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zone
Dec 6, 2016


I'm surprised it took this long for this to happen, or at least be reported on.

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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Nybble posted:

i hope they at least got some tickets to the World Cup as well

No clue about tickets - they wouldn't have been able to go anyway (since they're currently in Federal prison on the payroll tax theft).

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





i read the bbby stuff and it's more sad to me than it is funny. it's obvious something in their lives caused them a lot of stress (probably the stock market tanking this past year) and they're using all these conspiracy theories to try and make sense of it all. seems eerily like all the conspiracy stuff with covid. although the covid stuff seems to have had a bunch of far-right / racism tropes attached to it

basically this:
https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1621774679525707776

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
https://twitter.com/CoinDesk/status/1622300376371273728

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

On the one hand SBF is toxic enough they may not want to associate. On the other hand, who am I loving kidding because politics is such a grift under zero obligation to return anything.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


FTX really is the grift that keeps on giving.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


I'm not sure you want to reclaim political money considering it's the only avenue of rescue

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





most politicians donate any money that they think is dirty because the optics of returning money back to the said dirty entity looks pretty bad!

so lmao that FTX thinks anyone is going to return the money. at best they'll wash their hands of the funds by giving it to a charity.

edit: after clicking through the article they mention this and FTX is threatening to go after them regardless. yeah okay buddy see ya in court.

edit: 1/3 of congress was given money by FTX.. lmao

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

Pham Nuwen posted:

buddy that's like 60% of this thread

Agents are GO! posted:

Isn't that the point of this thread?


no, we experience a perverse schadenfreude at the ideas that are obviously stupid failing spectacularly. i'm talking about someone looking at a fat finger transaction or poorly written smart contract and going "good, the system works. the strong shall dominate the weak"

Boxturret posted:

it's more like some kind of perverse moralistic joy in watching some randian's life savings being irretrievably launched into a black hole by their own hands

yes, exactly

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

zedprime posted:

And if the world goes to poo poo gold picks up a lot of reasons it was a historic store of value. Takes effort to make more. Hard to adulterate except with things that are also rare which also take effort to make more. Relatively easy to determine legitimacy.

Like I wouldn't pay the current price for it or prioritize it over practical things like having friendly neighbors and or guns which are prerequisite for holding value in a rough society anyway. But gold would likely find new-old uses if suddenly the government disappears.

crazy idea, i think paper money and coins would still be good , and the wasteland war lord that takes control of the mints and then has a bunch of technicians to man the machines and a economists to do money supply good will be the king.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Strong Sauce posted:

most politicians donate any money that they think is dirty because the optics of returning money back to the said dirty entity looks pretty bad!

so lmao that FTX thinks anyone is going to return the money. at best they'll wash their hands of the funds by giving it to a charity.

edit: after clicking through the article they mention this and FTX is threatening to go after them regardless. yeah okay buddy see ya in court.

edit: 1/3 of congress was given money by FTX.. lmao

FTX is right: these contributions are likely a fraudulent transfer which lets the estate recover it - even if it was given away.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




zedprime posted:

And if the world goes to poo poo gold picks up a lot of reasons it was a historic store of value. Takes effort to make more. Hard to adulterate except with things that are also rare which also take effort to make more. Relatively easy to determine legitimacy.

Like I wouldn't pay the current price for it or prioritize it over practical things like having friendly neighbors and or guns which are prerequisite for holding value in a rough society anyway. But gold would likely find new-old uses if suddenly the government disappears.

Gold is a store of surplus value. If everyone is subsistence farming there isn't much surplus value to store. Forget gold, invest in bog butter. Bog butter will skyrocket in value in the post apocalyptic wasteland.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

no, we experience a perverse schadenfreude at the ideas that are obviously stupid failing spectacularly. i'm talking about someone looking at a fat finger transaction or poorly written smart contract and going "good, the system works. the strong shall dominate the weak"

Every single one of these people - every single one - thought they were smarter than any of the people who tried to warn them - "Have fun staying poor! :smuggo:" If they didn't lose their money to Nigerian prince scams, FTX, or r/wallstreetbets, they would absolutely have lost it to the next obvious scam that they happened to encounter.

