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withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Also NewPipe owns.

This is the only way I can stomach going on YouTube now. Account free, Ad free, algorithm free, and with my subscriptions.

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Walh Hara
May 11, 2012
Beatbump.ml is also worth checking out: a music.youtube clone that is better in every single way.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Boris Galerkin posted:

Also I pay $0 and get 0 seconds of ads (other than the hard recorded stuff like sponsor messages)

fyi the SponsorBlock extension can take care of that for you.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


SponsorBlock is great, I never need to hear about how someone is sponsored by a power bank ever again

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Thanks Ants posted:

SponsorBlock is great, I never need to hear about how someone is sponsored by a power bank ever again

But I need my NordVPN to safely access Brilliant's course material!!!

uggy
Aug 6, 2006

Posting is SERIOUS BUSINESS
and I am completely joyless

Don't make me judge you

Mister Facetious posted:

I'd prefer the algorithm not recommend me anything at all. It's not my friend, I don't care for Google's attempts to drive me down a rabbit hole in the name of engagement metrics, and I'm not interested in the crowd sourced opinion of the internet. But since i can't turn it off, I'd rather randomize it.

Randomize all content that you might see? What percentage of videos on YouTube do you think you’re actually interested in? .001%?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
All I want is basic discovery features. Give me the ability to explore by the tag of my choice, rather than a list of tags you think I might be interested in right now based on my recent activity. Then—crazy, I know—sorting and filtering controls to be able to modify the recommendations to my liking in as granular capacity as YouTube's data allows.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

PT6A posted:

I have a really neat trick to deal with the youtube recommended videos section: if it recommends me a video I don't want to see, I don't watch it, and then I go about my day without complaining because it's not a big deal unless you're a lunatic.

It's like the guy at the train station offering you crack. You can just be like, "no, man, I'm good!" and walk away. Someone else is gonna buy his crack, you don't need to spend a single goddamn second thinking about why he offered you, specifically the crack because it does not matter.

Personally, I enjoy decently targeted advertising. "Would you like to buy this guitar?" Why, yes, random ad, I would. I would very much like to buy that guitar.

The algorithm is known to push right wing content at people and when young impressionable minds are exposed to con-artists like Jorp or Tate it can and regularly does lead them down a dark a hosed up path. Congrats on you being able to just not click on that poo poo but that doesn't make it stop being a problem.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I don't know if this is helpful, but I have zero subscriptions on youtube, but regularly use bookmarks to check for updates on the channels I like. And now like 99% of my recommendations are from those channels and only those channels. So I'm wondering if the algorithm actually deprioritizes things you're subscribed to in an attempt to lead you somewhere new.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

uggy posted:

Randomize all content that you might see? What percentage of videos on YouTube do you think you’re actually interested in? .001%?

Less. I'm only interested in what I'm already subbed to. If I want to add to my list, I'll go looking for something new myself.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Evil Fluffy posted:

The algorithm is known to push right wing content at people and when young impressionable minds are exposed to con-artists like Jorp or Tate it can and regularly does lead them down a dark a hosed up path. Congrats on you being able to just not click on that poo poo but that doesn't make it stop being a problem.

Right, but that's not solved by you, personally, using an adblocker or premium, and it has nothing to do with you, personally, seeing recommended videos or advertising you do not enjoy.

Davedave24
Mar 11, 2004

Lacking in love
I wanted to know if I'm just so used to glossing past things I don't like that I don't pay attention to them anymore on my way to the subscriptions page, so I opened up my home page and scrolled through the first 50 videos it presented me. Of those, 24 were from channels I am already subscribed to, 8 were from channels I'm not subscribed to, but have watched multiple videos from recently, and 18 were from channels I don't recognize, but all were on topics I watch (not counting ad spots here).

Would genuinely be curious to see how this compares to other people's accounts!

Davedave24 fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 6, 2023

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Youtube quickly stops recommending Jorp videos if you constantly report them for hate speech every time you see them.

No joke my youtube is all boardwalk empire stuff ever since.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Walh Hara posted:

Beatbump.ml is also worth checking out: a music.youtube clone that is better in every single way.

Thanks for recommending this, just started exploring it and liking it so far

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Count me as one of those who go to the homepage and expect to see relevant content without having to go to my subscriptions page. I'd say it's like 75% good at it's job, but for whatever reasons sometimes it seems like updates from subscriptions with smaller audiences slip through the cracks.

