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Feb 5, 2023 00:42
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Mahoning posted:Link Between Worlds HD 
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Feb 5, 2023 00:51
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I’m just starting BOTW. How do I get a warm coat… this is win
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Feb 5, 2023 00:51
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Just make link rub his arms together to stay warm.
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Feb 5, 2023 01:08
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The Maroon Hawk posted:"Hello! I'm Eiji Aonuma. We hope you enjoyed this Direct! I'm sure many of you were expecting news about The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom. Unfortunately...here is the sequel to Super Mario Run, Super Wario Run"
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The only thing that would appease me if TotK got delayed would be the announcement of a Waluigi solo game. In fact I might prefer it!
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"Hello, I'm Eiji Aonuma. I have defeated Shigeru Miyamoto in hand to hand combat. It is now pronounce 'merry-o' and also Zelda is canceled forever."
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Feb 5, 2023 01:25
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Cojawfee posted:It is now pronounce 'merry-o' *unsheaths katana*
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Feb 5, 2023 01:46
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nom epique posted:I’m just starting BOTW. How do I get a warm coat… this is win Just carry a torch around jeez
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Feb 5, 2023 02:09
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Seriously just look at the little temperature meter on the screen in different situations and do stuff that makes it warmer while you’re in the cold place. Any way you figure out yourself is gonna be more fun.
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Feb 5, 2023 06:17
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There's a cabin in part of the woods. I missed that my first time through.
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brap posted:Seriously just look at the little temperature meter on the screen in different situations and do stuff that makes it warmer while you’re in the cold place. Any way you figure out yourself is gonna be more fun. This. The whole point of BOTW is figuring out how to do it in whatever way you can think of.
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Feb 5, 2023 08:23
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I suggest you either go towards warm things, or bring warm things with you.
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Feb 5, 2023 08:35
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sigher posted:How is this game out in three months and there's been nothing but radio silence for what seems like an eternity? We didn't know that Metroid Dread even existed* less than four months from its release. * Yes I know of the old articles for back when it was going to be on DS or whatever, I'm talking about the version we got.
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Feb 5, 2023 16:03
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Metroid Dread is maybe the most pleasant surprise in videogame history. Nintendo: "There's a new 2D Metroid game coming out! Also it's only a few months away! Also it's the best one." (Not an invitation to argue about which Metroid is best but yes I do think Dread is up there with Super.)
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Feb 5, 2023 16:31
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There had been talk of a Metroid Prime 4 for a while though, and it's unclear how that is doing.YggiDee posted:I suggest you either go towards warm things, or bring warm things with you. The sun is warm.
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Feb 5, 2023 16:46
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New bomb launch to the sun strat just dropped.
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Link is honing in on Pitt's territory
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MokBa posted:Link is honing in on Pitt's territory Man, we really could use another Kid Icarus game
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SlothfulCobra posted:There had been talk of a Metroid Prime 4 for a while though, and it's unclear how that is doing. Well, we know that it was taken away from Bandai Namco and completely restarted under Retro, and Retro did some heavy staffing-up three years ago. So we could presumably hear about it in an upcoming Direct.
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MokBa posted:Metroid Dread is maybe the most pleasant surprise in videogame history. It was way better than I originally though it would be. I completely lost interest when all they showed were the EMMIs but then got hyped as hell when they showed the story trailer. Then, yes, it came out and it was nearly as good as Super. (Super will always be #1 in my 10 year-old heart)
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Feb 5, 2023 21:41
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Is this what it's like for people who play Zelda who didn't start with OoT? Cuz I took a run through the Metroid games a few years ago in release order, having never played them before- starting with Super, and I found Super to be the weakest of the 2D Metroids. Still a super good game, mind, but every other 2D Metroid released after it improved upon it.
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Feb 5, 2023 22:08
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Super Metroid uses very subtle means to guide the player and create the illusion that you're discovering things on your own. The cleverness that makes it a masterpiece becomes more apparent through replays and close examination. Those classic techniques are out of favor in modern game design, in which it's preferred to use very explicit means to draw the player's attention to the way the game works and its overall structure. Zero Mission, for instance, has excellent thumbfeel, but even in just the decade between it and Super Metroid, there's a noticeable shift in how the presence of alternate paths through the game world are communicated to the player.
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Feb 5, 2023 22:18
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Super has a bit of a funky default joypad config, but my extremely biased brain doesn’t know how you play it and don’t see it as near perfection. The mechanics, the physics, the story and way it’s told, the art, the absolutely perfect soundtrack. I like all the other 2D games that came out after, and AM2R, but something about Super just feels special to me.
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Asterite34 posted:Man, we really could use another Kid Icarus game I’ll settle for a rerelease of Uprising with a sane control scheme
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Feb 5, 2023 22:30
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Super has the best world design of any 2D Metroid IMO. It's a real feat of art and design that it manages to guide you through the game without ever explicitly telling you where to go. There's a reason the term Metroidvania exists and imo no one has really pulled it off with the same level of subtlety that Super Metroid did. But from Fusion onward the one thing they consistently improve upon is Samus' movement within the world. And it's just so loving satisfying to move from room to room in Dread. I played through the game three times in the first month it was out because it was just so dang fun! To bring it back around, I do think the best Zelda dungeons are mini-Metroidvanias, where you unlock more and more of the dungeon until you can freely move through it all and beat the final boss. Of course I don't like too much backtracking in my Zelda dungeons but when it's done right it's masterful.