It's not celebrating the strong dominating the week, it's laughing at arrogant imbeciles getting their comeuppance.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Boxturret posted:

it's more like some kind of perverse moralistic joy in watching some randian's life savings being irretrievably launched into a black hole by their own hands

It feels even better to me because I mentally replace “life savings” with “loan”

None of these assholes are disciplined enough to save any actual money

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

https://twitter.com/coinfessions/status/1620738744016932871?s=20&t=5xZEvs1nBxLv_GHb0ziz5w

https://twitter.com/coinfessions/status/1620134857966755849?s=20&t=5xZEvs1nBxLv_GHb0ziz5w

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

In any case 93 million seems a drop in the bucket considering the size or their hole

edit:
These fuckers lose all their money getting scammed in this huge unregulated casino but still is the government they hate

Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 5, 2023

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
I love how SBF said that declaring bankruptcy was a mistake because an hour after he did it a person came up to him with a couple giant bags full of money that would have covered all their losses, yet now they're scrabbling for every bit of money they can possibly get.

istewart
Apr 13, 2005

Still contemplating why I didn't register here under a clever pseudonym

Facebook Aunt posted:

Forget gold, invest in bog butter. Bog butter will skyrocket in value in the post apocalyptic wasteland.

I'm sorry, is this some sort of euphemism for smegma?

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

Bog butter is actually a thing, with the short version being "food buried in peat bogs, probably for preservation purposes."

I don't know how much of the original "invest in bog butter" was taking the piss, but if everything somehow goes to poo poo in a way that doesn't kill everybody, this is the kind of knowledge that will actually be really valuable. Nobody cares about a USB dongle that nobody can build the machines to build the machines to build the machines you need to read it that says you have five hundred Ragnarokoinz (to say nothing of all the infrastructure to power it), but making and preserving food? That's some news you can use!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

That’s not true.

Unless maybe you load that sentence up with multiple qualifiers.

:shrug: I was just going through his Wells Fargo business account statements and there was a line for cash deposit fee.

MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 5, 2023

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


There is absolutely a sucker mindset and some people definitely have it. Living with my father in law for the last two years has been revealing, seeing the poo poo he signs himself up for and poo poo he orders off of TV commercials. He's nominally a successful dentist which seems to insulate him from ruin, but drat

istewart posted:

I'm sorry, is this some sort of euphemism for smegma?

No no you're thinking of smen.

Squiggle fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Feb 5, 2023

zone
Dec 6, 2016


Some of the poo poo on this account was really funny but a lot of it was just depressing. I honestly felt really bad for some of the more negative confessions, true or not.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

MarcusSA posted:

:shrug: I was just going through his Wells Fargo business account statements and there was a line for cash deposit fee.



Banks nickel and dime business accounts for every little transaction because they can get away with it and businesses just write it off as a cost of doing business.

Personal accounts don't do that because consumers have grown to expect no fee accounts.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWAQ255qhs

Olanphonia
Jul 27, 2006

I'm open to suggestions~

Squiggle posted:

There is absolutely a sucker mindset and some people definitely have it. Living with my father in law for the last two years has been revealing, seeing the poo poo he signs himself up for and poo poo he orders off of TV commercials. He's nominally a successful dentist which seems to insulate him from ruin, but drat

No no you're thinking of smen.

I wanna hear more about the sucker dentist

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Strong Sauce posted:

most politicians donate any money that they think is dirty because the optics of returning money back to the said dirty entity looks pretty bad!

so lmao that FTX thinks anyone is going to return the money. at best they'll wash their hands of the funds by giving it to a charity.

edit: after clicking through the article they mention this and FTX is threatening to go after them regardless. yeah okay buddy see ya in court.

edit: 1/3 of congress was given money by FTX.. lmao

I dunno I think if the story is that in was customers deposits the political donation people could argue they will return the money provided it goes straight to the depositors.

