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Humphreys posted:Now tell me how to get rid of shorts I even tried a browser plugin but nada 
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Humphreys posted:Now tell me how to get rid of shorts Best you can do is hit Not Interested on each one. But they'll be back, and in greater numbers.
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Feb 5, 2023 15:44
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You need to shoot them in the head iirc
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Feb 5, 2023 15:55
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It sucks because it seems more and more “legit” channels are using shorts so they get mixed up in my feed now alongside videos I want to watch.
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Feb 5, 2023 16:21
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Humphreys posted:Now tell me how to get rid of shorts Blocktube: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/blocktube/bbeaicapbccfllodepmimpkgecanonai?hl=en-US (right now YT changed something an it appears to not be working......this happens regularly - edit: lol updated and its working again) While your adding plugins throw this one on too: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone?hl=en
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Feb 5, 2023 16:31
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Blown away that people actually use youtube beyond just occasionally clicking on links to videos from elsewhere. It's more irritating than any other site for me, at this point. Even worse than Reddit.
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Feb 5, 2023 19:26
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cat botherer posted:Blown away that people actually use youtube beyond just occasionally clicking on links to videos from elsewhere. It's more irritating than any other site for me, at this point. Even worse than Reddit. I have my set of subscriptions and bookmarks set to take me straight to them. Used this way it's mostly fine.
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Feb 5, 2023 19:33
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cat botherer posted:Blown away that people actually use youtube beyond just occasionally clicking on links to videos from elsewhere. It's more irritating than any other site for me, at this point. Even worse than Reddit. I don't see how it's even close to tolerable without an ad blocker. ON the occasions where I use my phone to look at it it's a loving nightmare of aggressive advertising that interrupts me every 3 or 4 minutes it seems.
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Feb 5, 2023 21:04
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If you're a sucker like me you pay for ad-free
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Feb 5, 2023 21:15
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Jethro posted:If you're a sucker like me you pay for ad-free $3/month if you use a VPN from Argentina.
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Feb 5, 2023 21:16
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't see how it's even close to tolerable without an ad blocker. ON the occasions where I use my phone to look at it it's a loving nightmare of aggressive advertising that interrupts me every 3 or 4 minutes it seems. Sometimes we use it briefly on our TV's browser and every time remember how using YouTube both without adblock and not being logged in, it's completely loving insane. And it always really does IMMEDIATELY start suggesting Jordan Peterson/etc. dogshit from the get go. Thank God for Newpipe on mobile devices lol Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Feb 5, 2023 |
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Feb 5, 2023 21:34
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my youtube pet peeve is you cant sort a channel's videos with oldest first anymore. oh and inf scroll BS. lol at modern information technology being worse then ancient binded pages of paper.
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Feb 5, 2023 22:54
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There's people who go on YouTube, like, they will actually open the front page and browse. Utterly deranged
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Feb 5, 2023 23:35
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The finest minds at YouTube have tuned their algorithm so that the front page suggests me van living videos (no slight to the people into it but I don't even drive LOL) and all the shorts it shows me are poo poo about Jordan loving Peterson or Andrew Tate. That being said, YouTube Premium and only browsing your subscriptions is pretty good.
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Feb 6, 2023 00:52
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I had YouTube premium for so long I legit forgot there were even ads until I tried watching on a different account. What a nightmare.
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Feb 6, 2023 01:03
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Yeah it's like using a new computer before installing an adblocker, just awful. Edit: And the family plan is wonderful, getting my family members on it was great since seemingly nobody ever wants to pay for anything they use, but they also hate the ads. Less Fat Luke fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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Feb 6, 2023 01:10
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There’s a thing you can do to pay the Argentine or Indian price instead. Like $4 a month or something. Pain in the rear end but totally worth it.
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Feb 6, 2023 02:06
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Less Fat Luke posted:The finest minds at YouTube have tuned their algorithm so that the front page suggests me van living videos (no slight to the people into it but I don't even drive LOL) and all the shorts it shows me are poo poo about Jordan loving Peterson or Andrew Tate. I turned off video and search history, and then manually blacklisted a handful of channels in my Home - Recommended almost every day until the algorithm gave up and only shows me videos from my Watch Later/subs (which is what I wanted in the first place), and a couple randoms (which I also blacklist).  After seven years or so, I've told YouTube not to recommend a good five thousand channels and climbing. It has no idea what the gently caress to do.The only good curation is self-curation.
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Feb 6, 2023 02:08
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Yeah I usually blacklist any channel mentioning Jorp, Tate etc but the fans seem to keep setting up new channels constantly (and yeah I clear my history periodically). Also after typing that previous message I watched a van video and now probably hosed everything up even more!
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Feb 6, 2023 02:34
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Just watch less politics on YouTube you rubes. I don’t get recommended anything political on YouTube. The algo knows I don’t care.
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Feb 6, 2023 02:53
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Vegetable posted:Just watch less politics on YouTube you rubes. I don’t get recommended anything political on YouTube. The algo knows I don’t care. I use youtube solely for asmr videos and let's plays of games for nerds and I go through waves; sometimes the recommendations will be shockingly good for a week or two, then suddenly right into pushing right wing propaganda. I really hate this almost victim-blaming tendency to assume someone getting bad recommendations must have done something to anger the almighty algorithm, it's always been varying types of poo poo by design.
