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deoju posted:Speaking of gun noobs, Sam's gun wasn't fully loaded. I have to think that was a deliberate artistic choice rather than an error since kids with guns was adressed earlier in the episode.  At least he's holding the revolver correctly!
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freebooter posted:Really liked the set/costume/general feeling of this one. When America fractures into a Midwestern insurgent civil war in the next 10-20 years I imagine it'll look like this, a real Belfast circa 1980 vibe. 1980s Belfast was grim but not that grim. Compared to a lot of US cities at the time you were statistically less likely to get shot in Belfast.
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deoju posted:Speaking of gun noobs, Sam's gun wasn't fully loaded. I have to think that was a deliberate artistic choice rather than an error since kids with guns was adressed earlier in the episode. Couldn't he just not have that many bullets?
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flashy_mcflash posted:The Last Of Us producers reveal VFX needed to make Calgary look less post-apocalyptic The beaverton hits it real right now and then
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Vintersorg posted:So this weeks discourse is gonna be gun lovers talking about how they would have survived? man I love this thread. it being a zombie show always invites this stuff
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Remy Marathe posted:Joel and Ellie talking it out right after the shootout was the high point for me. Pedro Pascal was effectively conveying at least three things at once, trying do the adult thing and get her to talk irrespective of how bad he was at it, struggling with his own horror at the world kids are growing up in now, and alternating between pride and relief that she saved him and his irritation that she had a secret gun. It was a hell of a scene from both of them and he correctly chose a lesson on the gun instead of a lecture. its also great to see people who have watched poo poo zombie media react to good ones.
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I’m not convinced this show isn’t a comedy and they made ep 3 by mistake. In the first episode their solution to too many cars/people was to drive into the city center and predictably get overrun by cars/people, although that did give us the comedy video game moment of “oh no now the alleyway is blocked somehow, we’ll meet you later at location x” In this last episode their solution to a blocked bridge on the interstate was not to attempt to drive around it but instead to drive straight into downtown Kansas City lmao. This is is after having a discussion about how people are the real danger. Dude is supposed to be a tough, experienced, do-what-it-takes apocalypse survivor? Lol these people are dumber than the walking dead characters. Also they’re going from Boston to the north of Wyoming. What the gently caress are they doing in Kansas City?
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socialsecurity posted:I mean didn't someone get shot and killed onset just recently because they weren't jumping through enough hoops? Point is the chances of getting shot on set by a convincing fake gun are exactly zero, but a small but vocal fraction of the audience will be triggered by the appearance of even a convincing fake.
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ozmunkeh posted:Also they’re going from Boston to the north of Wyoming. What the gently caress are they doing in Kansas City? I mean, the route works and they are staying near population centers so they can stay near enough vehicles to reliably siphon gas.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:I think the AR-15 boom started a little earlier, like in the mid 90s, but regardless, you know who has a lot of 5.56? FEDRA and the military. So even if the boom didn't happen in this universe it would still be the most plentiful ammunition by far, and from episode 1 we know there's a factory in Atlanta that still makes it. does anyone have an emoji of a gun nerd
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And yeah Joel made a bad decision to not go the long way, but you could see why. He didn't want to waste the time and resources, and the other side of the highway was clear. So yeah he made a risky choice which turned out to be the wrong one, but it wasn't done from being stupid. Sometimes people make bad choices.
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deoju posted:Speaking of gun noobs, Sam's gun wasn't fully loaded. I have to think that was a deliberate artistic choice rather than an error since kids with guns was adressed earlier in the episode. I caught that too. The shot is framed in a way that they seemingly want you to see the empty chambers. I suspect it could potentially be a plot point, because Joel would have noticed it wasn't loaded. I can't remember how this encounter went in the game. Either way, we've got some really goddamn good examples as to why gun safety on set needs to be taken seriously, so people that get triggered by that stuff aren't worth engaging.
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Codependent Poster posted:And yeah Joel made a bad decision to not go the long way, but you could see why. He didn't want to waste the time and resources, and the other side of the highway was clear. He also visibly turned around earlier from another route, so maybe his paranoia double crossed him and he took a worse route because he assumed a better one was a site for an ambush. He's not picking routes based purely off minimum travel time.
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withak posted:I will always IIRC after doing some reading after the Baldwin situation they often aren't using gun-shaped props, they're using actual guns that are either modified or just unloaded because it's hard to mimic the weight/feel of a real gun without Basically Just Making a Gun, and it's much cheaper and there's significantly more access to just use existing stuff. And if they do just use props that don't simulate the weight then audiences tend to clock it because it looks like they're running around with toys.
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@ Hollywood having to jump through all those gun-related safety hoops just to keep some portion of their audience from flipping TFO when they see a safe, inert, gun-shaped prop on the screen.
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I'm not familiar with US geography, but looking at a map, Kansas City doesn't make sense. Was one of the writers from there, maybe?
