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Rental Sting posted:I know Carlin is mostly despised, here, but he spins a good yarn and I find his dumb boomer analogies endearing. Do we need more Viking poo poo, though? Is anyone asking for it? Its the best episode in 5 years (5 episodes)
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COPE 27 posted:Its the best episode in 5 years (5 episodes) Good to know!
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COPE 27 posted:Its the best episode in 5 years (5 episodes) I just finished it, came to the thread to say this. I stopped listening... somewhere in the Supernova in the East, and it seems like maybe he learned some lessons there? It actually stayed mostly on topic. There weren't too many lengthy parenthetical tangents or bits of strangeness. The analogies (which I don't personally mind all that much) were pretty reasonable. And it was informative and entertaining. My girlfriend caught a few minutes and was instantly interested, despite not being into history at all. I'd say if you liked Thor's Angels this is very much worth your while.
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Has anyone listened to Hell on Earth by the Chapo guys? The topic seems interesting but their main podcast hasn’t been good since before the pandemic so I’m hesitant to give it a try.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Has anyone listened to Hell on Earth by the Chapo guys? The topic seems interesting but their main podcast hasn’t been good since before the pandemic so I’m hesitant to give it a try. They put the first episode up on their public Soundcloud, I liked it.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Has anyone listened to Hell on Earth by the Chapo guys? The topic seems interesting but their main podcast hasn’t been good since before the pandemic so I’m hesitant to give it a try. It's pretty stilted with clear 'two guys awkwardly reading alternating paragraphs from their term paper' parts. I decided it wasn't my thing, but as much because I feel like a little bit of Matt goes a long way as anything.
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Feb 10, 2023 20:57
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Back when I used to listen Matt's understanding of history was thin, to put it generously, so him doing a history podcast sounds like a disaster.
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I think it’s going well. Nothing innovative, they stick very close to Wedgwood, but it’s fluffy and most of the jokes land. Less grating than Carlin or your standard History Bros pod, at least
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feedmyleg posted:I adored it, but I'm worried about how much I'll be into it moving forward. The prehistory and Bronze Age subject matter was so fascinating to me that I worry it's going to feel a bit more "names and dates" moving forward. How was the first Iron Age episode? I opened this thread to see whether I should resubscribe. I fell out after a few too many episodes about Levantine Bronze Age empires that just all ran together. Akkadians, Assyrians, Mitannis, Elamites, Amorites, Hittites... they all just seemed like this: 'ok this group cornered the trade in tin and copper and then raised an army of chariots and built some temples and made a bunch of clay tablets, then another group came in and did the same, then another, then another... boy, I bet they wish they had SimpliSafe." I think it's a matter of there just not being enough richness in the material for him to evoke life in each of those empires or any essential differences between each of them. Ok I talked myself into it.
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I just started the new season of Tides, but yeah I think that concern about the season, and perspective on the back half of last season, is pretty fair. For me the paleohistory stuff was way more interesting than the Bronze Age stuff, but maybe introducing more actual records will liven things up a bit as it moves into the Iron Age. Obviously this season isn't all about Rome, but with how much he was able to flesh out the history of the late Roman Empire in his first podcast, covering a lot of stuff Duncan wasn't really equipped to get into, I'm interested to see if he can find something new to bring to the picture of the early Roman era.
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Speaking of early Rome, ACOUP namedropped The Partial Historians which seems to be a podcast run by a couple of academics about exclusively that. Anyone listened to it before?
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I'm enjoying the new Tides material but I feel like it's barely a distinct season and more just a straight-up continuation of what he was examining at the end of the previous season.Koramei posted:Speaking of early Rome, ACOUP namedropped The Partial Historians which seems to be a podcast run by a couple of academics about exclusively that. Anyone listened to it before? I haven't, but I'm quoting this post so that I can find the name later because I saw that too and was like "hm I should check that out."
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CommonShore posted:I'm enjoying the new Tides material but I feel like it's barely a distinct season and more just a straight-up continuation of what he was examining at the end of the previous season Yeah I'm not sure why he's presenting this as a separate season. Probably some Wondery fuckery?
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah I'm not sure why he's presenting this as a separate season. Probably some Wondery fuckery? It may be pretty similar to the Bronze Age stuff from last season, but a single season covering everything from prehistory to the end of the first century BC would be pretty weird.
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They're called seasons but they're more like arcs. Tides started off about the middle ages, sort of continuing where The Fall of Rome left off. Then the prehistory "season" began. It sounds wrong since they take years to complete.
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:It may be pretty similar to the Bronze Age stuff from last season, but a single season covering everything from prehistory to the end of the first century BC would be pretty weird. That would be weird, though I feel a better place to break it would be the advent of writing and the beginnings of non-pre history.
