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Look I might have posted in the complete wrong thread but I still want an answer, the devs promised me it would lead to unlocking crafting  .
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Does covering fire give the Vet toughness or only alies? I do a lot of 'melee range' shooting with my autogun and getting 10% toughness per headsplat sounds nice.
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Mr E posted:Is there a best strategy to break into adamantine spires? The one I'm looking to break into is in the magma sea so I'll either have to build a floor over to it or dig down from above. I know I can use fortifications to peek in, but is there a best way to dig from above if I don't have access to glass? Just assume I'm gonna lose a dwarf or two? I asked chatgpt and it said this: In Dwarf Fortress, breaking into an adamantine spire can be a challenging task, especially if it's located in a magma sea. Here are some tips for both approaches: Building a floor over to it: Use a bridge or a drawbridge to cross the magma sea and reach the spire. Build fortifications around the spire to protect your dwarves from hostile creatures and magma. Use pickaxes or other mining tools to dig through the adamantine walls. Digging down from above: Build fortifications around the spire to protect your dwarves from falling into the magma sea. Create a staircase leading down to the spire, or dig a tunnel directly towards it. Use pickaxes or other mining tools to dig through the adamantine walls. In either approach, it's advisable to use fortifications to keep your dwarves safe and to take your time, as mining through adamantine walls is a slow process.
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https://i.imgur.com/nO7fym5.mp4 Solid game
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ijyt posted:Yeah I don't understand the concept of nerfing a non-competitive game. It's to balance the average player experience with the various difficulties, so that a baseline might be expected at certain difficulties with a certain level of performance. Especially now that the game allows you have multiples of the same class. Things that are Too Good(TM) compared to other choices might end up trivializing difficult content and it creates a scenario where people at higher levels might have a worse experience overall. Obviously there are the balance reasons, too, but if 2 of the three Feat options at a certain tier are balanced just fine, but 1 is an obvious pick above the others, it's probably better to nerf the one than it is to buff the other two if it would mean the class is already otherwise in a good place. Like the bleed build was interesting an absurdly powerful, and with the nerfs it's interesting and normal powerful. Like obviously 50% damage reduction will end up being a lot less than 75%, but in a class that is built around killing lots of poo poo in melee (conceptually), it's still extremely good when paired with the normal toughness regen of melee kills, not even considering things like Blessings.
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The problem comes with nerfing "the one good feat" that was picked largely because it was the one feat in the line that didn't have a major bug with it.
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Jerkface posted:Now with zealot, who is going to be in melee often, you had massive DR on toughness which is now 30% worse or passive regen while in a horde. I run the latter because it helps to top off during big scrums so I take less chip damage, and obviously crit zealot was good with the DR. Is getting 3.25% more toughness on kill worth a whole feat? You get 5% back per second (and it ticks a little faster actually) with the crowd one and still having 50% DR is pretty huge. I've settled in on the passive regen in a horde, too. If I'm fighting and in my groove, I'm going to be at max toughness because every swing of my hammer is guaranteeing that nothing is hitting me while also killing things. A slight increase to toughness on kills will make no difference. The hammer is too slow for uptime on the crit damage reduction to be reliable. The passive regen is an extra stream of additional survivability that's pretty much on during the most dangerous times. If I'm shoving to try and position myself or charging the hammer for a single target strike on a rager in a mob, it's keeping me topped up. If I'm blocking, I've still got that toughness coming in. If I'm staggered or pulling out a grenade to stun a horde so I can revive a teammate, I've still got that toughness coming in. I feel like the real dilemma is the level 20 feat. Thy Wrath Be Swift and Holy Revenant are just both so insanely good.
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Just ran a heresy mission with pubbies. All 4 of us were Psykers, 3 of us with a Voidstruke staff. It turns out with enough AOE ranged damage and multiple simultaneous brain bursts, you can absolutely breeze through anything the game throws at you. It ruled. Even the assassination target went down in less than a minute, which is not what any of us were expecting.
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Feb 8, 2023 03:53
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Ogryn buffs are really good The kickback hits like a truck now
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Tagichatn posted:I asked chatgpt and it said this: Thank you this is almost accurate.
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Feb 8, 2023 04:50
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It’s infuriating how inconsistent the dodge or block is with mutants and dogs. One time it works great, the next it straight up doesn’t register.
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celewign posted:It’s infuriating how inconsistent the dodge or block is with mutants and dogs. One time it works great, the next it straight up doesn’t register. Dogs can't be blocked, but they can be pushed mid-leap to stop the attack. Muties can't be blocked or pushed, as far as I'm aware.