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nom epique posted:I’m just starting BOTW. How do I get a warm coat… this is win Cook a tasty meal, that is all.
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A tasty meal is like a coat for your insides
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Silver Falcon posted:Is this what it's like for people who play Zelda who didn't start with OoT? I went from LOZ > LA > OoT. I was born in the late 80s so when I started playing video games, there were only 2 Zelda games. Silver Falcon posted:Cuz I took a run through the Metroid games a few years ago in release order, having never played them before- starting with Super, and I found Super to be the weakest of the 2D Metroids. Still a super good game, mind, but every other 2D Metroid released after it improved upon it. Are you putting Metroid 1 above Super?
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The version of Metroid 1 that's on GBA is pretty great.
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sigher posted:I went from LOZ > LA > OoT. I was born in the late 80s so when I started playing video games, there were only 2 Zelda games. No. I haven't touched Metroid 1 or 2. That's why I said I started with Super.
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sigher posted:How is this game out in three months and there's been nothing but radio silence for what seems like an eternity? They are going to just release it and not give out review copies. You hate to see it.
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For most of my childhood, it was my sister who got more into Zelda games than I did. I played Link's Awakening, but my sister got way further than me. When we rented Ocarina of Time, I couldn't figure out what was going on. We had Majora's Mask, and I was too much of a baby child scared of the apocalypse to make much progress. I really loved Wind Waker and made actual progress in it, but I think the disk getting scratched stood in the way of finishing (I might've managed to finally finish at some point later, but Dragonroost refusing to load was really disheartening). Twilight Princess was the first Zelda I played on my own apart from my sister, and it was the first one I finally managed to play all the way through, and it was great. Loved it. Then Skyward Sword came along, and I kinda never got anywhere with that and my sister back from college did more with it. Silver Falcon posted:Is this what it's like for people who play Zelda who didn't start with OoT? Silver Falcon posted:No. I haven't touched Metroid 1 or 2. That's why I said I started with Super. Zero is a remake of 1, Returns is a remake of 2. There's only really been 2 new 2D Metroids after Super unless you count like spinball. It's kind of a weird series. I feel like Super Metroid is maybe the SNES games that holds up the most in the modern day without any remakes or improvements necessary, but there's still a couple of janky bits (I hate shinesparking and I'm no good at walljumps). I think it's also still towards the top so far as nonlinearity goes. I never played the first Metroid either (it has a LOT more jank although it may be more freeform) but Zero Mission really tries to lead you by the nose. Metroid Fusion also had an annoying linearity, and it cuts you off from backtracking to get upgrades at the end. And probably one of the best things about Super Metroid is how it does so much with no dialogue, which I started to get pretty annoyed in Dread at the long infodumps.
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Silver Falcon posted:Is this what it's like for people who play Zelda who didn't start with OoT? idk i didn't play super until years after I'd already played Fusion and Zero Mission and I do love those games (plus Dread) and there are things I prefer about them, but Super Metroid is just really engrossing in a special way. I'd honestly consider Samus Returns among the lowest of the 2D games. the combat and level design weren't really all there, and the game didn't really capture the atmosphere of Metroid 2 in a good way. It honestly made me a bit pessimistic about the future of 2D Metroid at the time but luckily Dread was a huge leap forward from it.
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SR has a lot of issues but they struck me as first-swing issues so I was immediately hoping for something like Dread to let them refine things, though they definitely exceeded my expectations still. Great feeling game.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think it's also still towards the top so far as nonlinearity goes. I never played the first Metroid either (it has a LOT more jank although it may be more freeform) but Zero Mission really tries to lead you by the nose. OG Metroid is straight-up nonlinear. Once you get the bombs you can go after either Kraid or Ridley, and a handful of Samus's powerups are optional. As you said, ZM makes it more obvious that you're on rails, but it also has some opportunities for sequence breaking that just require you to pay attention and explore a bit on your own. As much as Dread is also on rails, I appreciate they also built similar opportunities into that game too. Fusion is something of a different beast. Yes it's linear to a fault, but it enables the environment to evolve in ways that they couldn't do if it was less linear. The environmental changes to Sector 2 in particular were pretty cool for the time.
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Yeah I didn’t care for SR much at all. It didn’t help that I was never comfortable with the 3DS’s thumb pad so playing it left my thumb sore. I loved Mecca Prime’s LP of Metroid 2 back in the day and was hoping to experience a version of it. There’s a lot positive I can say about it but ultimately it wasn’t for me. So when Dread was first announced I was like “well okaaaaay I mean it looks good and all….” And then I got it anyway and was totally blown away. Every single issue I had with Samus Returns was absent and it was just a great loving game. Definitely my personal favorite 2D Metroid. And I think that Super, Fusion, and Zero Mission are all fantastic in their own ways. Reminds me of when Link Between Worlds came out and was just so drat clever and fun with its inversion of the classic Zelda formula. I’d really love Nintendo to continue making top down Zelda games as well, especially since BotW is a completely different kind of game than those. I’d loooove it if we got the Oracle games in the same style as Link’s Awakening, but I’m not holding my breath either. It’s just a great formula and nothing out there is scratching it for me at all.
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Yeah, I love those top-down games, obviously they share DNA with the rest of the series but they really scratch a different itch than the 3D games for me. I'm not sure whether to expect anything much along those lines any more now that they've condensed things down into one system though. I've enjoyed the 2D Zelda-likes I've tried from other developers, but it's always been with a pretty big list of things that Nintendo just does better.
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