIW this makes no sense. Sure I would rather have Rodgers than Carr but I would also much rather have Carr than all the other options. They can't bring loving Jimmy G here and have him get hurt after 3 games......
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Chris James 2 posted:https://theathletic.com/4154550/2023/02/04/nfl-draft-bryce-young-cj-stroud-panthers-frank-reich/ Yeah uhhhh wow, when I posted this I wasn't shocked but am now knowing it's the exact priority order (1. Rodgers, 2. Jimmy, 3. Carr) for the team  what da hell
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It always seemed likely that Jimmy was being carried by the scheme and the playmakers but then you got undeniable proof of it this season. Just loving lmao if any team makes him their guy.
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If all that’s true, their calculation is probably that the gap between Carr and Jimmy G isn’t large enough to push them away from waiting out/swinging for Rodgers at the expense of getting Carr. Maybe that’s not a totally insane eval given the scheme they run and Jimmy G’s relationship with Saleh? But definitely seems wrong to me. It’s a high-wire act for sure. Unfortunately they probably can’t get Rodgers without the high-wire act.
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Professor Funk posted:I don’t know if that’s a totally insane eval given the scheme they run The Hackett scheme?
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Professor Funk posted:It’s a high-wire act for sure. Unfortunately they probably can’t get Rodgers without the high-wire act. https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1621493540751646728?s=46&t=v8QuM1UjSHIgcdFcXoaA9g
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fsif posted:The Hackett scheme? Yes? There’s going to be some scheme continuity between him and MLF for sure.
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Professor Funk posted:If all that’s true, their calculation is probably that the gap between Carr and Jimmy G isn’t large enough to push them away from waiting out/swinging for Rodgers at the expense of getting Carr. Maybe that’s not a totally insane eval given the scheme they run and Jimmy G’s relationship with Saleh? But definitely seems wrong to me. It’s a high-wire act for sure. Unfortunately they probably can’t get Rodgers without the high-wire act. There is very little difference between Carr and Jimmy when they both play but banking your season on Jimmy staying healthy is completely insane. The dude literally gets hurt every year. They could be look at Zach Wilson as the starting QB by week 4 of next season.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Nania said similar a couple days ago. And to be clear: it’s going to be absolutely miserable if stuff like this is any indication https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1622211667806281728?s=46&t=jS_xnvYw1HDxM7VKpY1Atg
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