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brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

what is a post but an unsolicited opinion

# ? Feb 10, 2023 09:50

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# ? May 24, 2024 17:09

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

God asks me to post everyday

# ? Feb 10, 2023 10:03

Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

that�s just capitalism induced mental illness

# ? Feb 10, 2023 10:50

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Biplane posted:

My employment contract when I worked for Disney (in a completely non-creative way) had a large section in it about how any and all "works" I might create while employed by Disney would be the full property of my employer. LOL

How in any way could this be legal? Other than the obvious because it's the US

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:21

grah: Jul 26, 2007; brainsss

It probably isn't. Employment contracts are full of umenforceable terms and are written so that those terms are severable and don't cancel the whole contract.

It's there to intimidate you into not doing things you're allowed to do, or force you into a court or arbitration fight to assert your theoretical rights.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:36

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

I mean in the case of programmers I'm pretty sure it's absolutely been upheld in court in a few states so uh good luck with that.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:40

Professor Shark: May 22, 2012

I�ve always wondered if that meant stuff you worked on at work or if the stuff you work on at home in your garage counted too

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:47

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

ArmZ posted:

how the gently caress is ip stealing even real

You should check out microchip history, how one US company dominates it (ASML), while China has always years behind due to how ASML protects itself from China trying to steal it (and internal chinese corruption loving themselves over).

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:51

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

happyhippy posted:

I agree with this, though up it to 45 mins and only for kids.
The nearest McDonalds is a major attractor for kids, cheapest fast food in the area.
And some times of the day its a nightmare with dozens of them running inside and out, just hanging around, not buying anything.

It doesn't matter. It's only enforced selectively anyway.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:55

oscarthewilde: May 16, 2012; I would often go there
To the tiny church there

happyhippy posted:

You should check out microchip history, how one US company dominates it (ASML), while China has always years behind due to how ASML protects itself from China trying to steal it (and internal chinese corruption loving themselves over).

asml is dutch tho

# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:56

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

The Mouse should take full responsibility for its insignificant vassal. IP, crimes, childrearing et all.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 13:19

Paladinus: Jan 11, 2014; heyHEYYYY!!!

Shame Boy posted:

I mean in the case of programmers I'm pretty sure it's absolutely been upheld in court in a few states so uh good luck with that.

From my experience, with software developers, contracts only cover whatever they create during working hours and/or using company resources. It can be interpreted very broadly, though. So if you check your messenger while getting coffee at work on your office wifi, and it's your mate writing you about the app you two were working on as a side project, you might lose the app should your company find out. Most companies don't really care to enforce this, unless you've been working for a direct competitor or your app starts making ludicrous amounts of money. Or your boss is the pettiest motherfucker alive, which also happens.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 14:19

Zvahl: Oct 14, 2005; научный кот

there was that whole tantrum blizzard threw when they released their warcraft 3 remaster about how anything you made in their engine was theirs forever original creation do not steal tmtmtm

because they were mad they weren't allowed to steal dota lmao

# ? Feb 10, 2023 14:22

cat botherer: Jan 6, 2022; I am interested in most phases of data processing.

happyhippy posted:

You should check out microchip history, how one US company dominates it (ASML), while China has always years behind due to how ASML protects itself from China trying to steal it (and internal chinese corruption loving themselves over).

gb2dnd

# ? Feb 10, 2023 14:50

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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cat botherer posted:

gb2dnd

# ? Feb 10, 2023 17:57

HashtagGirlboss: Jan 4, 2005

tokin opposition posted:

Thank you for your unsolicited and stupid opinion on the famous woman op.

It�s a good and well stated opinion sorry if your fav got called out I�m sure she will find some comfort in her money if she ever sees this

# ? Feb 10, 2023 18:03

Coolness Averted: Feb 20, 2007; oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

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Professor Shark posted:

I’ve always wondered if that meant stuff you worked on at work or if the stuff you work on at home in your garage counted too

Both count, since you can't prove you didn't think up an idea at work, withhold it from your employer and then make it yourself.

It was also enforced against the creator of Bratz, though in their case they had the idea, pitched it and their company wasn't interested, and then pitched it somewhere else, and when it took off the previous toy company sued to try and claw back revenue on the idea they passed on.

