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BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
As a Sym main, I think she still kinda sucks even with the buff. It's a lot better than before, but It would be nice if they made it so her beam debuffed stacking 1hps incoming reduction per second once it's fully charged, falling off 10 seconds after no beam damage is taken.

It just feels like beam damage isn't calculated correctly so often in this game when you have a fully charged beam and still can't kill stuff with perfect or near perfect tracking. The point of the character is you aren't supposed to let her get fully charged, so the design should punish targets who let her do so more stringently.

I'd be on board with several DPS characters getting extremely miniscule hps reduction debuffs that stack on some of their abilities as a bit of an anti-tank measure in fights that last way too long as a way to take some of the power away from tanks being overtuned.

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Proven
Aug 8, 2007

Lurker

comedyblissoption posted:

in the first 2 clips spilo pointed out his terrible cooldown usage, healer awareness, positioning, and usage of cover that combined led to him feeding like an idiot two times in a row and he's right

it's not a matter of his team loving up leading him into a situation that lost those fights. he was the most singlehandedly responsible individual for those two fights being lost when they were even or won.

comedyblissoption posted:

watching back the first clip, spilo had an eternity to get to cover and stabilize the 5v3 after his first mistake to run out into the open with no good cover rotation and almost die

in the second clip, spilo points out he completely wasted his spin and got basically zero value out of his fortify. he could've easily just used cover and positioning to get his wasted spin cooldown back and have more time for a team regroup before committing since there was plenty of time before the cart hit the end.

I’m not saying he didn’t make big mistakes and fed. I’m thinking on if his team could have won the fight even with that. First case, I think yes, but everyone reacted to Spilo’s mistake poorly (as he said, he baited them, so the fault lies with him). Second case, I think no, but his team being unable to carry him there is due to already starting that fight at a disadvantage.

Another way of putting it, I’m thinking in terms of myself playing DPS and Support and winning fights even if my Tank feeds.

Proven fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Feb 7, 2023

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

You aren't supposed to duel tanks and charged beam kills them without healing no problem.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/overwatch-2-helps-activision-blizzard-rake-in-record-bookings

This is just sad.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021



Misleading, though. Up from what? The quarter where they had nothing going on?

There was a new WoW xpac launch, and OW2 launched after OW was stagnant for years straight. The real indicator will be the next period, wherein there are no new xpacs and OW2 has to compete against it's intake from the previous. The next big boost Blizz should get is D4, around the end of Q2.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

BabyRyoga posted:

Misleading, though. Up from what? The quarter where they had nothing going on?

There was a new WoW xpac launch, and OW2 launched after OW was stagnant for years straight. The real indicator will be the next period, wherein there are no new xpacs and OW2 has to compete against it's intake from the previous. The next big boost Blizz should get is D4, around the end of Q2.

From Actiblizz investor documents

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Jack Trades posted:

From Actiblizz investor documents



Yeah, all of those are givens.

It would be pretty weird if the game that probably was making next to no money for the entirety of 2022 didn't pop off when it got a huge update in October. OW1 was never a big cosmetics seller, it had purchasable lootboxes that weren't a huge draw, so OW2 setting record highs for in-game transactions when they are going strong on the microtransactions (and battle passes) should be another given.

I'm saying, watch how well it does Q1 and Q2 2023 comparatively to the launch for the more important metrics.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Issaries posted:

We got 100hp firestrike, which means we can kill squishies with 2 firestrikes. :blastu:

Rein is going to be a qp/bronze sniper until they inevitably nerf it

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

Inept posted:

Rein is going to be a qp/bronze sniper until they inevitably nerf it

I'm quite looking forward to abusing it until then.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Most of the coins in the battle pass are free. Maybe I'll actually be able to afford a skin for the first time since 2 came out!

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Mega Comrade posted:

Most of the coins in the battle pass are free. Maybe I'll actually be able to afford a skin for the first time since 2 came out!

Just Watch Mute and minimize some streamers like rest of us for skins.

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

Issaries posted:

Just Watch Mute and minimize some streamers like rest of us for skins.

Is it just OWL stuff to stream for coins or are there other streams where you can earn them?

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

I was gonna compliment Blizz for finally fixing this challenge


except the template they're using is broken on other similar challenges


They can't do anything right.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Lol.

I got rewarded for being plat tank.