Every now and then something wild gets into the homepage, like borderline softcore porn yoga videos with an insane amount of views, but I always expect I did something at some point that surface that. I'm just used to mentally move past the irrelevant stuff because it's not overwhelming.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Since it has been at least a week since the last complaint about Adobe Creative Cloud, I wrote some boring poo poo complaining about it and replaced it with this summary:

- If you have Acrobat Reader and try to create a pdf from another file (jpg/png, whatever) while logged in to an Adobe account, it will upload it to ~the cloud~ and make you download the converted file, giving you no option that I could see to save it locally only.
- If you do have an Adobe account (my employer pays what I'm guessing is an exorbitant sum for subscriptions), you'll need to uninstall Reader, possibly reinstall the unimaginably useless Creative Cloud app, and then download the offline installer for Acrobat Pro, which is 1.2GB for some unfathomable reason. Then as far as I can tell conversion happens entirely locally and you can concatenate files too.

Yes, I know that you can do most of this poo poo with free tools. I could also complain about institutions converting their perfectly functional and probably much cheaper email systems with Office365 poo poo.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

The Dave posted:

Count me as one of those who go to the homepage and expect to see relevant content without having to go to my subscriptions page. I'd say it's like 75% good at it's job, but for whatever reasons sometimes it seems like updates from subscriptions with smaller audiences slip through the cracks.

I actually use home semi-frequently because it will show you popular videos from your subscriptions in the past year or so, so on days when I don't catch up on all my subscriptions it can throw me a video I forgot about from a week or more ago. Every now and then it'll pull one from 3-4 years ago that I enjoyed and want to watch again

I think youtube must lock some of that poo poo behind premium, because it used to be awful until I started paying for it so I could watch it from my smart tv. Now it shows me exactly what I want with zero effort on my part to say "do not recommend" on Andrew tare or Jorp videos

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


BiggerBoat posted:

I don't see how it's even close to tolerable without an ad blocker. ON the occasions where I use my phone to look at it it's a loving nightmare of aggressive advertising that interrupts me every 3 or 4 minutes it seems.

I use YouTube with ublock and as a consequence every time I'm on a phone or my TV watching YouTube I get annoyed quickly

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

bawk posted:

I actually use home semi-frequently because it will show you popular videos from your subscriptions in the past year or so, so on days when I don't catch up on all my subscriptions it can throw me a video I forgot about from a week or more ago. Every now and then it'll pull one from 3-4 years ago that I enjoyed and want to watch again

I think youtube must lock some of that poo poo behind premium, because it used to be awful until I started paying for it so I could watch it from my smart tv. Now it shows me exactly what I want with zero effort on my part to say "do not recommend" on Andrew tare or Jorp videos

I don't have premium and definitely see months or year old videos from channels I sub to. I feel like that happens more after the like second or third row of suggestions but I can be completely wrong there. I agree it's rather nice.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1622637824661913604?t=eAXSu6L34X7qSU2-qXqH9Q&s=19

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005



Weirdly out of the couple of times I tuned into that channel, that's by far the most coherent it's ever been. More often than not the character would just stare blankly at the screen for several minutes between nonsensical Jerry/George conversations.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Name Change posted:

Weirdly out of the couple of times I tuned into that channel, that's by far the most coherent it's ever been. More often than not the character would just stare blankly at the screen for several minutes between nonsensical Jerry/George conversations.

It's strange, because I think that bit is an excellent parody of real standup comedians at this point, not really "transphobic" per se. How many have said things, in earnest, about how "today's audiences are too sensitive because they won't laugh at my lovely, lazy, bigoted jokes?"

Even Seinfeld himself said that!

Lyesh
Apr 9, 2003

Yeah, it's obvious that he's the butt of the joke and yet…

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Grammy when?

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!
When I first saw it, I was figuring whoever was behind it decided to rip off their mask. Now I'm not really sure:

Replicant Jerry Seinfeld posted:

So, this is my standup set in a club. There's, like, 50 people here, and no one is laughing. Anyone have suggestions? I'm thinking about doing a bit about being transgender is actually a mental illness . . . or how all liberals are secretly gay and want to impose their will on everyone. Or something about how transgender people are ruining the fabric of our society. But no one is laughing.