The further your idea or creation is from your job's field or responsibilities the better.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 18:17

BonHair: Apr 28, 2007

The draft version of my current contract, which was very obviously just a template from somewhere, included very broad wording that anything I would create while employed there was the property of the company. I brought it up with the CEO who was hiring me and said that according to this, if I write a lovely song, you own it, and that kinda seems dumb. Luckily he agreed that it was dumb and he just deleted the section entirely, but the fact that it was there in a standard contract is kinda iffy. And this was in Denmark for loving consulting, you can bet your rear end I'll reuse everything in my next job with the serial number filed off.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:14

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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I have an idea to create transgender chickens to improve egg yields anyone know a good patent lawyer

# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:15

BonHair: Apr 28, 2007

tokin opposition posted:

I have an idea to create transgender chickens to improve egg yields anyone know a good patent lawyer

Your idea has to in some way improve on the current solution, which is to just kill all males

# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:20

Evilreaver: Feb 26, 2007; GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!; Dinosaur Gum

BonHair posted:

Your idea has to in some way improve on the current solution, which is to just kill all males

Trans the cocks

# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:24

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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BonHair posted:

Your idea has to in some way improve on the current solution, which is to just kill all males

1. Inject all xx eggs with chicken testosterone
2. Grow roosters with xx chromosomes
3. All eggs they fertilized will be xx
4. xy chickens no longer exist

# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:27

BonHair: Apr 28, 2007

tokin opposition posted:

1. Inject all xx eggs with chicken testosterone
2. Grow roosters with xx chromosomes
3. All eggs they fertilized will be xx
4. xy chickens no longer exist

Now we're talking, wanna go into business? I can do PowerPoints, you do the thinking and working parts. Obviously I get 70%

# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:32

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

the lion king should be given the french treatment. no more monarchy!

# ? Feb 10, 2023 21:13

Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

tokin opposition posted:

1. Inject all xx eggs with chicken testosterone
2. Grow roosters with xx chromosomes
3. All eggs they fertilized will be xx
4. xy chickens no longer exist

now the race to patent is on

# ? Feb 10, 2023 21:36

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

BonHair posted:

Now we're talking, wanna go into business? I can do PowerPoints, you do the thinking and working parts. Obviously I get 70%

Antonymous posted:

now the race to patent is on

a startup is already doing this. there's a Clinton involved :abuela:

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But what if those male chicks could instead hatch out as functional females, able to grow into egg-laying birds? That�s the vision of Israeli startup Soos Technology. Founded in 2017, the company, which has received $3.3m in investment and prize winnings wants to make commercial hatcheries kinder and more economic by changing the effective sex of poultry embryos as they develop.

Its technology exposes eggs to sound vibrations which, it says, alters the gene expression in developing male embryos, so rather than testes, an ovary forms instead (birds have only one). The company says its experiments are currently producing batches of chicks where 60% are observably female and it expects this to increase. �We are changing the sex of the chicken to dramatically decrease male chicks culled,� says Yael Alter, Soos�s CEO. Even if all male chicks aren�t converted, it could still make a difference. The company is currently piloting its technology at a commercial egg farm in Israel and has other pilots lined up with an Italian and a US egg producer.

Other startups are also working to solve the male chick problem. But they are focused on detecting egg sex prior to hatching, so the male eggs can be removed from incubators and disposed of earlier. Techniques include sampling the egg fluid and optical technologies to see inside. Hatcheries are looking to these as some European governments are trying to put an end to killing male chicks � including France by the end of 2021. Alter says Soos�s technology transforms eggs, so they don�t need disposal.

The idea that sound could be used to change the functional sex of chickens might seem far-fetched. But another external environmental factor, temperature, determines sex in many reptiles and some fish � though this does not apply in birds. And there is science that indicates gene expression can be influenced by sound. It was recently shown at when some types of cultured mouse cell were bombarded with sound emissions, genes involved in bone formation and wound healing were suppressed. �It is not yet widely accepted, but sound can be a biostimulation source at cellular level that triggers gene responses,� says Masahiro Kumeta, a researcher at Kyoto University in Japan pioneering this work.

If DMRT1 is suppressed in male embryos, it shrivels one testis and allows the other to develop as an ovary.

Alter is vague about how her co-founder, Nashat Haj Mohammad, stumbled on to sound. He found eggs laid in certain areas of his family�s small free-range chicken farm seemed to yield more female chicks.

