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That's a lot of infected  e: drat, sad show is sad 
Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Feb 11, 2023 |
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Feb 11, 2023 03:46
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Goddamn what a episode.
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Feb 11, 2023 04:06
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loving zombie show making me cry again.
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Feb 11, 2023 04:25
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Yes, this show is drat good.
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Feb 11, 2023 04:36
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I hate protect quests.
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Feb 11, 2023 04:37
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My wife balled her eyes out, cursed the show, then immediately got pissed off when she realized we'd have to wait until the 19th for the next episode. This show is going places.
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Feb 11, 2023 04:42
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Great episode. Episode 4 was a setup episode that absolutely paid off this week, which will make me look back on it a lot more kindly than I otherwise would have.
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Feb 11, 2023 04:50
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This show is so good holy poo poo. My heart is still racing through the credits.
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Feb 11, 2023 05:05
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The minute you see that sinkhole open up, why don’t you gtfo immediately
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Feb 11, 2023 05:20
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:The minute you see that sinkhole open up, why don’t you gtfo immediately
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Feb 11, 2023 05:21
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These people haven't seen infected in 15 years. They may have been overconfident.
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Feb 11, 2023 05:41
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i wasn't as cold towards bella ramsey as some folks were at the beginning of the series, but she also didn't grab me in the first couple of episodes. since episode 3 i've been liking her performance so much i wonder if the scripts for the first two episodes just weren't giving her the right material to work with
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Feb 11, 2023 05:41
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i wasn't as cold towards bella ramsey as some folks were at the beginning of the series, but she also didn't grab me in the first couple of episodes. since episode 3 i've been liking her performance so much i wonder if the scripts for the first two episodes just weren't giving her the right material to work with
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Feb 11, 2023 05:46
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As soon as I saw they cast the cutest kid possible for Sam... oh no.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:02
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Thundercracker posted:As soon as I saw they cast the cutest kid possible for Sam... oh no. The story Mazin tells on the podcast about finding him is really good. He took to twitter to find an actor that fit the role and still only had like five kids audition and one of them turned out to be excellent.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:13
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This is just Emotional Damage: The Show. The bits they show at the beginning (or in episode 3 basically the entire episode) showing the "before", whatever "before" serves the story, sets an emotional tone and then they just bludgeon you with it. Devastating. Bella Ramsey is absolutely electric.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:20
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Joel has a loving idiosyncratic definition of “sneak around the back” considering he decided to basically just full-tilt run in an arc at that sniper.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:31
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Tom Tucker posted:Bella Ramsey is absolutely electric. Agreed, just a really great performance, in these last two episodes in particular.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:47
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BlackIronHeart posted:Agreed, just a really great performance, in these last two episodes in particular. Still amazed that there were people saying the quiet part out loud about how a 14-year-old (or the actress portraying one, at any rate) wasn't hot enough. gently caress you guys, she's been great in the role and has solid chemistry with Pascal
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Feb 11, 2023 06:54
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The way she pulled the gun from her pocket instead of her backpack had me dying. Her face was so funny. Also, about how Joel has an rear end in a top hat voice. She's really good.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:54
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The potshot over her shoulder at the killdozer chasing her was viking AF.
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Feb 11, 2023 06:59
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Sam was really good, drat. The middle bit with Lady Leader (I only call her that because I can't remember her name offhand) was like.. okay. It did the legwork just fine of giving the 2-episode villain juuust enough motivation that makes juuuust enough sense along with understanding juuuust enough why the people follow her. That's the thinnest the show's been for me so far. Everything else was loving phenomenal though. Oh, I did get a chuckle especially considering people pointing out the ballistics and acoustic situation of firing a pistol in a small box.. then we have a small concrete room where at least half a dozen people are blasting off rifles and shotguns in a 40x40-ish space.
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Feb 11, 2023 07:20
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Yeah that was a very good episode, definitely my favorite so far and makes up for that bullshit 45 minute episode last week. Count me among the people that were lukewarm on Bella Ramsey but I'm fully bought in now. I was worried that her putting blood on the wound was going to heal it but thank god the show didn't go that route. Looking extremely forward to the next episode and the rest of the season.