Within the subcontext of literally what's being said, he's spewing hate, but it's a hypothetical and it's wrapped around him saying nobody is laughing. I could see a real person trying to do that in a well-meaning way, although I'd expect them to get in poo poo for trying. I wouldn't even be mad at the reaction; if it were my friend, I'd have told them that they really hosed up. But I can also see a shithead trying to dance around in that hypothetical to say whatever disgusting poo poo they want.

So I guess I'm saying it was bad but there are levels here that the can't be shaken out with the text-to-speech, and I wonder if there was anything else happening before/after or if this was kind of a non-sequitur.

I still wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't somebody would take over the chair, pulling the levers with one hand, and pulling their mask off with the other.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

woke kaczynski posted:

I use youtube solely for asmr videos and let's plays of games for nerds and I go through waves; sometimes the recommendations will be shockingly good for a week or two, then suddenly right into pushing right wing propaganda. I really hate this almost victim-blaming tendency to assume someone getting bad recommendations must have done something to anger the almighty algorithm, it's always been varying types of poo poo by design.

I'm pretty sure watching videogame stuff gets you into the right wing algorithm funnel. I don't get any right wing or weird internet misogynist content unless I start watching lets plays of vaguely action-y games, or clips of films you'd imagine were popular with that crowd at which point suddenly it's straight into content that's pretty much HOW WOMEN RUIN ALL MEDIA and worse for a week until it kinda resets.

Lyesh
Apr 9, 2003

fwiw, i'm trans and i can easily see making a joke like that as a part of a stand-up set because it's so obvious to me that it's satire. then again nobody has ever been able to make satire that isn't taken seriously by a ton of people.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
Oh hey, I remember you.

For another thing on reccs they also take location and IP into account. I used to live in a big Indian area and got some Hindu and Dravidian stuff occasionally. My partner also watches wrestling stuff and I end up getting that stuff too.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



It's not proper 90's comedy without a bunch of stuff its contemporary fans don't like to talk about or acknowledge

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Lyesh posted:

fwiw, i'm trans and i can easily see making a joke like that as a part of a stand-up set because it's so obvious to me that it's satire. then again nobody has ever been able to make satire that isn't taken seriously by a ton of people.

Poe's Law.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I'm not clear on how much of AI Seinfeld is properly curated, so I kind of assumed it was a bit of funny, unintentional "art imitates reality" when I saw the headline.

Particularly when I think real Seinfeld has got a bit into the "complaining about college snowflakes" junk IIRC.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Didn't the AI show creators apologize, say they'd switched engines and didn't realize the new one had fewer discrimination filters, and take it down until fixed?

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Oxyclean posted:

I'm not clear on how much of AI Seinfeld is properly curated, so I kind of assumed it was a bit of funny, unintentional "art imitates reality" when I saw the headline.

Particularly when I think real Seinfeld has got a bit into the "complaining about college snowflakes" junk IIRC.

Most of the time it's 2-3 lines of inane nonsense as George's arms fold inside his body and he floats under the couch. TBH I'm not sure what the appeal was.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Name Change posted:

Most of the time it's 2-3 lines of inane nonsense as George's arms fold inside his body and he floats under the couch. TBH I'm not sure what the appeal was.

Possibly the creator was on a lot of shrooms in the 90s?

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice
What the gently caress was their training set? I thought the whole thing was built off Seinfeld episodes?

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

The only time I watched it Jerry mentioned almost hitting a squirrel with his car and George responded with it would have been a hilarious story if he hit the squirrel.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Name Change posted:

Most of the time it's 2-3 lines of inane nonsense as George's arms fold inside his body and he floats under the couch. TBH I'm not sure what the appeal was.

Probably just the novelty of smashing together a bunch of AI generation - not to mention having it running 24/7 - like twitch plays pokemon, or that guy's goldfish playing pokemon.

From a thing I saw talking about it, apparently the twitch chat was part of the appeal as people reacted with authenticity?

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


TBH I'm surprised Amazon let it run as long as they did and I assume they were looking for any plausible excuse to ban, because the 'joke' is pretty tame by Twitch standards.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

poemdexter posted:

What the gently caress was their training set?

That's the real question, innit? :iiam:

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Oxyclean posted:

Probably just the novelty of smashing together a bunch of AI generation - not to mention having it running 24/7 - like twitch plays pokemon, or that guy's goldfish playing pokemon.

From a thing I saw talking about it, apparently the twitch chat was part of the appeal as people reacted with authenticity?

This is absolutely true, people love it, get hype whenever "George" or "Elaine" uses the absirdly loud microwave, etc.

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