Soos uses speakers to transmit sound to the eggs in the first 13 days of incubation, converting a standard commercial egg incubator into an acoustic one to do so. It is a loud continuous beeping noise audible to the human ear that plays several hours a day. Most important are the frequency and volume, and other factors such as temperature and humidity are controlled, explains Alter, adding that Soos is seeking patents for the method.

Alter says Soos has treated batches of thousands of eggs at a time and �over and over� achieved a 60%-plus female skew that has risen to 70% in some areas of the incubator. Calculations are based on visually sexing the chicks that hatch and retaining those determined to be female. Their DNA is then randomly sampled, finding the presence of some genetic males. Mostly the chicks aren�t kept more than 30 days, but 1,500 chicks, determined by sexing to be female, were grown two years � long enough to lay eggs. The genetic males appeared to lay at the same rate � the group didn�t produce fewer eggs overall than would be expected � and the treatment didn�t do any harm in other ways.

Soos speculates that sound suppresses the expression of the DMRT1 gene � widely accepted to be responsible for sex development in poultry. Like humans, birds carry a pair of inherited sex chromosomes that determine their genetic sex. But in the avian system, ZZ is male and ZW is female. A gene on the Z chromosome, DMRT1, regulates gonad development. The double dose in male embryos leads to testis formation while the single dose in female embryos leads to ovary formation. However, if DMRT1 is suppressed in male embryos, it shrivels one testis and allows the other to develop as an ovary. �You can change the phenotype in birds,� says Alter, though she adds that Soos doesn�t know exactly how the sound achieves it.

Developmental biologists studying chickens find it surprising that Soos�s �reversed� birds would look female and lay eggs, however. Research shows you can�t just manipulate DMRT1 in chickens and get a perfect female, according to Mike Clinton at the University of Edinburgh�s Roslin Institute and Craig Smith of Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.

First, they note that a genetically male bird transformed by reducing DMRT1 so it developed an ovary would still look like a male bird: with more muscle, male feather patterns and bigger wattles and spurs. That is because birds seem to be less influenced by gonadal hormones, which in mammals masculinise or feminise the body after testes or ovaries have formed. Chicken cells have been shown to �know� innately whether they are genetically male or female, independently of hormones. �You can get males that have ovaries after modulating DMRT1, but the rest of the bird is still male,� Smith explains.

Second, a recent study by Clinton, not yet published, demonstrates that genetically male birds whose sex is �reversed� after reducing DMRT1 when they are embryos do not lay eggs. �We think the male brain does not provide the appropriate https://www.soos.org.il
to the ovary,� says Clinton.
Eggs being hatched inside an incubator at an agricultural fair in Paris. France is to ban the slaughter of male chicks from the end of this year. Photograph: Joel Saget/AFP via Getty Images

Kristen Navara, a poultry scientist at the University of Georgia in the US notes a 60% skew could happen by chance depending on sample size. �The company needs studies that are peer reviewed,� she says.

Soos acknowledges more testing is needed. �We are working towards publishing,� says Rotem Kadir, Soos�s scientific director. He notes that while the DMRT1 gene is the prime candidate for how the sound has an effect, it isn�t certain. �There could be other genes,� he says.

Soos is planning experiments in chicken cell cultures this year to try and elucidate the mechanism of the effect. But the focus at the moment is on increasing the number of females in each hatching cycle by developing a system to improve how sound is transmitted in the incubator, so each individual egg �hears� it at the same, optimal volume.

https://www.soos.org.il

mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 22:05 on Feb 10, 2023

# ? Feb 10, 2023 21:59

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

First the frogs, now the chickens :getin:

# ? Feb 10, 2023 22:20

Lemony: Jul 27, 2010; Now With Fresh Citrus Scent!

Antonymous posted:

I think the law defaults to musicians retaining rights of any recording of their music, live performance or session, sharing the rights with other performers recorded, but you can always sign those away to get into the room. Even though what I do defaults to work for hire I still sign one which is like a half page that says when the work was done and that I agree I was work for hire.