My actual tank rank was either Gold 2 or 1 last time I played. I'm 100% certain.
Maybe it rewards you based on your hidden MMR?
Also for some reason my DPS shows higher than my Support. It was other way around last time I played.

Also for some reason I am lvl 6 on the new free Battle pass before I start playing?

--

Invi'Cree and Flombra are pretty sweet looking:

Other skins are pretty meh. Probably won't get the battle pass this time.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Feb 7, 2023

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

The Midniter posted:

Is it just OWL stuff to stream for coins or are there other streams where you can earn them?

They are pretty regular on Twitch streams. Watch People play Overwatch on account you have connected to battle.net account and get stuff.
Currently there's a Ashe spray for watching 2 hours and Ashe - Socialite skin (it's from OW1) after claiming the previous reward and watching 4 more hours of streams.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Jack Trades posted:

I want to know the reasoning behind nerfing Symmetra, a character that's been bottom 5 according to basically every pro player.

I bet it's "get hosed lmao".

Symmetra is I believe the single most winning overwatch character since like day 1 because the huge population of bad-mediocre players are completely unable to handle her turrets and so she low-key dominates at gold and below


e: this was 110% the case when her left click autolocked onto people it might be less true now but she’s still definitely top 3 winrates at gold and below

Scrub-Niggurath fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Feb 7, 2023

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
been playing some Ramattra and having a blast any tips?

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Symmetra is I believe the single most winning overwatch character since like day 1 because the huge population of bad-mediocre players are completely unable to handle her turrets and so she low-key dominates at gold and below


e: this was 110% the case when her left click autolocked onto people it might be less true now but she’s still definitely top 3 winrates at gold and below

I used to play her exclusively on offense on Route 66 in competitive (where this was not only the only time I would use her, it was also the only character I would ay on offense on Route 66) And I had a couple of seasons with her around 70-80 percent win rate.

The turrets can be nasty even if you know to shoot them, because your team might not, or they might distract you, plus they slow you, which can itself be a killer if it's in a really nasty area. Widow/Sym team up for maximum toxicity.

Didn't she used to get at least six of those things?

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
The Carwash days

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Putting all six turrets in the left sideroom on Temple of Anubis ftw

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Missed updates:

quote:

SEASON 3 MAP POOLS:
Push
New Queen Street - Morning
Colosseo - Morning (NEW)
Esperança – Morning

Hybrid
Blizzard World - Morning
King’s Row - Evening
Midtown - Morning
Numbani - Morning
Paraíso - Morning

Escort
Dorado - Night
Havana - Night (NEW)
Junkertown - Morning
Circuit royal – Morning (NEW)
Rialto - Morning
Shambali Monastery - Night

Control
Antarctic Peninsula - Night (NEW MAP)
Ilios - Morning
Lijiang Tower - Night
Nepal - Evening
Oasis - Evening

quote:

Endorsements

Players can now endorse the opposing team
All players can now be endorsed in Free-For-All game modes
Huege.

quote:

TANK ROLE PASSIVE
The health totals for all tank heroes will be lower when playing any game mode that does not have a role queue.
Health totals will remain the same for tanks when playing any Role Queue enabled game.
Necessary nerf for open queue. Is mystery heroes affected?

quote:

Ping System Update
Pressing Ability 1 or Ability 2 when the ping wheel is open and when these abilities are on cooldown now prints these cooldowns in chat
Cool


quote:

Mystery Heroes Changes
Mystery heroes now limits each team to a maximum of three of each role.
Uninstalling OW2 right now!

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

verbal enema posted:

been playing some Ramattra and having a blast any tips?

if you have your ult, you can double-dip on the armor bonus from Nemesis form by triggering it regularly, waiting for it to end or ending it manually, and then triggering your ult. If you trigger your ult while Nemesis is still active, it won't give you a new armor bonus (I'm pretty sure)

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

Is the coin grind still capped at 60 per week?

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

That Symm nerf seems fine. She's still great even if she get's occasionally one less ult per match.
Her Ult wins teamfights at my elo as long as you place it to split enemy space.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Dick Jones posted:

Is the coin grind still capped at 60 per week?

Weeklies are exactly same as in Season 2. 60 per week, unless you :homebrew:

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Issaries posted:

TANK ROLE PASSIVE
The health totals for all tank heroes will be lower when playing any game mode that does not have a role queue.
Health totals will remain the same for tanks when playing any Role Queue enabled game.