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah I'm not sure why he's presenting this as a separate season. Probably some Wondery fuckery? I think it's this. They put older episodes behind paywalls and I think that they were hesitant to put anything from a "current" season onto the prime membership.
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Feb 15, 2023 16:27
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Has he said if he's using all this material to write another book yet? I assume he's at least shopping one around.
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:Has he said if he's using all this material to write another book yet? I assume he's at least shopping one around. Yeah I'm pretty sure he posted on twitter that he's doing a pre-history (or maybe up to bronze age collapse?) book next.
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Feb 15, 2023 21:01
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This is the first post I could find about it https://twitter.com/Patrick_Wyman/status/1605969890711519233?t=YoF9j2vzrPRfEakMlsJ0pg&s=19
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Cool, thanks. I hope it's mostly focused on the prehistory stuff, because imo it was by far the better half of the season.
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Is Tides generally recommended? I feel like I've heard it comes with an asterisk, but I realize now that I don't really remember what that was, or if I'm confusing it with something else.
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I don't know about any asterisks but I concur with the others in that the first two-thirds or so of the pre/early history season were stellar.
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The only criticisms I've heard are: 1) ads 2) sometimes sound effects, probably makes some people afraid it's for dummies.
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I haven’t listened to Tides in quite a while, but I remember the parts where he mixed in music were far too loud, and he had to boost his own volume to be heard, so it was just a noisy mess at the end of each episode.
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Appoda posted:Is Tides generally recommended? I feel like I've heard it comes with an asterisk, but I realize now that I don't really remember what that was, or if I'm confusing it with something else. Maybe you're confusing it with Hardcore history? Tides is pretty good.
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Tides is one of the few I'd recommend without any asterisks, ironically. It's consistently good going back to the original Fall of Rome podcast
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Yeah it's good. It's overproduced and the topics vary in interestingness but hardly unique in those.
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And a bad episode of tides is still better than average episodes of most other podcasts. This week's wasn't very good. I don't get why he brings in so many interviews about writing historical fiction.
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Interview episodes are usually my least favorite, with a few exceptions, but I'm guessing they partly work as a breather to help him have time to prepare the scripted episodes.
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Grevling posted:Interview episodes are usually my least favorite, with a few exceptions, but I'm guessing they partly work as a breather to help him have time to prepare the scripted episodes. I'll listen to the interviews with subject area experts all day (my favourite podcast is Byzantium and Friends after all) but this one was pretty irrelevant.
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His interviewers need to not be interviewed via "shouting at laptops from across the room". Ship out a $60 mic. It's cheaper than your editor trying to fix it.
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tracecomplete posted:His interviewers need to not be interviewed via "shouting at laptops from across the room". Every single podcast needs to record people locally and edit it together rather than recording the Zoom call. It sounds like rear end.
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I respect the way he highlights scholars in a way most podcasters don't instead of just summarizing their work, but as a listener the interview episodes definitely can feel pretty dry, and a bit repetitive when the same info finds its way into the narrative episodes.
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CommonShore posted:I don't get why he brings in so many interviews about writing historical fiction. i think it's just because it's literally what he personally does well maybe not exactly historical fiction, but he's all about the "create an imaginary representative individual and use that person's life and work to get into what life would be like for that kind of person in that era" style of historical writing.
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He's talked about wanting to write historical fiction sometime in the future too. And Warhammer 40K.
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Tides is good, probably my favorite history podcast of the last few years. Patrick is probably the best history Podcaster I've heard at "such and such happened all these years ago, here's what that can tell us about the world today" which I think is the part of history that a lot of people don't get. It's not all just names and dates! E: the ads are putrid though, I can't deny that. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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C-Euro posted:Tides is good, probably my favorite history podcast of the last few years. Patrick is probably the best history Podcaster I've heard at "such and such happened all these years ago, here's what that can tell us about the world today" which I think is the part of history that a lot of people don't get. It's not all just names and dates! I tweeted at him once just to ask him if he has talked to wondery about the gross true crime ads and the tweet had one view, so I know he saw it, but then he didn't reply.
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C-Euro posted:E: the ads are putrid though, I can't deny that. Yeah the Wondery ads are awful. And even off Wondery, podcast ads are generally awful. I used to listen to an Australian true crime podcast but completely gave up because all the ads were for dick pills, ahem, “ED medication”, and CBD oil products. But it raises the question of why the ads on every podcast are so universally awful! Ads on the radio have been a thing for what, almost a century at this point? Podcast ads are basically the same thing, so why have advertisers completely forgotten everything. Weird. Feels like I’ve spent more time listening to Mike Duncan talk about razors and mattresses in the past few years than I’ve talked to members of my extended family.
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