I also think the AFM has some protection on the visual recording of a life performance b/c I've done two documentaries where an orchestra was present and I wasn't allowed to film them in any capacity while performing, video or sound. might just be something they told my producer idk

I've worked for a theatre and I know that there were strict rules on recording, or taking pictures, of the performers. My understanding is that the individual performers owned all rights to their likeness and performance, so any recording had to be by explicit contractual agreement. It wasn't something that was simply included by default in your contract to perform the role. I got the impression that this was a standard industry thing.

People were occasionally huge dicks about this when the ushers would stop them from taking pictures during the show. At least making them delete any photos was a lot easier with digital cameras. I was told that, in the past, they used to have to confiscate rolls of film when that happened. Understandably, people didn't like this when they lost an entire roll of vacation photos. There were signs plastered everywhere about not taking pictures though, plus pre-show announcements.

I figure management wouldn't make a point of enforcing those rules so strongly unless they absolutely had to. Mind you, this was a big enough theatre that the cast/pit orchestra were all equity/union. I imagine that things are very different in smaller/less professional venues.

# ? Feb 10, 2023 22:22

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Failed Imagineer posted:

God asks me to post everyday

I granted myself permission to post and in so doing have achieved enlightenment

# ? Feb 10, 2023 22:22

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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mawarannahr posted:

a startup is already doing this. there's a Clinton involved

https://www.soos.org.il

chicken transphobia must not stand

# ? Feb 10, 2023 22:46

The Chairman: Jun 30, 2003; But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun

Antonymous posted:

I think the law defaults to musicians retaining rights of any recording of their music, live performance or session, sharing the rights with other performers recorded, but you can always sign those away to get into the room. Even though what I do defaults to work for hire I still sign one which is like a half page that says when the work was done and that I agree I was work for hire.

I also think the AFM has some protection on the visual recording of a life performance b/c I've done two documentaries where an orchestra was present and I wasn't allowed to film them in any capacity while performing, video or sound. might just be something they told my producer idk

yeah, synchronization rights (the rights to make a video recording of a performance) are separate and often much more expensive than performance rights -- it's a major issue in the corner of the performing arts world I'm in, because outside of particular composers or bands that are protective of their work, it's relatively cheap to get permission to arrange a song from them and perform it at a competition, but getting the synchro rights or the new media rights to stream it online costs an arm and a leg so it's exorbitantly expensive or just plain impossible to preserve the performance to watch later

# ? Feb 10, 2023 22:50

Harik: Sep 9, 2001; From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars; Plaster Town Cop

BonHair posted:

Now we're talking, wanna go into business? I can do PowerPoints, you do the thinking and working parts. Obviously I get 70%

you were trying to make it look bad but the shitheaded MBA taking only 70% is a better deal than nearly anybody gets

# ? Feb 10, 2023 22:57

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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since chickens don't use testosterone I guess we have to just move on to humans instead, i'll take the 30% and limited liability

# ? Feb 10, 2023 23:27

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Well, maybe your low-T soy cocks don't :rolleyes:

# ? Feb 11, 2023 00:04

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

Sounds clever, but male chickens have ZZ chromosomes and females have ZW chromosomes, so you can't make an XX rooster.

# ? Feb 11, 2023 02:32

SideEffectShit: Oct 10, 2022; by Pragmatica

brap posted:

what is a post but an unsolicited opinion

what is a post but a demand

# ? Feb 11, 2023 03:19

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Chamale posted:

Sounds clever, but male chickens have ZZ chromosomes and females have ZW chromosomes, so you can't make an XX rooster.

We're in the third round of funding and I have ten billion dollars now

# ? Feb 11, 2023 03:33

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Zvahl posted:

there was that whole tantrum blizzard threw when they released their warcraft 3 remaster about how anything you made in their engine was theirs forever original creation do not steal tmtmtm

because they were mad they weren't allowed to steal dota lmao

It's a great way to kneecap your entire UMS scene which was a significant part of the reason war3 was beloved in the first place!

# ? Feb 11, 2023 03:46

Teriyaki Hairpiece: Dec 29, 2006; I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

I want to be the softest low-t boy so all I eat is rice and boiled chicken and I always jack off before stressful life events instead of holding back my essence

# ? Feb 11, 2023 03:47

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# ? May 24, 2024 17:09

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I want to be the softest low-t boy so all I eat is rice and boiled chicken and I always jack off before stressful life events instead of holding back my essence

egg says what

# ? Feb 11, 2023 03:56

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