Or gently caress it release the list of who passed the money to whom and what favors they bought

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

MarcusSA posted:

:shrug: I was just going through his Wells Fargo business account statements and there was a line for cash deposit fee.


Like I said, multiple qualifiers.

It’s a business account.
That deposited more than $5000 per month. In this case it was $26,000.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

MechaCrash posted:

Bog butter is actually a thing, with the short version being "food buried in peat bogs, probably for preservation purposes."

I don't know how much of the original "invest in bog butter" was taking the piss, but if everything somehow goes to poo poo in a way that doesn't kill everybody, this is the kind of knowledge that will actually be really valuable. Nobody cares about a USB dongle that nobody can build the machines to build the machines to build the machines you need to read it that says you have five hundred Ragnarokoinz (to say nothing of all the infrastructure to power it), but making and preserving food? That's some news you can use!

but when I teach the wastelanders show to make a buttcoin loom and ham radio set up I will be a supa war lord that will go to da moon!


more semi serious prepper advice. learn basic astronomy so basic monthly or weekly timekeeping doesnt die off. time keeping in the resolution of weeks/days is apparently important for farming.
oh maybe also have basic weather/meteorological stuff.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Like I said, multiple qualifiers.

It’s a business account.
That deposited more than $5000 per month. In this case it was $26,000.

$5000 is laughably low for a business account though.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Cash tends to be about 10-30% of daily revenue for retail these days, so a $5000 cash deposit is likely $15-50k in total revenue which is extremely high for a small business

E: I know the business in question is service not retail, just speaking for the way banks see it - that $5k is a pretty generous cutoff, enough for them to start nickle and diming you if you reach it

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Feb 6, 2023

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES

getting paid to do nothing seems like a good gig to me, what is he bitching about



PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
going by vet goons, he should get a car loan just for VETS / R TOOPS and then crash the car into a ditch or pole.

also get married and start the divorce process.

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Zippy the Bummer posted:

getting paid to do nothing seems like a good gig to me, what is he bitching about

Other people are (theoretically) making more (soon, once hyperbitcoinisation occurs)!

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
Has anybody said "HyperBedBathandBeyondisation" yet?

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Hypermoneyawayfromyouization.

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext

Agents are GO! posted:


It's not celebrating the strong dominating the week, it's laughing at arrogant imbeciles getting their comeuppance.

Few understand. It helps the schadenfreude flow when you read them going full villain monologue “and then when I’m at the 1% wealth of the new capitalism everyone will sob at my feet and I’ll call them stupid, anyone spreading FUD should be reported to the cops, now interrogate the retail workers for information in-store today as due diligence” every 5 seconds. All sympathy at being scammed fades rapidly when they immediately start trying to scam themselves and get greater fools to be their bagholders.


Also cryptocurrency scambots are now spamming on the next hottest social media website: … tumblr.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




istewart posted:

I'm sorry, is this some sort of euphemism for smegma?

Nah, as MechaCrash said, it was a real thing. You bury butter, tallow, lard or other fat in a bog to preserve it. Normally milk production is a seasonal thing, so burying the surplus when production is high lets you have butter all year round. Same with lard, tallow, or other fats where you slaughter an animal and have a bunch, but want to save some for later. This isn't just preserving food, it's preserving high value food. A jar of preserved fat is much more valuable than a jar of preserved grain or potatoes, right?

Burying it in the bog also keeps raiders and tax collectors from stealing your precious reserves of butter.

In the post apocalyptic wasteland animal husbandry is going to crash too. No butter, no lard, not even loving canola oil. Good clean fat becomes a luxury good again. So if you have a bog you can invest in lard now, bury it, and just wait for it to go to the moon. No electricity, no maintenance, the bog takes care of everything. If your apocalypse takes 2 years or 20 the bog butter will be just fine.

Is it stupid? Yes. But still better than buttcoins. Butter will always have value, and so is a better store of value than an asset that can go down to $0.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/Eve6/status/1622428923610169344?t=haqkLaoGtHQcEiq52foqqA&s=19

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007


Oddo my Apes!

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
A slurp too far

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