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psyker force sword does surprisingly well vs the boss shield. it seems to get around the damage cap by draining hp instead of taking it off in 1 go edit: the dog thing comes down to what server youve connected to, i can push dogs or knock them out midair all day if the server is good
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DarkDobe posted:Does covering fire give the Vet toughness or only alies? My understanding is that it's only allies. "Grants Toughness if allies are within 5m of the target." Edit: looking at this guide (which might be out of date) that feat currently does not function. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402 Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Feb 8, 2023 |
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Has anyone confirmed that Covering Fire is fixed now? It would be extremely Fatshark for them to massively buff something that’s still non-functional
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Tested out the chainaxe on Zealot in Heresy with some goons, it's waaay better now and can be used against hordes and single target well. The moveset changes are really good and it now has a good Push Attack -> Heavy Attack -> repeat combo like the Eviscerator does. Way more viable in hordes and with +Power on Hit and +Power on Kill you can do great damage.
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raverrn posted:Dogs can't be blocked, but they can be pushed mid-leap to stop the attack. Muties can't be blocked or pushed, as far as I'm aware. I once managed to bonk a mutant with my thunder hammer as it charged and one shot it. Now everytime I get the chance I chase that high and refuse to yield
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Legit Businessman posted:My understanding is that it's only allies. Magitek posted:Has anyone confirmed that Covering Fire is fixed now? It would be extremely Fatshark for them to massively buff something that’s still non-functional While I haven't tested it allegedly a patch or so ago it was part of the bug fixes, so yes it should function. Also yes, that guide is out of date now.
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There have been 2 major patches designed to address not working feats and stuff since that list was created, it needs to be updated
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The absolute mad lads did it. The Kickback actually feels good to use now.  
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gimme a double barrel skin for the kickback. i will always rock a super shotgun
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Edmond Dantes posted:The absolute mad lads did it. It always felt good to use. It's just the physical results didn't match up to that.
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mexi posted:I once managed to bonk a mutant with my thunder hammer as it charged and one shot it. Now everytime I get the chance I chase that high and refuse to yield Dodge left and swing heavy it works every time. And yes, kickback good now.
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Feb 9, 2023 18:04
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Im glad they buffed the kickback it was really fun to use in the low levels when I was leveling ogryn but quickly became useless. Who doesnt love a gigantic scattergun? We should be getting communication today or tomorrow on the crafting update...
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Crafting update is out, eat your weapons to re-bless other weapons with their blessings: https://www.playdarktide.com/news/deep-dive-into-the-shrine Also of note: quote:We have implemented a cost scaling system that will change the total material costs required depending on the weapons item rating, for all actions at the Shrine of the Omnissiah
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A lot of good changes there;quote:The Emperor’s Gift, which was occasionally received upon successful mission completion, will now be granted upon every mission completion without any limit by time, as was previously the case. In addition, the Emperor’s Gift will be influenced by several factors: The difficulty of the chosen mission and the conditions and side missions completed. Both factors will improve the chances of receiving an item with higher potential.
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Hopefully it's coming soonish. Like two-three weeks. These new changes are dope. Now I can just throw my ducats at a button to roll instead of waiting an hour to maybe get one. And Melkbux miiiiiight be less painful now? Though this does leave me wondering: are the drop rates for Plasteel gonna be buffed? That's still a hell of a bottleneck afair
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explosivo posted:A lot of good changes there;
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Insert name here posted:This is a good change but I question why there was a limit in the first place lol Yeah dumb as gently caress but hey, that might actually get me to log back in for a bit.
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There's good and bad, mostly good, but we would be remiss to completely ignore the bad. The good: - Make base-quality weapons of anything you have unlocked. Hopefully not prohibitively expensive - Emperor's Gift every game, with item quality improved by mission difficulty and modifiers - Better-quality gear in the hourly store and Melk's - Melk missions made easier, and give more rewards - Permanently unlock blessings for crafting by sacrificing the gun, apparently they were considering a much more limited implementation The bad-or-at-least-worrying: quote:How will crafting change from Vermintide to Darktide? In Vermintide crafting was focused around creating, salvaging, and modifying items obtained through reward chests and through the crafting of blueprints. There are some similarities between the two games with the modification options, yet Darktide will carve its own path when it comes to crafting. Instead it is centred around modifying weapons rather than weapon creation, and will have a heavier focus on acquiring exciting items of different potential through many sources in the game. "Different potential" sounds like a dishonestly positive way of framing stat variance. It makes it sound like your gun with half the possible damage roll is still worthwhile, and simply has "different potential". The gun's potential is different, because it is worse. In practice, I think most guns will have one or two optimal distributions, and the rest are just trash fodder to gum up your drops and make it take longer to get what you actually want. That's fine in a Diablo game where you're getting several drops a minute. Not great here. Receiving an Emperor's Gift after every match is a great change that will help mitigate this, along with finally being able to get grey-quality items from the store, but I would prefer there to not be an arbitrary speed bump requiring any mitigation efforts at all. I am hopeful that it won't feel bad. quote:The foundation we set with Modifiers, Perks, and Blessings changes how each weapon can potentially perform. The combination of these offers an exciting array of variety, and we want players to continue acquiring many variations in pursuit of interesting build diversity. This build potential exists today This theoretical "build diversity" isn't currently present in the game. Most classes still have a "correct" perk choice at each tier, especially in tiers where perks don't work at all, or if you play a class other than veteran that is somehow getting perks nerfed. Diversity is non-zero, but I think they are making it sound like you have wayyyy more leeway for effectiveness than you actually do in picking your weapons and perks. I'll probably hop in for a few matches but despite the length of the dev post, these changes are fairly small, and are ALL only about items, which are only a portion of the game's problems. Even if we learn that these changes are all that are needed to make itemization feel good, there's still a lot of work to do to bring the game up to v1.0 worthiness, IMO.