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Feb 11, 2023 08:06
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also, i usually don't find zombie shows scary, but that infected little girl climbing through the window and loving pop and locking around the seats was horrifying and on reflection i've been enjoying this series, but man a second person killing themselves after losing the person closest to them is really loving bleak. i kind of hope they don't pull that card out again
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Feb 11, 2023 08:27
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the pascal resting bitch face scene was loving hilarious
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Feb 11, 2023 09:25
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I was a bit wary after the first two episodes, then episode three hooked me on the show, and I was totally on board with episode four and this one right up until the climactic sequence. What was a well-constructed, tense narrative then devolved into a ridiculous sequence of stupid cliches and tropes. Old guy sitting in a house in the dark who saw Joel moving his way but somehow doesn't hear him coming up the creaky stairs or try in any serious way to defend himself. Joel's gun jams until just the right moment to hit the driver of the truck. No infected in the tunnels they use, but they're somehow completely filling other tunnels and digging up through the earth. Then they pop up at the most convenient moment, interrupting the main antagonist just as she's about to kill a protagonist. Then a literal boss zombie appears and heads right for the main antagonist. Then in the mayhem all the main characters somehow survive and manage to reunite. Then right when the antagonist is again about to kill them, yet another zombie kills her. I can't remember the last time I encountered such a drop in quality between the buildup of a narrative and its climax. It makes me a lot less willing now to trust that the show runners know what they're doing for the rest of the season.
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Feb 11, 2023 10:51
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There is always one isn't there?
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Feb 11, 2023 11:17
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You're not entirely wrong, but there are justifications for some of what you found problematic. The old man was pretty clearly in 'suicide by cop' mode and had no interest in stopping Joel once he got close enough. The group of infected — all clickers — were attracted to the area because they heard/felt the explosion. The bloater went straight for the main threat it found, which was the guy emptying a rifle directly into its face who happened to be trying to protect the main antagonist.
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Feb 11, 2023 11:24
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Toaster Beef posted:You're not entirely wrong, but there are justifications for some of what you found problematic. The old man was pretty clearly in 'suicide by cop' mode and had no interest in stopping Joel once he got close enough. The group of infected — all clickers — were attracted to the area because they heard/felt the explosion. The bloater went straight for the main threat it found, which was the guy emptying a rifle directly into its face who happened to be trying to protect the main antagonist. The old man didn't even bother turning to the door, despite obviously being able to see and hear Joel coming. That makes no sense. I'm sure his orders weren't to pin them down and then literally sit there awaiting his death. Would it have been so hard for him to have a shootout with Joel as he tries to enter the house? Yes, I picked up that the infected were attracted to the explosion, but having them suddenly tunnel up through the earth like a scene from Tremors was ridiculous. And it wasn't like the group of them was quiet in the tunnels. The bloater emerged into a crowd of people shooting wildly in every direction, including at it. It was just dumb movie logic for it to cut through the crowd to kill Kathleen's bodyguard. I like a lot about the show (including the ending scenes after the climax), and I'm definitely invested in the story now, but I'm just baffled that people thought that sequence was anything other than silly. It's like it was from a completely different show from the pared-down, incredibly tense shootout in the laundromat from last episode. I actually laughed out loud in this episode when after all the other cliches Kathleen corners them as they try to get away only for a zombie perched right behind her to jump on and kill her as she turns around--the ultimate B-movie action scene cliche.
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Feb 11, 2023 12:16
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They should've hired me to rewrite the action scenes.
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Feb 11, 2023 12:37
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Kathleen's crew were a bunch of amateurs rather than hardened killers. And I'm really glad they removed that invulnerable Humvee that stalks Joel and Ellie through the entire section of the game, that thing was silly, it behaved more like a demon powered by blood sacrifices.
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Feb 11, 2023 13:30
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MeinPanzer posted:The old man didn't even bother turning to the door, despite obviously being able to see and hear Joel coming. That makes no sense. I'm sure his orders weren't to pin them down and then literally sit there awaiting his death. Would it have been so hard for him to have a shootout with Joel as he tries to enter the house? I'm just focusing on this one because we clearly have a difference of opinion about how the other stuff gets interpreted but this was specifically talked about in the podcast. The old man has absolutely no interest in surviving. He has no intent to actually fight Joel because he's perfectly okay with Joel killing him. He's done. He's seen too much and he wants out. It's kind of funny to me that you're complaining about the rest of the scene being a bunch of cliches while clamoring for this one particular moment to have more cliches.