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Feb 6, 2023 02:57
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"Should it even be possible to be recommended fetish porn on an ostensibly all-ages website?" "Oooh someone's telling on themselves, these are based on your browser history  "I've been guilty of this myself, the urge to get in a dunk is really strong, especially when it's a right-wing pundit complaining. But you can have microtargeting and content moderation, it just costs money corps don't wanna spend
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Feb 6, 2023 03:04
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I've had several Facebook accounts over the years and they've all eventually drifted to the conclusion that I'm Jewish, based on the ads I get (flattered, but nope.) Also about a 2 month period where I was constantly being bombarded with ads for engagement/wedding rings when I wasn't remotely in the market, and then 2 months after that all my ads were for those aggressively masculine branded products—dude wipes, man bathrobes, dude soap for your balls etc. I spend like 90% of my fun money on video games and metal concerts, my browsing history reflects this, it should not be this difficult to advertise to me. I vaguely recall reading that just putting static, subject-based ads on relevant websites is more effective than all the algorithmic microtargeting, but of course there's an entire ecosystem built on convincing people otherwise.
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Feb 6, 2023 03:32
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I'm still mad youtube music replaced google music
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Feb 6, 2023 03:32
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:I'm still mad youtube music replaced google music I tried using youtube music for a day and went back to spotify because every few songs there was a track that used a video with some long boring intro that wasn't music, because it all runs off videos
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Feb 6, 2023 04:04
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woke kaczynski posted:I vaguely recall reading that just putting static, subject-based ads on relevant websites is more effective than all the algorithmic microtargeting, but of course there's an entire ecosystem built on convincing people otherwise. drat near all big data/data driven intelligence has a lot of motivated reasoning behind it. Real data scientists care an awful lot about things like "confidence measures", but BD and ad sales reps do not give a poo poo. My company does just fine with contextual ads.
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Feb 6, 2023 04:27
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I have a really neat trick to deal with the youtube recommended videos section: if it recommends me a video I don't want to see, I don't watch it, and then I go about my day without complaining because it's not a big deal unless you're a lunatic. It's like the guy at the train station offering you crack. You can just be like, "no, man, I'm good!" and walk away. Someone else is gonna buy his crack, you don't need to spend a single goddamn second thinking about why he offered you, specifically the crack because it does not matter. Personally, I enjoy decently targeted advertising. "Would you like to buy this guitar?" Why, yes, random ad, I would. I would very much like to buy that guitar.
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Feb 6, 2023 04:38
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Neo Rasa posted:Sometimes we use it briefly on our TV's browser and every time remember how using YouTube both without adblock and not being logged in, it's completely loving insane. And it always really does IMMEDIATELY start suggesting Jordan Peterson/etc. dogshit from the get go. YouTube sucks rear end but I've never seen it recommend jorp and I spent years using it not logged in on my xbox. I'm not saying I don't believe you or that you're doing anything wrong, just that their stupid algorithm is so unbelievably, inscrutably bad. Also NewPipe owns.
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Feb 6, 2023 05:16
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Ruffian Price posted:There's people who go on YouTube, like, they will actually open the front page and browse. Utterly deranged that's me, i'm subscribed to like 400 channels of varying special interests but the front page does a pretty good job of showing me the ones related to whatever i've been watching recently so it's actually a useful browsing tool. e: to be clear, i have youtube premium and aggressively tell it to stop recommending channels/videos i'm not interested in. it has rarely shown me chud stuff, but occasionally it does. i also generally don't watch anything political, hbomberguy at like the most.
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Feb 6, 2023 05:18
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It can make some very weird jumps. A few years ago, I started getting ads for paramilitary gear after I searched for Hawai'ian shirts. That was depressing.
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Arivia posted:that's me, i'm subscribed to like 400 channels of varying special interests but the front page does a pretty good job of showing me the ones related to whatever i've been watching recently so it's actually a useful browsing tool. This is similar to my experience, I have tons of subs which it usually draws from but I click though videos from friends etc. so occasionally I have to blacklist some poo poo. It's OKAY for mindless browsing from the TV, but I would pay extra to just have it pull exclusively from my subscriptions and provide baseline sorting/organizing tools. On PC I just bookmark channels and videos. Still a thousand times better than tv. MixMasterMalaria fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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Vegetable posted:Just watch less politics on YouTube you rubes. I don’t get recommended anything political on YouTube. The algo knows I don’t care. I'd prefer the algorithm not recommend me anything at all. It's not my friend, I don't care for Google's attempts to drive me down a rabbit hole in the name of engagement metrics, and I'm not interested in the crowd sourced opinion of the internet. But since i can't turn it off, I'd rather randomize it.
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Mister Facetious posted:I'd prefer the algorithm not recommend me anything at all. It's not my friend, I don't care for Google's attempts to drive me down a rabbit hole in the name of engagement metrics, and I'm not interested in the crowd sourced opinion of the internet. But since i can't turn it off, I'd rather randomize it. I mean it works both ways doesn’t it? You’re not Google’s friend either. What, you thought they run YouTube out of the goodness of their heart? Also I pay $0 and get 0 seconds of ads (other than the hard recorded stuff like sponsor messages) because adblockers exist. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Feb 6, 2023 |
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Feb 6, 2023 10:02
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Boris Galerkin posted:I mean it works both ways doesn’t it? You’re not Google’s friend either. What, you thought they run YouTube out of the goodness of their heart? I'm not talking about adblockers, i never even mentioned ads. And i already use them. I'm talking about content delivery. All i want it to do is recommend the content I'm already subbed to, and have a search function that isn't poo poo (and i think we all know how great the latter has been lately)
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Feb 6, 2023 10:17
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Feb 6, 2023 10:20
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Feb 6, 2023 10:39
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Boris Galerkin posted:You know you can use your favorite internet browser and go directly to your subscriptions? Yeah I'll get right on that on my tv OH WAIT
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