Tested this on custom games.
Doomfist 450 -> 300
Roadhog 700 -> 550
DVA 650 -> 500
Zarya 475 -> 325

So Blizz just directly reduced max hp by 150 for everyone in any mode that is not a role queue but wait there's a twist:

The Armor and Shield values didn't change at all, so Zarya has only 100 regular hp, rest is shields.

Seems like Mystery Heroes and deathmatch is affected as well.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Zaryatta

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Tank role passives are odd because it's a foray into different queues having different stats which they've avoided in the past, maybe it's to test the waters for a 6v6 comp queue.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

socialsecurity posted:

Tank role passives are odd because it's a foray into different queues having different stats which they've avoided in the past, maybe it's to test the waters for a 6v6 comp queue.

Open queue Meta in OW2 has been 2-3 tanks, 1-2 healers and maybe a single dps as fifth. Having multiple tanks is just plain better than having one.
Tanks have also dominated free-for-all deathmatches with few Reapers and Echoes in the mix.
I Haven't really played the Team deathmatch, but I assume it has been Goats heavy too.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001

socialsecurity posted:

Tank role passives are odd because it's a foray into different queues having different stats which they've avoided in the past, maybe it's to test the waters for a 6v6 comp queue.

I don't like it. I always respected how balanced the roles were before. Overwatch was a better game 6v6, and maybe even open queue. Solving goats with hero balance would have been hard but better for the game.

Arbitrary exceptions are dumb.

SadisTech
Jun 26, 2013

Clem.
First game of Season 3 put me up against a 5 stack on ilios. My tank got 8 elims to their tank's 24 and the only comms from them during the game were "lol im terrible" and "i just want my xp :("

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Has anyone noticed better performance today? I'm getting 240fps more often with my current settings up from around 210-220

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004

mystery heroes and open queue is way more palatable now

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUitirUPx2I

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

Issaries posted:

Weeklies are exactly same as in Season 2. 60 per week, unless you :homebrew:

This is dumb. Blizzard should just shamelessly copy what Rocket League does. Make it possible for players to recoup all the credits spent on the pass if they buy it and stoically grind to the final unlock while resisting the urge to buy cosmetics in the shop (a better value proposition as inverted neon tires don't have as much :3: personality as an OW skin). Player count stays strong year round as many players want to keep the ball rolling and maximize value out of their initial investment. Some won't, but they'll only have themselves to blame and maybe they'll spend again on another pass. Blizzard gets positive word of mouth from YT/Twitch personalities and plenty of whales still succumb to the lure of shop items. Bing bong, so simple.

Play 20 games to earn 500 legacy credits. Repeatable 5 times per season.

Lose within 15 seconds of backfilling into a QP match? You get 10 premium coins.

Queueing for All Roles 50 consecutive times in QP and/or comp earns 50 premium coins. Can only be done twice per season. Queue times potentially improve for tank and DPS, grinders remain engaged with the game, player impressions trend positively. Everyone wins.

SadisTech posted:

First game of Season 3 put me up against a 5 stack on ilios. My tank got 8 elims to their tank's 24 and the only comms from them during the game were "lol im terrible" and "i just want my xp :("

I lucked out on my first game of Season 3 despite it being New Queen Street in QP. My teammates actually waited to regroup. Several players on the other team ragequit after the first and second team fights even though barricade progress was surprisingly equal at that point in the match.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

The currency that's awarded in the battlepass has a yellow icon, the same color as the premium currency, while actually being the legacy currency that's supposed to have the white icon.

What a crazy coinkidink.


Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Feb 8, 2023

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


If I were extremely cynical, I'd suggest that putting legacy credits in the battlepass is a way to devalue legacy skins.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
What even qualifies as a 'legacy' skin. Because there are definitely skins that came out in OW1 that have the premium currency on them.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Mega Comrade posted:

What even qualifies as a 'legacy' skin. Because there are definitely skins that came out in OW1 that have the premium currency on them.

Really? I thought they said all the OW1 skins (except some special events) were available using legacy credits as of the latest season.

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Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Really? I thought they said all the OW1 skins (except some special events) were available using legacy credits as of the latest season.

Edit: OW1 year-round skins are purchasable with legacy credits but virtually all event skins are locked behind the OW2 coins. Tulum Sombra , Warlock Ashe, and Tropical Baptiste are just a few examples. Wandering Monk Ramattra was purchasable with legacy credits last week but is now only obtainable with OW2 coins.

Dick Jones fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Feb 8, 2023

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