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The incorrect use of guns and ammo is ruining my immersion in this mushroom-zombie show! 
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Could it be because of the time of year? Maybe they're heading through KC to avoid worse weather farther north.
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I hope there's a scene this week of Joel listing off every major US city and specifically why they didn't go to it
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Tommy compiled a list of cities with the best pizza while he was heading west and Kansas City was at the top, hence the detour and Joel's expression when he saw the QZ.
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ShowTime posted:I've known gas goes bad forever, but is it true that you can actually still use some gas? Does it just not work as well over time or does most of it turn to waste, with only a little still salvageable? Hear me out here: plastic guns. - no risk of injury - no training needed - looks as realistic as you want them made - 99% of the people watching won’t notice a difference - 90% of the 1% that do notice won’t care
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People will complain no matter what when it comes to an adaptation. One of the points of the gameplay was extreme scarcity of ammo, melee is often a way better choice for ammo conservation and noise reasons. Add to this the standard video game need to slowly improve your arsenal over the course of the game, and the result is that Joel's main rifle throughout most of the game is a bolt-action hunting rifle. I'm pretty sure you kill or come across people who have semi-autos multiple times without taking one. Give Joel an AR-15 for  realism and people will complain that it loses the feeling of Joel being equipped with basic household weapons, because in media wooden grandpa guns are for regular people and scary black guns are for hardcore operators. Bolt-action visually and aurally emphasizes the 'make every shot count' feeling.But of course, give Joel a basic gun like he has in the game and then it won't make much sense, because it never made sense in the game either. It's interesting which things stand out much more in a different medium though.
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LLSix posted:As someone who lived in Kansas City, it's pretty obvious that they picked Kansas City without knowing much about it. I've never been to Philly, so I can't comment on if the switch makes more or less sense, but in a vacuum it doesn't make much sense. look let's just be glad that there's slightly less gun violence in the post apocalypse
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withak posted:Point is the chances of getting shot on set by a convincing fake gun are exactly zero, but a small but vocal fraction of the audience will be triggered by the appearance of even a convincing fake. This is such an amazing thing to choose to post right now
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frankly anything beyond finger guns and yelling pew pew is unnecessary
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Toaster Beef posted:frankly anything beyond finger guns and yelling pew pew is unnecessary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw7Q4MqmX0g Honestly, I think it is cute, funny and memorable. Also I am sure there is some Extended Universe explanation for it by now. Like 'pew' is some ancient curse in her native language.
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Toaster Beef posted:frankly anything beyond finger guns and yelling pew pew is unnecessary Henry V opens with a speech explaining that they can't afford to actually have horses or a thousand armed knights on stage. (O, for a muse of fire that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention!) For Henry VIII, Shakespeare had actual cannons on stage, and one of them burned down his theatre.
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Toaster Beef posted:frankly anything beyond finger guns and yelling pew pew is unnecessary This reminds me of one of my favorite "gun" fights of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEkybsx2kB8
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https://twitter.com/benjisales/status/1622716443925118989
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Are the Grammy's really competition for dramatic television? lol. Glad it's doing well though.
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The fourth episode was easily the weakest so far. It’s far from the worst Speaking of, just blame it on the interrupted schedule.
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Mantis42 posted:look let's just be glad that there's slightly less gun violence in the post apocalypse Fair and funny.
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Bugblatter posted:Are the Grammy's really competition for dramatic television? lol. Glad it's doing well though. Entertainment industry people wildly overestimate the popularity of awards shows.
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Surprised no one's mentioned yet the extremely video-gamey bits where Ellie had to climb through a small gap to open a bigger door for Joel to get through. I assume that's an actual thing from the game that they included specifically so people who've played it would recognise it. It's not that it's impossible for a situation like that to ever come up, of course, but twice in one episode?Paddyo posted:As long as it's kept clean and dry it will still work. The light ends evaporate away over time so it will just be difficult to start and run like crap. Platystemon posted:The fourth episode was easily the weakest so far.
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The episode was fairly average, really. Nothing to complain or write home about. Watchable though - the landscape scenes were nice (but fleeting), a bunch of character development, as much action as everyone predicted after last episode, and I don't remember this part of the game (if this was even in the game) which makes it a little more interesting. All those dark scenes helped justify my purchase of an OLED TV though so that was good!
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Toaster Beef posted:frankly anything beyond finger guns and yelling pew pew is unnecessary There should just be verbal guns. Where the characters say they have a gun and are going to point it at someone and shoot them. "If I had a gun right now, which I do which is a very fine gun with large bullets, I am going to retrieve that gun and shoot it at you!" "My squad has five guns pointed at you right now, do you think your gunning can gun down all of my team?" "Watch me, or give me the gold, right now!" "Ok, ok, here is the gold!"
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