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They're gonna be updating on other changes coming as well next week. The big thing is that all these item/crafting changes are coming *NEXT PATCH* - and getting this poo poo out of the way was key to them being able to start bringing back the other stuff they've backburnered for the time being. Personally this update bangs and it is exactly what was needed. Would I like it if they didnt have the dumb lock perk/blessing business? Yea, but it sounds like theres actually going to be an identifiable gameplay loop now for getting new gear, so thats great.
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big cummers ONLY posted:"Different potential" sounds like a dishonestly positive way of framing stat variance. It makes it sound like your gun with half the possible damage roll is still worthwhile, and simply has "different potential". The gun's potential is different, because it is worse. In practice, I think most guns will have one or two optimal distributions, and the rest are just trash fodder to gum up your drops and make it take longer to get what you actually want. e: Or they make 5 different stats that all boil down to "it does a bit more damage" said in slightly different ways and then scoff when we don't care about the distinction
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I think there is some merit to stats modifying the way damage is dealt as it can cause a weapon to lean more into a specific playstyle niche, but it can absolutely be done poorly and it sucks when it is. Excited for the changes, glad they went with what they did for blessings. It's a system that was done in Outriders and works really well imo, was one of the better things about that game.
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40 Proof Listerine posted:Crafting update is out, eat your weapons to re-bless other weapons with their blessings: this is absolutely better, especially if they increase crafting material drops a bit and make plasteel drop at higher quantities in higher difficulties so we don't run into the green dust-problem. they should also let us purchase crafting materials for melkbucks tbh? would be good yeah?
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Evil Kit posted:Excited for the changes, glad they went with what they did for blessings. It's a system that was done in Outriders and works really well imo, was one of the better things about that game. D3 did something similar and I think it's good, another way to "progress" while also giving you a big checklist of things to find. And having to keep multiple copies of every blessing just so you always have something to scrap would have been tiresome. A good implementation, but I'm worried the itemization problems won't be solved by these changes. Hopefully they are! I don't think I'll be sure until we've sat with the changes for a couple weeks.
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big cummers ONLY posted:"Different potential" sounds like a dishonestly positive way of framing stat variance. It makes it sound like your gun with half the possible damage roll is still worthwhile, and simply has "different potential". The gun's potential is different, because it is worse. In practice, I think most guns will have one or two optimal distributions, and the rest are just trash fodder to gum up your drops and make it take longer to get what you actually want. That's fine in a Diablo game where you're getting several drops a minute. Not great here. Receiving an Emperor's Gift after every match is a great change that will help mitigate this, along with finally being able to get grey-quality items from the store, but I would prefer there to not be an arbitrary speed bump requiring any mitigation efforts at all. I am hopeful that it won't feel bad. Calling them trash isn't a good way of looking at it imo. There's plenty of players clearing damnation all the time with 'trash' weapons, all you need is good enough which sounds like it'll be easy enough to get. One locked blessing still sucks but we'll see how easy it'll be to get new weapons. I imagine the next dev blog will be about balance and new content, looking forward to that.
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big cummers ONLY posted:D3 did something similar and I think it's good, another way to "progress" while also giving you a big checklist of things to find. And having to keep multiple copies of every blessing just so you always have something to scrap would have been tiresome. The changes so far show that they are more receptive to feedback then I had thought they would be so I think there will be iterations to loot progression still to come as the new system settles in, I'm actually pretty optimistic for a change!
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Only needing "good enough" doesn't change the fact that some guns just straight up aren't good enough, and never will be, making them trash. Low rolls in the most relevant stats usually can't be fixed, and if you can mitigate the low rolls, a higher-rolled item with the same mitigation measures will always be superior. Its fine that these trash items exist, but my beef is with calling this variance "differing potential" as if even the worst guns are on an even playing field if used in the right circumstance. That feels disingenuous to me
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