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Feb 11, 2023 14:22
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Toaster Beef posted:You're not entirely wrong, but there are justifications for some of what you found problematic. The old man was pretty clearly in 'suicide by cop' mode and had no interest in stopping Joel once he got close enough. The group of infected — all clickers — were attracted to the area because they heard/felt the explosion. The bloater went straight for the main threat it found, which was the guy emptying a rifle directly into its face who happened to be trying to protect the main antagonist. Additionally, Kathleen's death by infected was perfectly set up because she's obsessed with revenge to the point of ignoring both her own personal safety and the entire group's. It's only a cliché if it happens out of nowhere, while here it's the culmination of a theme that ran across two episodes.
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Feb 11, 2023 14:27
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Toaster Beef posted:I'm just focusing on this one because we clearly have a difference of opinion about how the other stuff gets interpreted but this was specifically talked about in the podcast. The old man has absolutely no interest in surviving. He has no intent to actually fight Joel because he's perfectly okay with Joel killing him. He's done. He's seen too much and he wants out. That's not made evident from the scene, though it's very convenient for the narrative, I guess. If that was the intention of the show runners, I don't think it translated very well. quote:It's kind of funny to me that you're complaining about the rest of the scene being a bunch of cliches while clamoring for this one particular moment to have more cliches. The cliche of... a sniper shooting at a bunch of people actually trying to defend himself when one of those people runs up and tries to kill him? I think my problem might be that I hoped the show would make its action scenes as thoughtful and nuanced as the rest of its drama. This just came across as a mishmash of hamfisted and trite video game and cinematic elements. quote:Additionally, Kathleen's death by infected was perfectly set up because she's obsessed with revenge to the point of ignoring both her own personal safety and the entire group's. It's only a cliché if it happens out of nowhere, while here it's the culmination of a theme that ran across two episodes. I'm not critical of her dying, just the incredibly cliched way in which they had it happen.
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Feb 11, 2023 14:33
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I liked the episode but I did  at the dumbest sniper in the world who had nothing and no one there to stop his target from walking up behind him.
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Feb 11, 2023 14:40
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The bloater didn't go right for Kathleen, it went for Pierce, because Pierce stepped up and put a full mag of accurate fire into its head. Everyone else was just wildly spraying. Thought the old man's lack of caring about his own death was extremely obvious because of the way he acts when Joel enters the room, the way he looks in general, the radio message about "just hold them at little longer", and the way he doesn't really have any plan to defend against someone doing what Joel did. It's all congruent if you pay attention to what the story is trying to say instead of inserting your own assumptions. The whole scene where he gives Joel that look and Joel begs him not to make him shoot him is what that's all about.
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Feb 11, 2023 14:52
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I’m guessing the ogre zombie was a final boss in the game?
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Feb 11, 2023 15:26
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MeinPanzer posted:The cliche of... a sniper shooting at a bunch of people actually trying to defend himself when one of those people runs up and tries to kill him? I imagine you were expecting the same exact thing I was expecting, which was likely the same thing just about everybody was expecting in that moment, which was a firefight between Joel and the sniper (or a lookout, etc.). Maybe cliche's not the best word for it, but the show subverted what we were expecting (trope, cliche, whatever) by making it pretty clear the sniper had absolutely no interest in defending himself. Jarmak posted:The bloater didn't go right for Kathleen, it went for Pierce, because Pierce stepped up and put a full mag of accurate fire into its head. Everyone else was just wildly spraying. Yeah, all of this. Toaster Beef fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Feb 11, 2023 |
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Feb 11, 2023 15:27
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:I’m guessing the ogre zombie was a final boss in the game? More like a miniboss that turns up occasionally. The game doesn't really have bosses.
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Feb 11, 2023 15:27
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I found it weird that the regular zombies are hungry and tend to try and eat people but the big zombie seemed out for blood more than anything. I wonder if the fungus covered its mouth
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